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BrooklynBound · 12-16-2007, 01:19 AM

That's two weeks ahead of his goal. Yeah, he's got marginal support, alright.

[url]http://www.ronpaul2008.com/[/url]

JetsCrazey · 12-16-2007, 03:45 AM

With all this money he will be taking this campaign national soon.

sackdance · 12-16-2007, 08:11 AM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2266067]That's two weeks ahead of his goal. Yeah, he's got marginal support, alright.

[url]http://www.ronpaul2008.com/[/url][/QUOTE]

Huckabee's got the votes (no money) and Paul's got the money (no votes). Who's the groundswell with again?

sackdance · 12-16-2007, 08:43 AM

Headline: [Url="http://www.bnd.com/news/politics/story/204905.html"]"Ron Paul backers enthused, poll numbers pitiful"[/Url]

PlumberKhan · 12-16-2007, 09:39 AM

[QUOTE=sackdance;2266176]Headline: [Url="http://www.bnd.com/news/politics/story/204905.html"]"Ron Paul backers enthused, poll numbers pitiful"[/Url][/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.bnd.com/news/politics/story/204905.html[/url]

[QUOTE]Given his way, Paul would eliminate the CIA, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the Federal Reserve, the Department of Education, the Internal Revenue Service, drug laws, bans on gay marriage, the war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, congressional gold medals, Hurricane Katrina relief, farm subsidies and U.S. membership in the United Nations and NATO.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a plan.

cr726 · 12-16-2007, 09:46 AM

Ron Paul is starting to sound like the kid running for class president. Promising longer lunches and less homework. He would never be able to get rid of half the things he is promising.

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2266277][url]http://www.bnd.com/news/politics/story/204905.html[/url]

Sounds like a plan.[/QUOTE]

PlumberKhan · 12-16-2007, 10:05 AM

[QUOTE=cr726;2266301]Ron Paul is starting to sound like the kid running for class president. Promising longer lunches and less homework. He would never be able to get rid of half the things he is promising.[/QUOTE]

People who want to eliminate government bureaucracy never get elected. Washington has a way of dealing with people who have big ideas of smaller government and government reform.

[IMG]http://www.rollanet.org/~vbeydler/van/3dreview/borg3d_000.jpg[/IMG]

cr726 · 12-16-2007, 10:14 AM

I do enjoy watching so called die hard Republicans fight amongst themselves about Paul.

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2266357]People who want to eliminate government bureaucracy never get elected. Washington has a way of dealing with people who have big ideas of smaller government and government reform.

[IMG]http://www.rollanet.org/~vbeydler/van/3dreview/borg3d_000.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

jets5ever · 12-16-2007, 11:00 AM

That is impressive.

Paul seems okay, but he is afflicted with the problem afflicting many "pure" libertarians. They are so wedded to their intellectual purity that they become indistinguishable from others and don't much care about actually getting anything real done or realizing that politics is a step by step process of gradual change. And so they revel in their obscurity, content with their intellectual purity, even though they haven't accomplished a damn thing. Why do you think the Libertarian Party is so ineffective? It's afflicted with an amazingly high degree of self-satisfaction. For example, on free trade, Paul votes against most free trade agreements. He does so because they aren't "free enough." Well, no sh*t Sherlock...they are flawed. Bu they are also significant steps in the right direction and a purely free trade bill would never pass and getting the country to that ultimate goal is a step by step process and won't all happen at once.. And things don't change over night. But RP has his precious intellectual purity, even if he votes against free-trade agreements that if blocked, would have the effect of moving us in a protectionist direction. The country isn't some philosophy class and a President has to actually deal with a congress and states and cannot simply wish his intellectually-pure libertarianism onto the country, especially if facing what is likely to be a larger Democrat majority in 2008. But doing nothing and being pure about it seems more important to him than compromising and taking the long view and gradual approach. Many of my hardcore libertarian friends are the same way. I do respect that he's anti-abortion, however...shows his judgment is sound.

What is Paul actually going to be able to accomplish? What's his track record of working with others outside of and within his own party to pass legislation that, while perhaps not perfect ideologically, is a step in the right direction? Is he just going to try to do a few grand things, fail miserably, and then revel in his intellectual purity, or is he actually going yo be able to be an effective leader?

