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Come Back to NY · 03-27-2007, 11:26 AM

[QUOTE][B]Islamist Website Instructs Mujahideen in Using Popular U.S. Web Forums to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans[/B]

In the past few months, Islamists engaged in "media jihad" have increased their efforts to expose as broad a Western audience as possible to their jihad films, which purport to document the growing success of the mujahideen in Iraq and Afghanistan. As part of this endeavor, they have posted jihad films on popular free video-sharing websites such as YouTube, LiveLeak, and Google Video, hoping that such films will tip public opinion in the West against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan - thus pressuring Western governments to withdraw their troops from these countries.

As part of the campaign to foster anti-war sentiment among Westerners, and more specifically among Americans, a member of the Al-Mohajroon Islamist website with the username Al-Wathiq Billah instructed mujahideen in how to infiltrate popular American forums and to use them to distribute jihad films and spread disinformation about the war.

The following are excerpts: [1]

"Raiding American Forums is Among the Most Important Means of Obtaining Victory in the Fierce Media War… and of Influencing the Views of the Weak-Minded American"

"There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war... and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not [even] know where Iraq is... [It is therefore] mandatory for every electronic mujahid [to engage in this raiding]."

"It is better that you raid non-political forums such as music forums and trivia forums... which American people... favor... Define your target[ed forum]... and get to know it well... Post your contribution and do not get into... futile arguments..."

Indicate You Are an American

"Obviously, you have to register yourself using a purely American name... Choose an icon that indicates that you are an American, and place it next to your nickname [in the forum]."

"In my experience, the areas most visited in American forums... [are titled] 'Random Thoughts' and 'What's going on in your mind?'... [The former] takes priority in the American forums, and is highly popular. You should post your contribution there... This should include films of the mujahideen in Iraq, mujahideen publications in English, and images and films of the Americans' crimes, [such as] killing unarmed civilians in Iraq... etc."

"Invent Stories About American Soldiers You Have [Allegedly] Personally Known"

"Obviously, you should post your contribution... as an American... You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq... You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves..."

"Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs... because her poor fiancé, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated... [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God..."

How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government

"You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary... Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which... will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government..., which will... render them hostile to Bush... and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote ton bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible."

"Do not... discuss issues pertaining to Arabs or Muslims at all, whether negatively or positively... because this could be a trap for you... In addition, do not ask people to circulate the material [you have posted] in other forums... as these types of requests will expose you..."[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD150807[/url]

Islamofacists and AQ would like to thank the following....master of ceremonies dumbdawg, bitonti, parafly, kennyo and many others...

parafly · 03-27-2007, 11:34 AM

I don't need jihadist posers to shape my opinion. The incompetent leadership of this country has already achieved this task.

DeanPatsFan · 03-27-2007, 11:45 AM

Now this hits close to home.

I wonder if Dawg, kenny, bitonti and the rest are wearing turbans....

Jetdawgg · 03-27-2007, 11:55 AM

[QUOTE=parafly]I don't need jihadist posers to shape my opinion. The incompetent leadership of this country has already achieved this task.[/QUOTE]

Hands down brother. They 'jihadists' don't affect my opinion at all. I have never heard a presidency labeled incompetent before. [B]NEVER[/B]

DeanPatsFan · 03-27-2007, 11:59 AM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Hands down brother. They 'jihadists' don't affect my opinion at all. I have never heard a presidency labeled incompetent before. [B]NEVER[/B][/QUOTE]

Labeled incompetent by who, the nutty left wing websites you frequent?

MnJetFan · 03-27-2007, 11:59 AM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Hands down brother. They 'jihadists' don't affect my opinion at all. I have never heard a presidency labeled incompetent before. [B]NEVER[/B][/QUOTE]

Labeled by who? The Defeatist Democrats, the Media?

parafly · 03-27-2007, 12:05 PM

[QUOTE=MnJetFan]Labeled by who? The Defeatist Democrats, the Media?[/QUOTE]

Their actions speak for themselves.

