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LSJF · 07-31-2007, 05:52 PM

Let me count the ways...Proctor's arm was spent from Joe t pitching him in every game we played. So we got this Bettermitt player from the Dodgers who the hell is he? A younger George would have pulled the strings to get a 27 yr old powerful switch hitting first basemen in Texeria, also he would not have lost out to Boston in getting Gagne. but don't worry we got Bitternut, hell be able to replace Miguel Cairo... I could begin to list Cushman's achievements if you'd like.

Signing Igwa, letting Bernie go, Abreau is a chump, not getting a contract for Mo and Posada, not getting Ted Lilly, not having a real 1st baseman(Meintowitz, while a good guy is no Tino M). Signing Farnworthless, not improving the pen today. I know there is more I cant think, I'm pissed. I hate the people he has brought in!

Tyler Durden · 07-31-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LSJF

Let me count the ways...Proctor's arm was spent from Joe t pitching him in every game we played. So we got this Bettermitt player from the Dodgers who the hell is he? A younger George would have pulled the strings to get a 27 yr old powerful switch hitting first basemen in Texeria, also he would not have lost out to Boston in getting Gagne. but don't worry we got Bitternut, hell be able to replace Miguel Cairo... I could begin to list Cushman's achievements if you'd like.

Signing Igwa, letting Bernie go, Abreau is a chump, not getting a contract for Mo and Posada, not getting Ted Lilly, not having a real 1st baseman(Meintowitz, while a good guy is no Tino M). Signing Farnworthless, not improving the pen today. I know there is more I cant think, I'm pissed. I hate the people he has brought in!

Right there I can see you don't know much about baseball.

SenorGato · 07-31-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LSJF

Let me count the ways...Proctor's arm was spent from Joe t pitching him in every game we played. So we got this Bettermitt player from the Dodgers who the hell is he? A younger George would have pulled the strings to get a 27 yr old powerful switch hitting first basemen in Texeria, also he would not have lost out to Boston in getting Gagne. but don't worry we got Bitternut, hell be able to replace Miguel Cairo... I could begin to list Cushman's achievements if you'd like.

Signing Igwa, letting Bernie go, Abreau is a chump, not getting a contract for Mo and Posada, not getting Ted Lilly, not having a real 1st baseman(Meintowitz, while a good guy is no Tino M). Signing Farnworthless, not improving the pen today. I know there is more I cant think, I'm pissed. I hate the people he has brought in!

Wow.

That whole post is wow.

The least you could have done is spell one friggin name right.

neckdemon · 07-31-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Ryan

Right there I can see you don't know much about baseball.

well...let's be fair betemit isn't exactly a great ballplayer....matter of fact if you ask me he is below average

neckdemon · 07-31-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorGato

Wow.

That whole post is wow.

The least you could have done is spell one friggin name right.

i think the misspelling was on purpose

SenorGato · 07-31-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

well...let's be fair betemit isn't exactly a great ballplayer....matter of fact if you ask me he is below average

Yea...27 year olds with an OPS over .800 usually are below average players.

I don't see the point of being GM for the Yankees. You get good players nobody (aka NYers) have never heard of, and that guy can't POSSIBLY be good. Otherwise he would have been a Yankee a long time ago...or ESPN would have said something, right?

neckdemon · 07-31-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorGato

Yea...27 year olds with an OPS over .800 usually are below average players.

yeah you're right. wtf are the sorry red sox gonna do now? the yanks got wilson betemit, b*tches, look out. how do they plan on getting this juggernaught out? F teixeira and gagne, those are consolation prizes compared to that beast wilson betemit.

Tyler Durden · 07-31-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

yeah you're right. wtf are the sorry red sox gonna do now? the yanks got wilson betemit, b*tches, look out. how do they plan on getting this juggernaught out? F teixeira and gagne, those are consolation prizes compared to that beast wilson betemit.

Typical answer from you. You said he was a below average player. He gave you a reason why he isn't. Why can't you admit once and while that you are wrong. Instead you put a twist on it. Again doesn't surprise me.

JetsFan2012 · 07-31-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Ryan

Typical answer from you. You said he was a below average player. He gave you a reason why he isn't. Why can't you admit once and while that you are wrong. Instead you put a twist on it. Again doesn't surprise me.

He's right, though. Teixera or Gagne would have been an instant, bold-faced improvement, especially Gagne.

Tyler Durden · 07-31-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pauliec

He's right, though. Teixera or Gagne would have been an instant, bold-faced improvement, especially Gagne.

That is besides the point paulie. The chances of us catching the Red Soxs before this deal was slim. I like both Teixera and Gagne. But I am not giving away any of your top tier prospects for a 2 month rental. It is not the worth it. Gagne is not making us a World Series team. And I believe we simply don't need Teixera.

Right now we look at what the Indians did, nothing.

neckdemon · 07-31-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Ryan

Typical answer from you.

You said he was a below average player. He gave you a reason why he isn't.

Why can't you admit once and while that you are wrong.

Instead you put a twist on it.

because it's my opinion that wilson betemit is a below average player. ops isn't the be all end all stat of how good a player is. first of all his batting average is borderline pitiful. yeah he's hit a few homeruns, but that's it. so you get a homerun every once in a while and a ton of ground outs with some singles thrown in. ok he can get on base, but he can't steal a base to save his life......and if the plan is puttign him at 1st base...well no on eeven knows how he will do there.......and despite what some people might think having a good defensive first baseman who is used to making stretches and picking throws out of the dirt is more essential than you might think.