That's why I suport Romney. For one, he's smarter than everyone else and has been successful at virtually everything ge's ever done, both privately and publicly. He was governor in a state where 85% of the legislature is Dem, and he balanced the budget 3 years in a row without raising taxes. He's a master at finding inefficiencies and correcting them and increasing productivity and lowering cost. He's done it privately and in government. He doesn't have the purity of Ron Paul, but I think, practically, Romney would be a more effective conservative executive. The more I look at everyone running, the more I think it's a no-brainer and that Romney is clearly the smartest, most-qualified candidate...by far. I don't even think it's close, to be honest. JMO.

ptath2 · 12-16-2007, 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=cr726;2266301]Ron Paul is starting to sound like the kid running for class president. Promising longer lunches and less homework. He would never be able to get rid of half the things he is promising.[/QUOTE]

I would be happy if he could just get it started.

cr726 · 12-16-2007, 11:13 AM

Are you watching Meet the Press right now?

[QUOTE=jets5ever;2266505]That is impressive.

Paul seems okay, but he is afflicted with the problem afflicting many "pure" libertarians. They are so wedded to their intellectual purity that they become indistinguishable from others and don't much care about actually getting anything real done or realizing that politics is a step by step process of gradual change. And so they revel in their obscurity, content with their intellectual purity, even though they haven't accomplished a damn thing. Why do you think the Libertarian Party is so ineffective? It's afflicted with an amazingly high degree of self-satisfaction. For example, on free trade, Paul votes against most free trade agreements. He does so because they aren't "free enough." Well, no sh*t Sherlock...they are flawed. Bu they are also significant steps in the right direction and a purely free trade bill would never pass and getting the country to that ultimate goal is a step by step process and won't all happen at once.. And things don't change over night. But RP has his precious intellectual purity, even if he votes against free-trade agreements that if blocked, would have the effect of moving us in a protectionist direction. The country isn't some philosophy class and a President has to actually deal with a congress and states and cannot simply wish his intellectually-pure libertarianism onto the country, especially if facing what is likely to be a larger Democrat majority in 2008. But doing nothing and being pure about it seems more important to him than compromising and taking the long view and gradual approach. Many of my hardcore libertarian friends are the same way. I do respect that he's anti-abortion, however...shows his judgment is sound.

What is Paul actually going to be able to accomplish? What's his track record of working with others outside of and within his own party to pass legislation that, while perhaps not perfect ideologically, is a step in the right direction? Is he just going to try to do a few grand things, fail miserably, and then revel in his intellectual purity, or is he actually going yo be able to be an effective leader?

That's why I suport Romney. For one, he's smarter than everyone else and has been successful at virtually everything ge's ever done, both privately and publicly. He was governor in a state where 85% of the legislature is Dem, and he balanced the budget 3 years in a row without raising taxes. He's a master at finding inefficiencies and correcting them and increasing productivity and lowering cost. He's done it privately and in government. He doesn't have the purity of Ron Paul, but I think, practically, Romney would be a more effective conservative executive. The more I look at everyone running, the more I think it's a no-brainer and that Romney is clearly the smartest, most-qualified candidate...by far. I don't even think it's close, to be honest. JMO.[/QUOTE]

ptath2 · 12-16-2007, 11:17 AM

[QUOTE=jets5ever;2266505]That is impressive.

Paul seems okay, but he is afflicted with the problem afflicting many "pure" libertarians. They are so wedded to their intellectual purity that they become indistinguishable from others and don't much care about actually getting anything real done or realizing that politics is a step by step process of gradual change. And so they revel in their obscurity, content with their intellectual purity, even though they haven't accomplished a damn thing. Why do you think the Libertarian Party is so ineffective? It's afflicted with an amazingly high degree of self-satisfaction. For example, on free trade, Paul votes against most free trade agreements. He does so because they aren't "free enough." Well, no sh*t Sherlock...they are flawed. Bu they are also significant steps in the right direction and a purely free trade bill would never pass and getting the country to that ultimate goal is a step by step process and won't all happen at once.. And things don't change over night. But RP has his precious intellectual purity, even if he votes against free-trade agreements that if blocked, would have the effect of moving us in a protectionist direction. The country isn't some philosophy class and a President has to actually deal with a congress and states and cannot simply wish his intellectually-pure libertarianism onto the country, especially if facing what is likely to be a larger Democrat majority in 2008. But doing nothing and being pure about it seems more important to him than compromising and taking the long view and gradual approach. Many of my hardcore libertarian friends are the same way. I do respect that he's anti-abortion, however...shows his judgment is sound.