Just to scratch the surface... Valerie Plame, Mission accomplished, Katrina, Abu Garab, US Attorneys, etc.

It's been scandal after scandal for this administration. How can anyone see this as anything other than incompetence at best? It's outright corruption IMO.

Jetdawgg · 03-27-2007, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=parafly]Their actions speak for themselves.

Just to scratch the surface... Valerie Plame, Mission accomplished, Katrina, Abu Garab, US Attorneys, etc.

It's been scandal after scandal for this administration. How can anyone see this as anything other than incompetence at best? It's outright corruption IMO.[/QUOTE]

Moreover, the fact that he had a 'rubber stamp' congress for 6 years now he has to govern and can't. He earned the label regardless of where it originated

JetsFan2012 · 03-27-2007, 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Moreover, the fact that he had a 'rubber stamp' congress for 6 years now he has to govern and can't. He earned the label regardless of where it originated[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, Congress is in great shape now. A bill loaded with $25 BILLION worth of pork and Pelosi has the balls to say that's a step in the right direction.

JetsFan2012 · 03-27-2007, 12:19 PM

That is a pretty fascinating story. Those jihadist instructions definitely have our number when it speaks of idiot Americans who are easily influenced by things on the internet.

[QUOTE]"Obviously, you should post your contribution... as an American... You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq... You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves..."

"Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs... because her poor fiancé, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated... [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God..."

How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government

"You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary... Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which... will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government..., which will... render them hostile to Bush... and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote ton bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible."[/QUOTE]

I read things like that everyday, right here on JI, with every "article" Jetdawgg posts.

cr726 · 03-27-2007, 12:22 PM

It is now fashionable to point out pork in bills? I don't agree with pork in any bill, but at least let the pork be spent in our own country.

Would we be happier if just lost the money and try to figure it out where it went a few years from now?

It is amazing now bills are an issue? No one knew what was going on for 6 years and look where we are, spending is out of control.

Sorry but you can't blame Clinton for the last six years of spending.

[QUOTE=pauliec]Oh yeah, Congress is in great shape now. A bill loaded with $25 BILLION worth of pork and Pelosi has the balls to say that's a step in the right direction.[/QUOTE]

Jetdawgg · 03-27-2007, 12:25 PM

[QUOTE=pauliec]That is a pretty fascinating story. Those jihadist instructions definitely have our number when it speaks of idiot Americans who are easily influenced by things on the internet.

I read things like that everyday, right here on JI, with every "article" Jetdawgg posts.[/QUOTE]

I post a lot about FOX

Jetdawgg · 03-27-2007, 12:26 PM

[QUOTE=cr726]It is now fashionable to point out pork in bills? I don't agree with pork in any bill, but at least let the pork be spent in our own country.

Would we be happier if just lost the money and try to figure it out where it went a few years from now?

It is amazing now bills are an issue? No one knew what was going on for 6 years and look where we are, spending is out of control.

[B]Sorry but you can't blame Clinton for the last six years of spending[/B].[/QUOTE]

They will find a way to do so C

JetsFan2012 · 03-27-2007, 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]I post a lot about FOX[/QUOTE]

hahahaha... you sure do

DeanPatsFan · 03-27-2007, 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]I post a lot about FOX[/QUOTE]

A far left liberal that watches Fox News 24/7.

Who'da thunk.....

JetsFan2012 · 03-27-2007, 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=cr726]It is now fashionable to point out pork in bills? I don't agree with pork in any bill, but at least let the pork be spent in our own country.

Would we be happier if just lost the money and try to figure it out where it went a few years from now?

It is amazing now bills are an issue? No one knew what was going on for 6 years and look where we are, spending is out of control.

Sorry but you can't blame Clinton for the last six years of spending.[/QUOTE]

What the hell are you talking about, fashionable? This was a major issue for the new Congress, to end the War in Iraq. At least, that's why the American people voted them in. When Pelosi realized she couldn't get enough signatures for her bill, she bought votes with money for peanut farmers and other ridiculous expenses.

