Terrible End of 1st Half Coaching

jpoppy7 · 08-27-2012, 03:02 PM

One of the things that frustrated me the most last night was the end of the first half. Jets got the ball with about 1:15 left at their own 25.

In a regular season game, would hope the offense would try to do something in the 2 minute drill, but I somewhat understand if they don't. But in a preseason game, I don't understand how you can't at least use that opportunity to run your 2 minute drill in a real game. Unless the Jets offense is so confident that they have figured out everything (while not scoring a TD) and have no need to practice their two minute drill. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

Trades · 08-27-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jpoppy7

One of the things that frustrated me the most last night was the end of the first half. Jets got the ball with about 1:15 left at their own 25.

In a regular season game, would hope the offense would try to do something in the 2 minute drill, but I somewhat understand if they don't. But in a preseason game, I don't understand how you can't at least use that opportunity to run your 2 minute drill in a real game. Unless the Jets offense is so confident that they have figured out everything (while not scoring a TD) and have no need to practice their two minute drill. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

Maybe they realized that the faster they can get out of there without getting more players injured the better.

JETFAN1 · 08-27-2012, 03:11 PM

From nyjets.com:

On the final offensive drive of the first half and why the team did not use the two-minute offense…

We were going to. It was kind of an iffy situation. We knew we were bringing out the ones again. At that time, we were thinking about using it depending on where that [first] play went. If it went for a first down, we were going to keep the drive going and use our timeouts. Then we decided to go into the half. We were getting the ball to start the half. That’s what we told our guys, too.

I guess I get it..

LockeJET · 08-27-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JETFAN1

From nyjets.com:

On the final offensive drive of the first half and why the team did not use the two-minute offense…

We were going to. It was kind of an iffy situation. We knew we were bringing out the ones again. At that time, we were thinking about using it depending on where that [first] play went. If it went for a first down, we were going to keep the drive going and use our timeouts. Then we decided to go into the half. We were getting the ball to start the half. That’s what we told our guys, too.

I guess I get it..

Didnt they run on first down? If this is true about getting a first down then why not pass instead and be a biit more agressive. It's only preseason I know but scoring a TD at some point would be good for their psyche.

JETFAN1 · 08-27-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LockeJET

Didnt they run on first down? If this is true about getting a first down then why not pass instead and be a biit more agressive. It's only preseason I know but scoring a TD at some point would be good for their psyche.

I don't recall if it was a run but you have a point. It would have slowed down the media insanity.

southparkcpa · 08-27-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jpoppy7

One of the things that frustrated me the most last night was the end of the first half. Jets got the ball with about 1:15 left at their own 25.

In a regular season game, would hope the offense would try to do something in the 2 minute drill, but I somewhat understand if they don't. But in a preseason game, I don't understand how you can't at least use that opportunity to run your 2 minute drill in a real game. Unless the Jets offense is so confident that they have figured out everything (while not scoring a TD) and have no need to practice their two minute drill. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

injury risk......

C Mart · 08-27-2012, 03:21 PM

I thought this summed it up...

chris moore ‏@mooretosay
Jets are embarrassing. Home game, no tds yet in preseason, and they don't even try. DON'T EVEN TRY. FOR GOD'S SAKE, TRY.

You dont run out the clock from 1:22 down 10-9 in pre season football. Need to practice running out the clock?

JetsCrazey · 08-27-2012, 03:26 PM

I think injuries had something to do with it. Our WRs and TEs group is really banged up as it is, no need to risk further injury in a meaningless 2 minute drill

Jordy · 08-27-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LockeJET

Didnt they run on first down? If this is true about getting a first down then why not pass instead and be a biit more agressive. It's only preseason I know but scoring a TD at some point would be good for their psyche.

Yes they did. That explanation given was total BS.

Ray Ray19 · 08-27-2012, 03:30 PM

Meh, I can see both sides of argument

When Baker went down, Jets were basically left with zero TE's, they were probably shell shocked from the injuries, and didn't want to risk it.

You could argue that the Jets would have probably been in with at least 3 WR sets, true, but you need a TE to balance that, and the Jets were still already playing with a limited WR unit with both Holmes and Kerley on a limited pitch count. The 2 minute offense plays fast, and WR's run a lot, from running their route, and then back to the huddle, I thought that was the reason they checked in.

Otherwise, yeah, you want to practice the drill in that scenario.

Jordy · 08-27-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsCrazey

I think injuries had something to do with it. Our WRs and TEs group is really banged up as it is, no need to risk further injury in a meaningless 2 minute drill

Had that been the team's explanation, then I wouldn't have found fault with their decision.

But don't insult the fans by saying that "if we would have gotten a first down on the first play, then we would have considered using our timeouts." Not when that 1st play is a run by Shonn Greene. Sorry, don't buy it.

C Mart · 08-27-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsCrazey

I think injuries had something to do with it. Our WRs and TEs group is really banged up as it is, no need to risk further injury in a meaningless 2 minute drill

They had 3 TEs and 6-7+ WRs still on the sideline...I don't think there is such a thing as a meaningless 2 minute drill unless your QB is Brady, Manning, Brees

norm428 · 08-27-2012, 03:42 PM

Plenty of time on the clock, 3 TO's remaining. No TD"s all preseason. Charging regular season prices for a preseason game. Now they're hiding their 2 minute drill for fear that Buffalo may see something? Disgusting.