Ruby2 · 07-31-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Ryan

That is besides the point paulie. The chances of us catch the Red Soxs before this deal was slim. I like both Teixera and Gagne. But I am not giving away any of your top tier prospects for a 2 month rental. It is not the worth it. Gagne is not making us a World Series team.

+1

If im a Yankee fan im ecstatic that the Indians or Mariners didn't get Gagne, not pissed off that the Red Sox did.

SenorGato · 07-31-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

yeah you're right. wtf are the sorry red sox gonna do now? the yanks got wilson betemit, b*tches, look out. how do they plan on getting this juggernaught out? F teixeira and gagne, those are consolation prizes compared to that beast wilson betemit.

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Lol. This is why I love NY fans. If you aren't a superstar or you haven't played for the Yankees or Mets...how can you be good?

Lol @ the idiot who thinks a player with an OPS over .800 is "below average."

neckdemon · 07-31-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorGato

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Lol. This is why I love NY fans. You're either the best...or you're the worst...everything is either black or white.

no, but in my opinion betemit is a decent bench player/pinch hitter. the yankees have a decent chance to get the wild card.......an eric gagne or mark teixiera would help in the play-offs alot more than a wilson betemit. 3 years ago the yankees get either or......and they then go on to make the play-offs and even the world series

JetPotato · 07-31-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorGato

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Lol. This is why I love NY fans. If you aren't a superstar or you haven't played for the Yankees or Mets...how can you be good?

Lol @ the idiot who thinks a player with an OPS over .800 is "below average."

don't lump this doofus in with a large number of us "NY fans" who actually understand baseball, please. he does NOT represent.

you want to generalize, extend it to "NY Mets" fans

JetsFan2012 · 07-31-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean Ryan

That is besides the point paulie. The chances of us catch the Red Soxs before this deal was slim. I like both Teixera and Gagne. But I am not giving away any of your top tier prospects for a 2 month rental. It is not the worth it. Gagne is not making us a World Series team. And I believe we simply don't need Teixera.

Right now we look at what the Indians did, nothing.

That's a solid viewpoint and an excellent conclusion.

However, I hate, hate, HATE the Red Sox. It absolutely infuriates me that our biggest rival now has an unstoppable pitching staff. Their starters are very good and their relief is damn near perfect. Thinking about Gagne setting up Papelbon makes my stomach turn.

JetsFan2012 · 07-31-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorGato

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Lol. This is why I love NY fans. If you aren't a superstar or you haven't played for the Yankees or Mets...how can you be good?

Lol @ the idiot who thinks a player with an OPS over .800 is "below average."

So where do you live, Kansas?

neckdemon · 07-31-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Guido Monzino

don't lump this doofus in with a large number of us "NY fans" who actually understand baseball, please. he does NOT represent.

you want to generalize, extend it to "NY Mets" fans

yeah i'm a doofus...lol whatever.

don't be mad at me, i'm not the one who spit the bit as the yankees GM and missed out on 2 bonafide team improvements for friggin wilson betemit. lo, i understand your anger thoughm and if you need to take it out on someone it's ok, you can use me.

JetPotato · 07-31-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

no, but in my opinion betemit is a decent bench player/pinch hitter. the yankees have a decent chance to get the wild card.......an eric gagne or mark teixiera would help in the play-offs alot more than a wilson betemit. 3 years ago the yankees get either or......and they then go on to make the play-offs and even the world series

Look, buddy, just because in Queens, it's just acceptable to get into the playoffs, doesn't mean that's how it is for a real franchise. The Yankees win CHAMPIONSHIPS.

The Yankees would've pulled the trigger on the Texiera or Gagne deals if it turned them into WS contenders, but it wouldn't have. Like you stae, it MIGHT have got them into the playoffs. Well, the Yankees aren't playing their seasons for 1st or 2nd round exits.

Instead, maybe Cashman realized that not making those deals today puts his team in a much better position to win it all in 2008 and beyond.

SenorGato · 07-31-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pauliec

He's right, though. Teixera or Gagne would have been an instant, bold-faced improvement, especially Gagne.

Teixera = overrated.

Over his career he's been a .264/.358/.489/.847 away from Arlington.

07-31-2007, 05:52 PM	#1
LSJF Brother, Where You Been? Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,388	Cashman Sucks Let me count the ways...Proctor's arm was spent from Joe t pitching him in every game we played. So we got this Bettermitt player from the Dodgers who the hell is he? A younger George would have pulled the strings to get a 27 yr old powerful switch hitting first basemen in Texeria, also he would not have lost out to Boston in getting Gagne. but don't worry we got Bitternut, hell be able to replace Miguel Cairo... I could begin to list Cushman's achievements if you'd like. Signing Igwa, letting Bernie go, Abreau is a chump, not getting a contract for Mo and Posada, not getting Ted Lilly, not having a real 1st baseman(Meintowitz, while a good guy is no Tino M). Signing Farnworthless, not improving the pen today. I know there is more I cant think, I'm pissed. I hate the people he has brought in!