Something VERY Interesting I heard on Sirius about CALLY....

aagarcia · 12-29-2011, 05:32 PM

Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved.
That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??

darkvarg · 12-29-2011, 05:40 PM

uhh no.

Kentucky Jet · 12-29-2011, 05:41 PM

[QUOTE=aagarcia;4298563]Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved.
That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??[/QUOTE]

I can verify that Gannon said it. I heard it too. No way I want Cally as our OC.

JetsFanatic · 12-29-2011, 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=Kentucky Jet;4298580]I can verify that Gannon said it. I heard it too. No way I want Cally as our OC.[/QUOTE]

Very informed opinion. So I guess if he is named we will have a thousand "Fire Callahan" threads.

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 12-29-2011, 05:53 PM

You would think there was a nationwide competent OC shortage out there.

IM3 · 12-29-2011, 05:53 PM

God no

We need an entire overhaul of the offense, an offense that features attacking the opponent's weakness, with different gameplans depending on who we are facing, it seems that all our skill players have the same stats no matter who we play, when was the last time we attacked a matchup weakness for the other team, when was our last 125 yard receiver? our last 350 yard passer?, guys put up those numbers every freaking week.

MDL_JET · 12-29-2011, 05:54 PM

never did. and this just reassures me.

rextilleon · 12-29-2011, 05:57 PM

Cally would be a disaster.

JB1089 · 12-29-2011, 06:01 PM

That's exactly what Rex wants.

Vin · 12-29-2011, 06:03 PM

[QUOTE=JB1089;4298599]That's exactly what Rex wants.[/QUOTE]

A Disaster?

jetsfan1983 · 12-29-2011, 06:03 PM

It's absolutely correct... Trestman ran the passing offense even when Callahan had full control. Sometimes I think people have no memory or just don't pay attention to that stuff

C Mart · 12-29-2011, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=aagarcia;4298563]Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved.
That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=C Mart;4298206]Callahan's meticulous nature was not the lone factor in Al Davis's decision to hire him to replace Gruden. There were results behind the detail. In four years as Gruden's assistant -- as an offensive coordinator, an offensive line coach and a tight ends coach -- [B]Callahan had called the running plays every season.[/B]

[URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/10/sports/pro-football-a-quiet-man-now-coaches-the-raiders.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm[/URL]

Not sure if "called" is the correct word..Perhaps developed? Similar to his role now with the Jets..

Callahan, who is the Jets' run game coordinator, also holds the title of assistant head coach.

[URL]http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/02/jets_deny_titans_request_to_in.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

[URL]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4298206[/URL]

pcola · 12-29-2011, 06:19 PM

Callahan's o ly job was the offensive line and our tackles are probably the worst in the league. I know I'll probably have ten responses that point out D'Brick is a pro bowler but he was getting beat almost as badly as Hunter.

Magnus · 12-29-2011, 06:44 PM

get ready for Hacket 2.0

1st down run 80%
If 2nd and long run 99%
3rd down and short run 95%

You thought Schotty was bad? :rolleyes:

NYJ37/12 · 12-29-2011, 06:47 PM

[QUOTE=aagarcia;4298563]Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved.
That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??[/QUOTE]

If that's the case, NOOOOOOOOO

shuler82 · 12-29-2011, 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=Magnus;4298634]get ready for Hacket 2.0

1st down run 80%
If 2nd and long run 99%
3rd down and short run 95%

You thought Schotty was bad? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

with the amount of complaining you do about Sanchez i would think that you'd consider that a good thing

WestCoastOffensive · 12-29-2011, 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=IM3;4298589]God no

We need an entire overhaul of the offense, an offense that features attacking the opponent's weakness, with different gameplans depending on who we are facing, it seems that all our skill players have the same stats no matter who we play, when was the last time we attacked a matchup weakness for the other team, when was our last 125 yard receiver? our last 350 yard passer?, guys put up those numbers every freaking week.[/QUOTE]

We have success with the same boring formula. An off year from an incredible 2009 and a solid 2010. RUn, Defense, Specials, balance, try to keep it low scoring game by ball control...Parcells, Weiss, Henning, Hackett, Heimerdinger, Schottsky. Explosive plays just give the ball back to the opponent faster. :D It seems our head coaches have been yelling for explosive plays for decades. :nono:

Shall I go on? We will NEVER leave this formula; Carroll tried explicitly to go West Coast and Boomer Eisaison complained to the GM! "WE"RE A SMASHMOUTH TEAM" look it up.