LotteryPick6 · 08-27-2012, 03:46 PM

I see both sides of the argument. Not gonna go crazy since its preseason.

LotteryPick6 · 08-27-2012, 03:47 PM

You guys don't understand. We want to be "vanilla" all preseason. Rex said it. Sparano said it. Collinsworth said it. We are clearly holding back our dangerous weapons.

Also worth noting I don't believe anything I just wrote

MagroCrag · 08-27-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JetsCrazey

I think injuries had something to do with it. Our WRs and TEs group is really banged up as it is, no need to risk further injury in a meaningless 2 minute drill

This. It was a bit frustrating to watch as a fan, but why risk it. We'd already lost Keller, Harris, and Baker at that point.

Jordy · 08-27-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MagroCrag

This. It was a bit frustrating to watch as a fan, but why risk it. We'd already lost Keller, Harris, and Baker at that point.

So why did the "official" comment from the team not mention that and instead come up with an explanation that did nothing but insult the intelligence of fans?

norm428 · 08-27-2012, 04:22 PM

This was supposed to be the final tuneup before the regular season. You're down with a chance to take a half time lead, your offense has finally shown signs that it has a pulse, and you don't even try the 2 minute offense? Pathetic.

southside · 08-27-2012, 04:24 PM

What was just as terrible was letting the play clock run all the way down from that first down run play and then attempting to throw the ball on the next play. I won't defense that series. That was just stupid. In the least, we can hope that they are using the preseason to tune up some questionable coaching as well.

bitonti · 08-27-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trades

Maybe they realized that the faster they can get out of there without getting more players injured the better.

thank you sir for being the voice of reason

08-27-2012, 03:02 PM	#1
jpoppy7 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,852	Terrible End of 1st Half Coaching One of the things that frustrated me the most last night was the end of the first half. Jets got the ball with about 1:15 left at their own 25. In a regular season game, would hope the offense would try to do something in the 2 minute drill, but I somewhat understand if they don't. But in a preseason game, I don't understand how you can't at least use that opportunity to run your 2 minute drill in a real game. Unless the Jets offense is so confident that they have figured out everything (while not scoring a TD) and have no need to practice their two minute drill. Makes absolutely no sense to me.

08-27-2012, 03:11 PM	#3
JETFAN1 Bored Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,782	From nyjets.com: On the final offensive drive of the first half and why the team did not use the two-minute offense… We were going to. It was kind of an iffy situation. We knew we were bringing out the ones again. At that time, we were thinking about using it depending on where that [first] play went. If it went for a first down, we were going to keep the drive going and use our timeouts. Then we decided to go into the half. We were getting the ball to start the half. That’s what we told our guys, too. I guess I get it..

08-27-2012, 03:21 PM	#7
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	I thought this summed it up... chris moore ‏@mooretosay Jets are embarrassing. Home game, no tds yet in preseason, and they don't even try. DON'T EVEN TRY. FOR GOD'S SAKE, TRY. You dont run out the clock from 1:22 down 10-9 in pre season football. Need to practice running out the clock?

08-27-2012, 03:26 PM	#8
JetsCrazey All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,665	I think injuries had something to do with it. Our WRs and TEs group is really banged up as it is, no need to risk further injury in a meaningless 2 minute drill

08-27-2012, 03:30 PM	#10
Ray Ray19 Not a SOJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,840	Meh, I can see both sides of argument When Baker went down, Jets were basically left with zero TE's, they were probably shell shocked from the injuries, and didn't want to risk it. You could argue that the Jets would have probably been in with at least 3 WR sets, true, but you need a TE to balance that, and the Jets were still already playing with a limited WR unit with both Holmes and Kerley on a limited pitch count. The 2 minute offense plays fast, and WR's run a lot, from running their route, and then back to the huddle, I thought that was the reason they checked in. Otherwise, yeah, you want to practice the drill in that scenario.

08-27-2012, 03:42 PM	#13
norm428 The "Butt-er" End! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hauppauge, New York Posts: 1,509	Plenty of time on the clock, 3 TO's remaining. No TD"s all preseason. Charging regular season prices for a preseason game. Now they're hiding their 2 minute drill for fear that Buffalo may see something? Disgusting.

08-27-2012, 03:46 PM	#14
LotteryPick6 Practice Squad Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 485	I see both sides of the argument. Not gonna go crazy since its preseason.

08-27-2012, 03:47 PM	#15
LotteryPick6 Practice Squad Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 485	You guys don't understand. We want to be "vanilla" all preseason. Rex said it. Sparano said it. Collinsworth said it. We are clearly holding back our dangerous weapons. Also worth noting I don't believe anything I just wrote

08-27-2012, 04:22 PM	#18
norm428 The "Butt-er" End! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hauppauge, New York Posts: 1,509	This was supposed to be the final tuneup before the regular season. You're down with a chance to take a half time lead, your offense has finally shown signs that it has a pulse, and you don't even try the 2 minute offense? Pathetic.

08-27-2012, 04:24 PM	#19
southside Forever Awesome All Pro Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,899	What was just as terrible was letting the play clock run all the way down from that first down run play and then attempting to throw the ball on the next play. I won't defense that series. That was just stupid. In the least, we can hope that they are using the preseason to tune up some questionable coaching as well.