This is current events, not fashionable arguments. :confused:

Jetdawgg · 03-27-2007, 12:54 PM

[QUOTE=DeanPatsFan]A far left liberal that watches Fox News 24/7.

Who'da thunk.....[/QUOTE]

I am pro gun and anti abortion. I don't watch FOX

cr726 · 03-27-2007, 01:06 PM

Pelosi made deals and the money you are talking about is a drop in the bucket if you look at what Iraq is costing us. Spend a little now and save a ton later, is that so bad?

[QUOTE=pauliec]What the hell are you talking about, fashionable? This was a major issue for the new Congress, to end the War in Iraq. At least, that's why the American people voted them in. When Pelosi realized she couldn't get enough signatures for her bill, she bought votes with money for peanut farmers and other ridiculous expenses.

This is current events, not fashionable arguments. :confused:[/QUOTE]

Jetdawgg · 03-27-2007, 01:32 PM

[QUOTE=cr726]Pelosi made deals and the money you are talking about is a drop in the bucket if you look at what Iraq is costing us. [B]Spend a little now and save a ton later[/B], is that so bad?[/QUOTE]

That's called being conservative

PlumberKhan · 03-27-2007, 02:54 PM

[QUOTE]...[B]raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war[/B]...[/QUOTE]

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[SIZE=3][B]HA![/B][/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]I gotta tell you, Bin Laden...That's a really stupid idea[/SIZE].

03-27-2007, 11:26 AM	#1
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	Islamist Website Instructs to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans.... [QUOTE][B]Islamist Website Instructs Mujahideen in Using Popular U.S. Web Forums to Foster Anti-War Sentiment among Americans[/B] In the past few months, Islamists engaged in "media jihad" have increased their efforts to expose as broad a Western audience as possible to their jihad films, which purport to document the growing success of the mujahideen in Iraq and Afghanistan. As part of this endeavor, they have posted jihad films on popular free video-sharing websites such as YouTube, LiveLeak, and Google Video, hoping that such films will tip public opinion in the West against the war in Iraq and Afghanistan - thus pressuring Western governments to withdraw their troops from these countries. As part of the campaign to foster anti-war sentiment among Westerners, and more specifically among Americans, a member of the Al-Mohajroon Islamist website with the username Al-Wathiq Billah instructed mujahideen in how to infiltrate popular American forums and to use them to distribute jihad films and spread disinformation about the war. The following are excerpts: [1] "Raiding American Forums is Among the Most Important Means of Obtaining Victory in the Fierce Media War… and of Influencing the Views of the Weak-Minded American" "There is no doubt, my brothers, that raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war... and of influencing the views of the weak-minded American who pays his taxes so they will go to the infidel American army. This American is an idiot and does not [even] know where Iraq is... [It is therefore] mandatory for every electronic mujahid [to engage in this raiding]." "It is better that you raid non-political forums such as music forums and trivia forums... which American people... favor... Define your target[ed forum]... and get to know it well... Post your contribution and do not get into... futile arguments..." Indicate You Are an American "Obviously, you have to register yourself using a purely American name... Choose an icon that indicates that you are an American, and place it next to your nickname [in the forum]." "In my experience, the areas most visited in American forums... [are titled] 'Random Thoughts' and 'What's going on in your mind?'... [The former] takes priority in the American forums, and is highly popular. You should post your contribution there... This should include films of the mujahideen in Iraq, mujahideen publications in English, and images and films of the Americans' crimes, [such as] killing unarmed civilians in Iraq... etc." "Invent Stories About American Soldiers You Have [Allegedly] Personally Known" "Obviously, you should post your contribution... as an American... You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq... You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves..." "Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs... because her poor fiancé, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated... [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God..." How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government "You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary... Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which... will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government..., which will... render them hostile to Bush... and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote ton bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible." "Do not... discuss issues pertaining to Arabs or Muslims at all, whether negatively or positively... because this could be a trap for you... In addition, do not ask people to circulate the material [you have posted] in other forums... as these types of requests will expose you..."[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.memri.org/bin/opener_latest.cgi?ID=SD150807[/url] Islamofacists and AQ would like to thank the following....master of ceremonies dumbdawg, bitonti, parafly, kennyo and many others...