Ike, better pray for a Knicks championship. :yes:

Magnus · 12-29-2011, 06:52 PM

[QUOTE=shuler82;4298637]with the amount of complaining you do about Sanchez i would think that you'd consider that a good thing[/QUOTE]

Seriously it was un****ing believable. If it was 2nd and long he would run it up the gut 99.9% of the time. It was amazing if you really think about it. I liked Chad MUCH more than Sanchez so it was infuriating to say the least. Rex wants a Hackett system to implement his stupid ground and pound and lets hide the QB we are paying a fortune to run the ball.

The Nature Boy · 12-29-2011, 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=aagarcia;4298563]Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved.
That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??[/QUOTE]

Yes.

Seriously, you all act like running an NFL offense is like running a HS offense.

There is not ONE coordinator in the league that does it all. NOT ONE. What Gannon says is mostly true although Callahan is well-versed in the passing game too. He chooses NOT to do it because he knows he can't do it all. If he were hired, he would pass that portion off to a guy he trusted but it would be done under his direction. A guy like Jay Norvell (worked under Tom Moore) would probably be hired to coordinate the pass game.

DDNYjets · 12-29-2011, 06:57 PM

I dont even want him on the staff, let alone OC.

12-29-2011, 05:32 PM	#1
aagarcia Practice Squad Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 399	Something VERY Interesting I heard on Sirius about CALLY.... Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved. That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??

12-29-2011, 05:40 PM	#2
darkvarg Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 440	uhh no.

12-29-2011, 05:41 PM	#3
Kentucky Jet A NY JETS fan! Go Jets! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ormond Beach, Florida Posts: 10,890	[QUOTE=aagarcia;4298563]Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved. That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??[/QUOTE] I can verify that Gannon said it. I heard it too. No way I want Cally as our OC.

12-29-2011, 05:44 PM	#4
JetsFanatic When you listen to the fans, you sit with the fans! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,941	[QUOTE=Kentucky Jet;4298580]I can verify that Gannon said it. I heard it too. No way I want Cally as our OC.[/QUOTE] Very informed opinion. So I guess if he is named we will have a thousand "Fire Callahan" threads.

12-29-2011, 05:53 PM	#5
Vinny Testaverde's Niece Post Count Not Affected By Demise of Hotties Forum All League Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 4,184	You would think there was a nationwide competent OC shortage out there.

12-29-2011, 05:53 PM	#6
IM3 SMH Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 22,491	God no We need an entire overhaul of the offense, an offense that features attacking the opponent's weakness, with different gameplans depending on who we are facing, it seems that all our skill players have the same stats no matter who we play, when was the last time we attacked a matchup weakness for the other team, when was our last 125 yard receiver? our last 350 yard passer?, guys put up those numbers every freaking week.

12-29-2011, 05:54 PM	#7
MDL_JET All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,634	never did. and this just reassures me.

12-29-2011, 05:57 PM	#8
rextilleon Is Itzdik the Man? All League Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,653	Cally would be a disaster.

12-29-2011, 06:01 PM	#9
JB1089 Now is the time... All Pro Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5,712	That's exactly what Rex wants.

12-29-2011, 06:03 PM	#10
Vin RE-SIGN ME, DAMMIT!!! All Pro Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 8,135	[QUOTE=JB1089;4298599]That's exactly what Rex wants.[/QUOTE] A Disaster?

