Does anyone have Cliff Matthews pro day results?

[Slikmojet]

I'm having a hard time finding them, he reminds me a bit of Mo Lewis.

[Beerfish]

"DE Cliff Matthews drew a lot of scouts – the Lions' Jim Schwartz was the only head coach in Columbia – for his position drills. The scouts also had Matthews run routes and catch passes at tight end, a position he played in high school.
Let's just say Matthews likely will be sticking with defense."

"DE Cliff Matthews had perhaps the best workout of all of the team's pro prospects. Matthews improved on all of his athletic testing numbers from the Scouting Combine and generally showed an eagerness to do whatever he could to improve his draft stock. He worked out as an end, an outside linebacker and even as a tight end. And he did every drill with 100 percent effort. Matthews appears to be a solid mid-round pick next month."

[Slikmojet]

Yeah, but where are the times? He ran a 4.8 at the combine, not great, I want to know what he ran in his pro day. Not a big fan of the 40 as a determining factor, but supposedly he ran much better, how much better?

[jamesangleton]

Originally Posted by Slikmojet

Yeah, but where are the times? He ran a 4.8 at the combine, not great, I want to know what he ran in his pro day. Not a big fan of the 40 as a determining factor, but supposedly he ran much better, how much better?

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2011&genpos=DE

Here ya go. His Pro-day 40 time was 4.78

[Slikmojet]

Originally Posted by jamesangleton

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2011&genpos=DE

Here ya go. His Pro-day 40 time was 4.78

Thanks, those are OK numbers for a guy that size, anything better would be great, remember we're not talking about a 6.2 220 pound LB, he's really a DE. He's supposed to be a bit stiff, but I don't care the guy hustles and is a good football player. Not a bad pick around the 5th round.

[jetsfan1983]

If you ever find yourself saying a player can be a decent backup, then the truly honest opinion is that he's garbage and probably won't be in the league for long.

And that's exactly where I stand on him.

[Slikmojet]

Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

If you ever find yourself saying a player can be a decent backup, then the truly honest opinion is that he's garbage and probably won't be in the league for long.

And that's exactly where I stand on him.

The league is littered with guys that and so is the hall of fame. Mike DeVito is a perfect example, that guy was not even supposed to be drafted. Same with Woodhead who became the Pats starter and a real weapon I might add.

[Much ado about Nothing]

Originally Posted by jetsfan1983

If you ever find yourself saying a player can be a decent backup, then the truly honest opinion is that he's garbage and probably won't be in the league for long.

And that's exactly where I stand on him.

Sadly I have to +1 this. He's one of my favorite college players and an easy guy to root for, but it'd be more of a pleasant surprise if he made an impact in the league. He's not even the kind of guy who can go the Mark Anderson route.

OTOH, Sam Acho is the kind of guy who can come in, be a pass rusher for a year and thrive, and then float around as a backup for a while.

[Slikmojet]

Originally Posted by Much ado about Nothing

Sadly I have to +1 this. He's one of my favorite college players and an easy guy to root for, but it'd be more of a pleasant surprise if he made an impact in the league. He's not even the kind of guy who can go the Mark Anderson route.

OTOH, Sam Acho is the kind of guy who can come in, be a pass rusher for a year and thrive, and then float around as a backup for a while.

I really like Acho, I think he might be better than just a backup. I would love him in the 3rd.

[Kentucky Jet]

Originally Posted by Slikmojet

I really like Acho, I think he might be better than just a backup. I would love him in the 3rd.

SLIK: I think Wilson is a far superior prospect and here is why:

Inside Linebacker | Illinois | JR Martez Wilson
Height: 6-3¾ | Weight: 250 | 40-Time: 4.49

Official Bio

Strengths:
• Ideal height and bulk with long arms and rangy frame
• Explosive athlete with top speed, acceleration, burst
• Is active with excellent range and excels in pursuit
• Terrific blitzer who can bend off edge and run the arc
• Pretty physical and does not shy away from contact
• A powerful hitter and tackler who can lay the lumber
• Is strong with a rocked-up physique and potent hands
• Should offer both positional and schematic versatility
• A hard worker and leader respected by teammates
• Still has considerable untapped potential to develop