03-27-2007, 11:34 AM	#2
parafly so why side with anything? All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,294	I don't need jihadist posers to shape my opinion. The incompetent leadership of this country has already achieved this task.

03-27-2007, 11:45 AM	#3
DeanPatsFan Lib Free Or Die..... All Pro Annoying Chowd Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,131	Now this hits close to home. I wonder if Dawg, kenny, bitonti and the rest are wearing turbans....

03-27-2007, 11:55 AM	#4
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=parafly]I don't need jihadist posers to shape my opinion. The incompetent leadership of this country has already achieved this task.[/QUOTE] Hands down brother. They 'jihadists' don't affect my opinion at all. I have never heard a presidency labeled incompetent before. [B]NEVER[/B]

03-27-2007, 11:59 AM	#5
DeanPatsFan Lib Free Or Die..... All Pro Annoying Chowd Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,131	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Hands down brother. They 'jihadists' don't affect my opinion at all. I have never heard a presidency labeled incompetent before. [B]NEVER[/B][/QUOTE] Labeled incompetent by who, the nutty left wing websites you frequent?

03-27-2007, 11:59 AM	#6
MnJetFan All League Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,302	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Hands down brother. They 'jihadists' don't affect my opinion at all. I have never heard a presidency labeled incompetent before. [B]NEVER[/B][/QUOTE] Labeled by who? The Defeatist Democrats, the Media?

03-27-2007, 12:05 PM	#7
parafly so why side with anything? All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,294	[QUOTE=MnJetFan]Labeled by who? The Defeatist Democrats, the Media?[/QUOTE] Their actions speak for themselves. Just to scratch the surface... Valerie Plame, Mission accomplished, Katrina, Abu Garab, US Attorneys, etc. It's been scandal after scandal for this administration. How can anyone see this as anything other than incompetence at best? It's outright corruption IMO.

03-27-2007, 12:14 PM	#8
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=parafly]Their actions speak for themselves. Just to scratch the surface... Valerie Plame, Mission accomplished, Katrina, Abu Garab, US Attorneys, etc. It's been scandal after scandal for this administration. How can anyone see this as anything other than incompetence at best? It's outright corruption IMO.[/QUOTE] Moreover, the fact that he had a 'rubber stamp' congress for 6 years now he has to govern and can't. He earned the label regardless of where it originated

03-27-2007, 12:17 PM	#9
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]Moreover, the fact that he had a 'rubber stamp' congress for 6 years now he has to govern and can't. He earned the label regardless of where it originated[/QUOTE] Oh yeah, Congress is in great shape now. A bill loaded with $25 BILLION worth of pork and Pelosi has the balls to say that's a step in the right direction.

03-27-2007, 12:19 PM	#10
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	That is a pretty fascinating story. Those jihadist instructions definitely have our number when it speaks of idiot Americans who are easily influenced by things on the internet. [QUOTE]"Obviously, you should post your contribution... as an American... You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq... You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known (as classmates... or members in a club who played baseball and tennis with you) who were drafted to Iraq and then committed suicide while in service by hanging or shooting themselves..." "Also, write using a sad tone, and tell them that you feel sorry for your [female] neighbor or co-worker who became addicted to alcohol or drugs... because her poor fiancé, a former soldier in Iraq, was paralyzed or [because] his legs were amputated... [Use any story] which will break their spirits, oh brave fighter for the sake of God..." How to Make Americans Feel Frustrated With Their Government "You should enter into debate or respond only if it is extremely necessary... Your concern should [only] be introducing topics which... will cause [them to feel] frustration and anger towards their government..., which will... render them hostile to Bush... and his Republican Party and make them feel they must vote ton bring the troops back from Iraq as soon as possible."[/QUOTE] I read things like that everyday, right here on JI, with every "article" Jetdawgg posts.