What is Paul actually going to be able to accomplish? What's his track record of working with others outside of and within his own party to pass legislation that, while perhaps not perfect ideologically, is a step in the right direction? Is he just going to try to do a few grand things, fail miserably, and then revel in his intellectual purity, or is he actually going yo be able to be an effective leader?

.[/QUOTE]

That is probalby the best assessment of Libertarians that I have seen in a while. I left the Republican party because of the spending of the last eight years and they didn't even try to reduce government in any meaningful way. I joined the libertarian party and I have spent more time fighting libertarians and their purity tests.

Ron Pauls second biggest issue is his supporters, when you talk to them you never know what Ron Pauls policies are and why they are beneficial, all you can discern from talking with the rank and file Ron Paul supporter is that he wants out of Iraq, that there are any number of conspiracy theories against their candidate, and that if you don't support Ron Paul you are either socialist or fascist.

JetsCrazey · 12-16-2007, 11:32 AM

Ron Paul's message is simple: promote freedom. Underlying most arguments against Ron Paul is a lack of belief in freedom itself.

sackdance · 12-16-2007, 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;2266389]I do enjoy watching so called die hard Republicans fight amongst themselves about Paul.[/QUOTE]
"Die hard Republicans" might be fighting, but not over Ron Paul. What part of the not-getting-votes equation are you failing to comprehend?

cr726 · 12-16-2007, 12:49 PM

Did I miss a vote? I didn't realize you are the spokesman for the "Die Hard Republicans". I still have no idea who I would vote for, but I do know who I wouldn't.

[QUOTE=sackdance;2266677]"Die hard Republicans" might be fighting, but not over Ron Paul. What part of the not-getting-votes equation are you failing to comprehend?[/QUOTE]

BrooklynBound · 12-16-2007, 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=sackdance;2266154]Huckabee's got the votes (no money) and Paul's got the money (no votes). Who's the groundswell with again?[/QUOTE]

Let's see some actual elections before we say he's not getting votes. You don't raise that much money with "no votes."

King Ryan · 12-16-2007, 04:46 PM

[b]The Good Doctor Ron Paul is now over $15 million on the quarter! This is with 7+ hours to go for the Tea Party[/b]

If you haven't already done so, please donate!

[url]http://www.ronpaul2008.com[/url]

[url]http://www.teaparty07.com[/url]

King Ryan · 12-16-2007, 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2267039]Let's see some actual elections before we say he's not getting votes. You don't raise that much money with "no votes."[/QUOTE]

For the first time in my life, I registered under a party... this is just so I can vote for The Good Doctor Ron Paul so I can support him on the primary 2/5 here in NJ

12-16-2007, 04:56 PM

rupaul has support alright

stormwatch and three adolescent nerds having
a "meetup" in a subway station

was just in a luntz tv panel
28 random gopers
1 for huckster
0 for rupaul

approval dials were handed out
when pawn raul came on
one lady said
does this thing go lower than zero?

cr726 · 12-16-2007, 05:06 PM

Which Republican are you backing? Romney who changes his mind more than a forgetful woman or Rudy simlpy because he was Mayor during 9-11.