Weaknesses:
• Displays rather questionable instincts and awareness
• Can be too aggressive at times and miss some tackles
• Lacks top-notch agility and change of direction skills
• Hips are not fluid and struggles mightily in coverage
• Has trouble when forced to take on and shed blockers
• Some off-the-field incidents that must be checked out
• Battled injuries so health and durability are concerns

Notes:
Essentially a two-year starter for the Fighting Illini and also served as a team captain --- Named 2nd Team All-Big Ten in 2010 --- Was a highly touted prep recruit with scholarship offers from all the big-time programs --- Served a one game suspension in 2008 for a violation of team rules --- Underwent surgery for stab wounds sustained while helping a teammate during a bar fight in December of 2008 --- Suffered a neck injury (herniated disc) in 2009 opener and missed remainder of the season --- Overcame a rough upbringing where he never had a stable home --- Part of same graduating class at Simeon High School in Chicago as NBA star Derrick Rose of the Bulls --- Could project to either outside or inside linebacker at the next level and played both during time in Champaign --- Best fit might ultimately come as a pass rusher in an odd front --- A very intriguing prospect with a rare blend of size and speed --- A better athlete than football player who doesn't always perform up to impressive workout numbers but upside is undeniable.


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Career Statistics
Year GP TKL TFL SACK PBU INT
2007 13 29 3.0 2.0 1 0
2008 11 73 5.5 3.0 3 0
2009 1 9 0.0 0.0 0 0
2010 13 112 11.5 4.0 4 1
Totals 38 223 20.0 9.0 8 1

If we can not get Wilkerson, Wilson will be a JET IMHO!

[Slikmojet]

Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet

SLIK: I think Wilson is a far superior prospect and here is why:

Inside Linebacker | Illinois | JR Martez Wilson




Height: 6-3¾ | Weight: 250 | 40-Time: 4.49

Official Bio

Strengths:
• Ideal height and bulk with long arms and rangy frame
• Explosive athlete with top speed, acceleration, burst
• Is active with excellent range and excels in pursuit
• Terrific blitzer who can bend off edge and run the arc
• Pretty physical and does not shy away from contact
• A powerful hitter and tackler who can lay the lumber
• Is strong with a rocked-up physique and potent hands
• Should offer both positional and schematic versatility
• A hard worker and leader respected by teammates
• Still has considerable untapped potential to develop

Weaknesses:
• Displays rather questionable instincts and awareness
• Can be too aggressive at times and miss some tackles
• Lacks top-notch agility and change of direction skills
• Hips are not fluid and struggles mightily in coverage
• Has trouble when forced to take on and shed blockers
• Some off-the-field incidents that must be checked out
• Battled injuries so health and durability are concerns

Notes:
Essentially a two-year starter for the Fighting Illini and also served as a team captain --- Named 2nd Team All-Big Ten in 2010 --- Was a highly touted prep recruit with scholarship offers from all the big-time programs --- Served a one game suspension in 2008 for a violation of team rules --- Underwent surgery for stab wounds sustained while helping a teammate during a bar fight in December of 2008 --- Suffered a neck injury (herniated disc) in 2009 opener and missed remainder of the season --- Overcame a rough upbringing where he never had a stable home --- Part of same graduating class at Simeon High School in Chicago as NBA star Derrick Rose of the Bulls --- Could project to either outside or inside linebacker at the next level and played both during time in Champaign --- Best fit might ultimately come as a pass rusher in an odd front --- A very intriguing prospect with a rare blend of size and speed --- A better athlete than football player who doesn't always perform up to impressive workout numbers but upside is undeniable.


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Career Statistics
Year GP TKL TFL SACK PBU INT
2007 13 29 3.0 2.0 1 0
2008 11 73 5.5 3.0 3 0
2009 1 9 0.0 0.0 0 0
2010 13 112 11.5 4.0 4 1
Totals 38 223 20.0 9.0 8 1

If we can not get Wilkerson, Wilson will be a JET IMHO!

Yeah KJ, but Wilson is a borderline first round talent while Acho is seen more as a third round value. I'm thinking Acho if we pass on OLB with the 30th.