12-29-2011, 06:03 PM	#11
jetsfan1983 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,835	It's absolutely correct... Trestman ran the passing offense even when Callahan had full control. Sometimes I think people have no memory or just don't pay attention to that stuff

12-29-2011, 06:06 PM	#12
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	[QUOTE=aagarcia;4298563]Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved. That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=C Mart;4298206]Callahan's meticulous nature was not the lone factor in Al Davis's decision to hire him to replace Gruden. There were results behind the detail. In four years as Gruden's assistant -- as an offensive coordinator, an offensive line coach and a tight ends coach -- [B]Callahan had called the running plays every season.[/B] [URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/10/sports/pro-football-a-quiet-man-now-coaches-the-raiders.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm[/URL] Not sure if "called" is the correct word..Perhaps developed? Similar to his role now with the Jets.. Callahan, who is the Jets' run game coordinator, also holds the title of assistant head coach. [URL]http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2011/02/jets_deny_titans_request_to_in.html[/URL][/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=4298206[/URL]

12-29-2011, 06:19 PM	#13
pcola All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 2,840	Callahan's o ly job was the offensive line and our tackles are probably the worst in the league. I know I'll probably have ten responses that point out D'Brick is a pro bowler but he was getting beat almost as badly as Hunter.

12-29-2011, 06:44 PM	#14
Magnus Veteran Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,757	get ready for Hacket 2.0 1st down run 80% If 2nd and long run 99% 3rd down and short run 95% You thought Schotty was bad? :rolleyes:

12-29-2011, 06:47 PM	#15
NYJ37/12 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,665	[QUOTE=aagarcia;4298563]Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved. That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??[/QUOTE] If that's the case, NOOOOOOOOO

12-29-2011, 06:48 PM	#16
shuler82 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: hoboken Posts: 5,672	[QUOTE=Magnus;4298634]get ready for Hacket 2.0 1st down run 80% If 2nd and long run 99% 3rd down and short run 95% You thought Schotty was bad? :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] with the amount of complaining you do about Sanchez i would think that you'd consider that a good thing

12-29-2011, 06:52 PM	#17
WestCoastOffensive Lying to the Smithsonian Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SF via Strong Island Posts: 26,688	[QUOTE=IM3;4298589]God no We need an entire overhaul of the offense, an offense that features attacking the opponent's weakness, with different gameplans depending on who we are facing, it seems that all our skill players have the same stats no matter who we play, when was the last time we attacked a matchup weakness for the other team, when was our last 125 yard receiver? our last 350 yard passer?, guys put up those numbers every freaking week.[/QUOTE] We have success with the same boring formula. An off year from an incredible 2009 and a solid 2010. RUn, Defense, Specials, balance, try to keep it low scoring game by ball control...Parcells, Weiss, Henning, Hackett, Heimerdinger, Schottsky. Explosive plays just give the ball back to the opponent faster. :D It seems our head coaches have been yelling for explosive plays for decades. :nono: Shall I go on? We will NEVER leave this formula; Carroll tried explicitly to go West Coast and Boomer Eisaison complained to the GM! "WE"RE A SMASHMOUTH TEAM" look it up. Ike, better pray for a Knicks championship. :yes:

12-29-2011, 06:55 PM	#19
The Nature Boy ready for the playoffs Practice Squad Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 263	[QUOTE=aagarcia;4298563]Gannon was talking and said that Gruden was the one with all the passing schemes and just relied on Cally for blocking and running schemes. :eek: That he was never really involved in what went on with the passing game. That when Cally became head coach he still wasn't involved. That being said, do you still want Callahan as new OC??[/QUOTE] Yes. Seriously, you all act like running an NFL offense is like running a HS offense. There is not ONE coordinator in the league that does it all. NOT ONE. What Gannon says is mostly true although Callahan is well-versed in the passing game too. He chooses NOT to do it because he knows he can't do it all. If he were hired, he would pass that portion off to a guy he trusted but it would be done under his direction. A guy like Jay Norvell (worked under Tom Moore) would probably be hired to coordinate the pass game.

12-29-2011, 06:57 PM	#20
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,307	I dont even want him on the staff, let alone OC.