[QUOTE=flushingjet;2268852]rupaul has support alright

stormwatch and three adolescent nerds having
a "meetup" in a subway station

was just in a luntz tv panel
28 random gopers
1 for huckster
0 for rupaul

approval dials were handed out
when pawn raul came on
one lady said
does this thing go lower than zero?[/QUOTE]

12-16-2007, 01:19 AM	#1
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	Ron Paul hits 12 mil for the quarter That's two weeks ahead of his goal. Yeah, he's got marginal support, alright. [url]http://www.ronpaul2008.com/[/url]

12-16-2007, 11:00 AM	#9
jets5ever Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 11,692	That is impressive. Paul seems okay, but he is afflicted with the problem afflicting many "pure" libertarians. They are so wedded to their intellectual purity that they become indistinguishable from others and don't much care about actually getting anything real done or realizing that politics is a step by step process of gradual change. And so they revel in their obscurity, content with their intellectual purity, even though they haven't accomplished a damn thing. Why do you think the Libertarian Party is so ineffective? It's afflicted with an amazingly high degree of self-satisfaction. For example, on free trade, Paul votes against most free trade agreements. He does so because they aren't "free enough." Well, no sht Sherlock...they are flawed. Bu they are also significant steps in the right direction and a purely free trade bill would never pass and getting the country to that ultimate goal is a step by step process and won't all happen at once.. And things don't change over night. But RP has his precious intellectual purity, even if he votes against free-trade agreements that if blocked, would have the effect of moving us in a protectionist direction. The country isn't some philosophy class and a President has to actually deal with a congress and states and cannot simply wish his intellectually-pure libertarianism onto the country, especially if facing what is likely to be a larger Democrat majority in 2008. But doing nothing and being pure about it seems more important to him than compromising and taking the long view and gradual approach. Many of my hardcore libertarian friends are the same way. I do respect that he's anti-abortion, however...shows his judgment is sound. What is Paul actually going to be able to accomplish? What's his track record of working with others outside of and within his own party to pass legislation that, while perhaps not perfect ideologically, is a step in the right direction? Is he just going to try to do a few grand things, fail miserably, and then revel in his intellectual purity, or is he actually going yo be able to be an effective leader? That's why I suport Romney. For one, he's smarter than everyone else and has been successful at virtually everything ge's ever done, both privately and publicly. He was governor in a state where 85% of the legislature is Dem, and he balanced the budget 3 years in a row without raising taxes. He's a master at finding inefficiencies and correcting them and increasing productivity and lowering cost. He's done it privately and in government. He doesn't have the purity of Ron Paul, but I think, practically, Romney would be a more effective conservative executive. The more I look at everyone running, the more I think it's a no-brainer and that Romney is clearly the smartest, most-qualified candidate...by far. I don't even think it's close, to be honest. JMO. Last edited by jets5ever; 12-16-2007 at 11:04 AM.*

12-16-2007, 03:45 AM	#2
JetsCrazey All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,676	With all this money he will be taking this campaign national soon.

12-16-2007, 08:11 AM	#3
sackdance All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,907	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2266067]That's two weeks ahead of his goal. Yeah, he's got marginal support, alright. [url]http://www.ronpaul2008.com/[/url][/QUOTE] Huckabee's got the votes (no money) and Paul's got the money (no votes). Who's the groundswell with again?

12-16-2007, 08:43 AM	#4
sackdance All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,907	Headline: [Url="http://www.bnd.com/news/politics/story/204905.html"]"Ron Paul backers enthused, poll numbers pitiful"[/Url]

12-16-2007, 09:39 AM	#5
PlumberKhan HAIL SATAN! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,081	[QUOTE=sackdance;2266176]Headline: [Url="http://www.bnd.com/news/politics/story/204905.html"]"Ron Paul backers enthused, poll numbers pitiful"[/Url][/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bnd.com/news/politics/story/204905.html[/url] [QUOTE]Given his way, Paul would eliminate the CIA, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, the Federal Reserve, the Department of Education, the Internal Revenue Service, drug laws, bans on gay marriage, the war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, congressional gold medals, Hurricane Katrina relief, farm subsidies and U.S. membership in the United Nations and NATO.[/QUOTE] Sounds like a plan.

