Anyone else hate that REX is still here

johnnysd · 03-07-2013, 01:16 PM

This is not a Rex bashing thread.

But you can already see that Idzik and Rex are pretty far apart on some of the major issues including Revis, and I just get a sick feeling because I think our rebuilding could be compromised because of it.

Woody was wrong to force Rex to stay. Idzik needs an open charter to rebuild the team, not fight continuously with a lame duck coach who will continue to want to keep washed up veterans and only draft defense.

It just really bothers me. Rex should be gone. Not after this season when the the Jets suck, likely with Sanchez again if Rex gets his way.

JonEJet · 03-07-2013, 01:17 PM

Lucky to have him.

Sad some here can't see that

BRONX JET · 03-07-2013, 01:18 PM

Nope

Eckesg1 · 03-07-2013, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnysd

This is not a Rex bashing thread.

But you can already see that Idzik and Rex are pretty far apart on some of the major issues including Revis, and I just get a sick feeling because I think our rebuilding could be compromised because of it.

Woody was wrong to force Rex to stay. Idzik needs an open charter to rebuild the team, not fight continuously with a lame duck coach who will continue to want to keep washed up veterans and only draft defense.

It just really bothers me. Rex should be gone. Not on a year after the Jets suck, likely with Sanchez again if Rex gets his way.

I don't hate it because Rex is on notice for this year. If they completely bomb this year, Rex will be gone.

And there has been no hardcore evidence to prove in fighting between Idzik and Rex. Just supposition.

I also disagree with the notion that Tannenbaum and Rex should have gone together because "they are tied at the hip"

Was Tanny tied to Mangini? Herm? I don't think so. So why all of the sudden is he tied to Rex at the hip.

gunnails · 03-07-2013, 01:19 PM

Rex is awesome,I hope he is here for te next 10 years.

SAR I · 03-07-2013, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnysd

This is not a Rex bashing thread.

But you can already see that Idzik and Rex are pretty far apart on some of the major issues including Revis, and I just get a sick feeling because I think our rebuilding could be compromised because of it.

Woody was wrong to force Rex to stay. Idzik needs an open charter to rebuild the team, not fight continuously with a lame duck coach who will continue to want to keep washed up veterans and only draft defense.

It just really bothers me. Rex should be gone. Not after this season when the the Jets suck, likely with Sanchez again if Rex gets his way.

You know, now that I think about it, it does bother me that Rex is still here.

SAR I

PatsFanTX · 03-07-2013, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnails

Rex is awesome,I hope he is here for te next 10 years.

+1

Eckesg1 · 03-07-2013, 01:28 PM

I don't even have to look at SAR's post and know what he said.

And PatsFanTX, I think he was being sarcastic.

DDNYjets · 03-07-2013, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

+1

I would be happy too if I was you.

GreenWave · 03-07-2013, 01:29 PM

I think hate is strong. I do think it should have been Idzik's choice 100%, and it sounds like it wasn't.

But every year, Rex has fielded a competitive (if not elite) defense, and now with an experienced and previously-successful guy running the offense, it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

Rex has had the bottom of the barrel as far as OCs - I think he deserves a shot with a competent signal-caller. And if he can find a way to get to 7 or 8 wins with this pathetic roster, I think he should stay even longer. 4 wins or less and he's probably gone.

NYJ37/12 · 03-07-2013, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnysd

This is not a Rex bashing thread.

But you can already see that Idzik and Rex are pretty far apart on some of the major issues including Revis, and I just get a sick feeling because I think our rebuilding could be compromised because of it.

Woody was wrong to force Rex to stay. Idzik needs an open charter to rebuild the team, not fight continuously with a lame duck coach who will continue to want to keep washed up veterans and only draft defense.

It just really bothers me. Rex should be gone. Not after this season when the the Jets suck, likely with Sanchez again if Rex gets his way.

Rex is a good coach but make no mistake, that is NOT the reason he is still here.

Money is the reason. If Woody did not have to eat another two years of salary, he would be gone.

The Jets are rebuilding. Rex is a lame duck coach. Revis is leaving. Sanchez will be the starter. Jets fans will endure.

Eckesg1 · 03-07-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

+1

Wait a minute. Why do you care if Rex stays? You said that great teams don't worry about bad teams in their division. So why do you care?

/Logic

johnnysd · 03-07-2013, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JonEJet

Lucky to have him.

Sad some here can't see that

He is a defensive coordinator not a head coach. Rex's best characteristic as a leader is loyalty. After Mangini, that loyalty was a valuable asset that rallied this team and led to 2 championship games.

But Rex's loyalty is also his downfall and why he will never sustain long term success as a head coach. Rex only sees "his" players for what they were and continues to trot them out there long after their skills have diminished. He is blindly loyal to poorly performing players (like Sanchez) and is unable to pull the trigger on tough changes and stick with them

He is known as a players coach, but he dramatically favors "his" defensive players. He so wants to be like by his players that he lets division and conflict fester and he has lost control of this team 2 years running. He is a loudmouth that puts additional pressure on his team

He is completely clueless when it comes to offense and NFL football is about offense no matter what he thinks.

We are not lucky to have him, he is one of the most overrated HC in the NFL. He may well be the best defensive coordinator in the NFL ot at least Top 5, but he is not a long term HC.

He needs to be gone. Some people can't see why he gets the support he does. Plus his philosophy and Idzik's do not match at all. This will end badly.

PatsFanTX · 03-07-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Wait a minute. Why do you care if Rex stays? You said that great teams don't worry about bad teams in their division. So why do you care?

/Logic

Seriously?

I'd much prefer Wrecks staying for the next 10 years rather than the Jets finding a good, competent HC.