03-27-2007, 12:22 PM	#11
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,312	It is now fashionable to point out pork in bills? I don't agree with pork in any bill, but at least let the pork be spent in our own country. Would we be happier if just lost the money and try to figure it out where it went a few years from now? It is amazing now bills are an issue? No one knew what was going on for 6 years and look where we are, spending is out of control. Sorry but you can't blame Clinton for the last six years of spending. [QUOTE=pauliec]Oh yeah, Congress is in great shape now. A bill loaded with $25 BILLION worth of pork and Pelosi has the balls to say that's a step in the right direction.[/QUOTE]

03-27-2007, 12:25 PM	#12
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=pauliec]That is a pretty fascinating story. Those jihadist instructions definitely have our number when it speaks of idiot Americans who are easily influenced by things on the internet. I read things like that everyday, right here on JI, with every "article" Jetdawgg posts.[/QUOTE] I post a lot about FOX

03-27-2007, 12:26 PM	#13
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=cr726]It is now fashionable to point out pork in bills? I don't agree with pork in any bill, but at least let the pork be spent in our own country. Would we be happier if just lost the money and try to figure it out where it went a few years from now? It is amazing now bills are an issue? No one knew what was going on for 6 years and look where we are, spending is out of control. [B]Sorry but you can't blame Clinton for the last six years of spending[/B].[/QUOTE] They will find a way to do so C

03-27-2007, 12:28 PM	#14
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]I post a lot about FOX[/QUOTE] hahahaha... you sure do

03-27-2007, 12:30 PM	#15
DeanPatsFan Lib Free Or Die..... All Pro Annoying Chowd Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,131	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg]I post a lot about FOX[/QUOTE] A far left liberal that watches Fox News 24/7. Who'da thunk.....

03-27-2007, 12:31 PM	#16
JetsFan2012 Waterboy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 0	[QUOTE=cr726]It is now fashionable to point out pork in bills? I don't agree with pork in any bill, but at least let the pork be spent in our own country. Would we be happier if just lost the money and try to figure it out where it went a few years from now? It is amazing now bills are an issue? No one knew what was going on for 6 years and look where we are, spending is out of control. Sorry but you can't blame Clinton for the last six years of spending.[/QUOTE] What the hell are you talking about, fashionable? This was a major issue for the new Congress, to end the War in Iraq. At least, that's why the American people voted them in. When Pelosi realized she couldn't get enough signatures for her bill, she bought votes with money for peanut farmers and other ridiculous expenses. This is current events, not fashionable arguments. :confused:

03-27-2007, 12:54 PM	#17
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=DeanPatsFan]A far left liberal that watches Fox News 24/7. Who'da thunk.....[/QUOTE] I am pro gun and anti abortion. I don't watch FOX

03-27-2007, 01:06 PM	#18
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,312	Pelosi made deals and the money you are talking about is a drop in the bucket if you look at what Iraq is costing us. Spend a little now and save a ton later, is that so bad? [QUOTE=pauliec]What the hell are you talking about, fashionable? This was a major issue for the new Congress, to end the War in Iraq. At least, that's why the American people voted them in. When Pelosi realized she couldn't get enough signatures for her bill, she bought votes with money for peanut farmers and other ridiculous expenses. This is current events, not fashionable arguments. :confused:[/QUOTE]

03-27-2007, 01:32 PM	#19
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=cr726]Pelosi made deals and the money you are talking about is a drop in the bucket if you look at what Iraq is costing us. [B]Spend a little now and save a ton later[/B], is that so bad?[/QUOTE] That's called being conservative

03-27-2007, 02:54 PM	#20
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,015	[QUOTE]...[B]raiding American forums is among the most important means of obtaining victory in the fierce media war[/B]...[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.michaelmoore.com/_images/splash/college_sm.jpg[/IMG] [SIZE=3][B]HA![/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=2]I gotta tell you, Bin Laden...That's a really stupid idea[/SIZE].