All the Jets are doing is paying a DC to be a HC.

Eckesg1 · 03-07-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd

He is a defensive coordinator not a head coach. Rex's best characteristic as a leader is loyalty. After Mangini, that loyalty was a valuable asset that rallied this team and led to 2 championship games.

But Rex's loyalty is also his downfall and why he will never sustain long term success as a head coach. Rex only sees "his" players for what they were and continues to trot them out there long after their skills have diminished. He is blindly loyal to poorly performing players (like Sanchez) and is unable to pull the trigger on tough changes and stick with them

He is known as a players coach, but he dramatically favors "his" defensive players. He so wants to be like by his players that he lets division and conflict fester and he has lost control of this team 2 years running. He is a loudmouth that puts additional pressure on his team

He is completely clueless when it comes to offense and NFL football is about offense no matter what he thinks.

We are not lucky to have him, he is one of the most overrated HC in the NFL. He may well be the best defensive coordinator in the NFL ot at least Top 5, but he is not a long term HC.

He needs to be gone. Some people can't see why he gets the support he does. Plus his philosophy and Idzik's do not match at all. This will end badly.

Disagree. There was no mutiny last year. No one speaking out of place and anger. They just were bad last year.

Eckesg1 · 03-07-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Seriously?

I'd much prefer Wrecks staying for the next 10 years rather than the Jets finding a good, competent HC.

All the Jets are doing is paying a DC to be a HC.

You still didn't answer my question. You said and I quote (kind of) "Great teams don't worry about the worst team in that division"

So If we are the worst team in that division, why do you care who we have as a head coach.?

Your actions and words contradict each other.

PS: And don't say that fans are not part of the team. Of course they are. Look at Green Bay, Seattle, Oakland etc.

ASG0531 · 03-07-2013, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

Disagree. There was no mutiny last year. No one speaking out of place and anger. They just were bad last year.

That's assuming no one on the team had any issue with Sanchez being continually trotted out as the starter. Perhaps not everyone on the team felt Mark "gave us the best chance to win."

Mogglez · 03-07-2013, 01:44 PM

I actually don't mind Rex. I think he is a really good coach. Is he perfect? No. He definitely needs to fix some flaws but I think he can do it. I go honestly hope he's given a fair evaluation after this year. If we compete and the players play hard for him and our record improves, I want Rex back. If we go 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 again, he will likely be gone.

DDNYjets · 03-07-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckesg1

You still didn't answer my question. You said and I quote (kind of) "Great teams don't worry about the worst team in that division"

So If we are the worst team in that division, why do you care who we have as a head coach.?

Your actions and words contradict each other.

PS: And don't say that fans are not part of the team. Of course they are. Look at Green Bay, Seattle, Oakland etc.

I think your beloved logic is flawed yet again. They are not mutually exclusive. He can want Rex to coach and not be scared who the coach is. It is merely preference. I am sure fans of other teams are entertained by Rex.

Eckesg1 · 03-07-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ASG0531

That's assuming no one on the team had any issue with Sanchez being continually trotted out as the starter. Perhaps not everyone on the team felt Mark "gave us the best chance to win."

He really wasn't. He was benched in the middle of a game and at the end of the year.

Plus if they did dog it in the San Diego game as people claim, then they let Sanchez get back in the starters role by letting McElroy get hurt. So they did it to themselves. in way.

And of course, to your point, there is no outstanding evidence.

03-07-2013, 01:16 PM	#1
johnnysd Founding Member of the Geno Bandwagon Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,142	Anyone else hate that REX is still here This is not a Rex bashing thread. But you can already see that Idzik and Rex are pretty far apart on some of the major issues including Revis, and I just get a sick feeling because I think our rebuilding could be compromised because of it. Woody was wrong to force Rex to stay. Idzik needs an open charter to rebuild the team, not fight continuously with a lame duck coach who will continue to want to keep washed up veterans and only draft defense. It just really bothers me. Rex should be gone. Not after this season when the the Jets suck, likely with Sanchez again if Rex gets his way. Last edited by johnnysd; 03-07-2013 at 01:25 PM.

03-07-2013, 01:17 PM	#2
JonEJet Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 11,370	Lucky to have him. Sad some here can't see that

03-07-2013, 01:18 PM	#3
BRONX JET Geno chants will start week 1 All League Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Bronx, USA Posts: 3,008	Nope

03-07-2013, 01:19 PM	#5
gunnails All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,518	Rex is awesome,I hope he is here for te next 10 years.

03-07-2013, 01:28 PM	#8
Eckesg1 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,352	I don't even have to look at SAR's post and know what he said. And PatsFanTX, I think he was being sarcastic.

03-07-2013, 01:29 PM	#10
GreenWave Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,401	I think hate is strong. I do think it should have been Idzik's choice 100%, and it sounds like it wasn't. But every year, Rex has fielded a competitive (if not elite) defense, and now with an experienced and previously-successful guy running the offense, it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Rex has had the bottom of the barrel as far as OCs - I think he deserves a shot with a competent signal-caller. And if he can find a way to get to 7 or 8 wins with this pathetic roster, I think he should stay even longer. 4 wins or less and he's probably gone.

03-07-2013, 01:44 PM	#18
Mogglez "Jimmies. We rustle them."-CKC for lyfe Rookie Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 597	I actually don't mind Rex. I think he is a really good coach. Is he perfect? No. He definitely needs to fix some flaws but I think he can do it. I go honestly hope he's given a fair evaluation after this year. If we compete and the players play hard for him and our record improves, I want Rex back. If we go 4-12, 5-11, or 6-10 again, he will likely be gone.