12-16-2007, 09:46 AM	#6
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,532	Ron Paul is starting to sound like the kid running for class president. Promising longer lunches and less homework. He would never be able to get rid of half the things he is promising. [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2266277][url]http://www.bnd.com/news/politics/story/204905.html[/url] Sounds like a plan.[/QUOTE]

12-16-2007, 10:05 AM	#7
PlumberKhan HAIL SATAN! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,081	[QUOTE=cr726;2266301]Ron Paul is starting to sound like the kid running for class president. Promising longer lunches and less homework. He would never be able to get rid of half the things he is promising.[/QUOTE] People who want to eliminate government bureaucracy never get elected. Washington has a way of dealing with people who have big ideas of smaller government and government reform. [IMG]http://www.rollanet.org/~vbeydler/van/3dreview/borg3d_000.jpg[/IMG]

12-16-2007, 10:14 AM	#8
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,532	I do enjoy watching so called die hard Republicans fight amongst themselves about Paul. [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2266357]People who want to eliminate government bureaucracy never get elected. Washington has a way of dealing with people who have big ideas of smaller government and government reform. [IMG]http://www.rollanet.org/~vbeydler/van/3dreview/borg3d_000.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]

12-16-2007, 11:06 AM	#10
ptath2 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Virginia fromerly New Hampshire Posts: 735	[QUOTE=cr726;2266301]Ron Paul is starting to sound like the kid running for class president. Promising longer lunches and less homework. He would never be able to get rid of half the things he is promising.[/QUOTE] I would be happy if he could just get it started.

12-16-2007, 11:13 AM	#11
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,532	Are you watching Meet the Press right now? [QUOTE=jets5ever;2266505]That is impressive. Paul seems okay, but he is afflicted with the problem afflicting many "pure" libertarians. They are so wedded to their intellectual purity that they become indistinguishable from others and don't much care about actually getting anything real done or realizing that politics is a step by step process of gradual change. And so they revel in their obscurity, content with their intellectual purity, even though they haven't accomplished a damn thing. Why do you think the Libertarian Party is so ineffective? It's afflicted with an amazingly high degree of self-satisfaction. For example, on free trade, Paul votes against most free trade agreements. He does so because they aren't "free enough." Well, no sh*t Sherlock...they are flawed. Bu they are also significant steps in the right direction and a purely free trade bill would never pass and getting the country to that ultimate goal is a step by step process and won't all happen at once.. And things don't change over night. But RP has his precious intellectual purity, even if he votes against free-trade agreements that if blocked, would have the effect of moving us in a protectionist direction. The country isn't some philosophy class and a President has to actually deal with a congress and states and cannot simply wish his intellectually-pure libertarianism onto the country, especially if facing what is likely to be a larger Democrat majority in 2008. But doing nothing and being pure about it seems more important to him than compromising and taking the long view and gradual approach. Many of my hardcore libertarian friends are the same way. I do respect that he's anti-abortion, however...shows his judgment is sound. What is Paul actually going to be able to accomplish? What's his track record of working with others outside of and within his own party to pass legislation that, while perhaps not perfect ideologically, is a step in the right direction? Is he just going to try to do a few grand things, fail miserably, and then revel in his intellectual purity, or is he actually going yo be able to be an effective leader? That's why I suport Romney. For one, he's smarter than everyone else and has been successful at virtually everything ge's ever done, both privately and publicly. He was governor in a state where 85% of the legislature is Dem, and he balanced the budget 3 years in a row without raising taxes. He's a master at finding inefficiencies and correcting them and increasing productivity and lowering cost. He's done it privately and in government. He doesn't have the purity of Ron Paul, but I think, practically, Romney would be a more effective conservative executive. The more I look at everyone running, the more I think it's a no-brainer and that Romney is clearly the smartest, most-qualified candidate...by far. I don't even think it's close, to be honest. JMO.[/QUOTE]

12-16-2007, 11:17 AM	#12
ptath2 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Virginia fromerly New Hampshire Posts: 735	[QUOTE=jets5ever;2266505]That is impressive. Paul seems okay, but he is afflicted with the problem afflicting many "pure" libertarians. They are so wedded to their intellectual purity that they become indistinguishable from others and don't much care about actually getting anything real done or realizing that politics is a step by step process of gradual change. And so they revel in their obscurity, content with their intellectual purity, even though they haven't accomplished a damn thing. Why do you think the Libertarian Party is so ineffective? It's afflicted with an amazingly high degree of self-satisfaction. For example, on free trade, Paul votes against most free trade agreements. He does so because they aren't "free enough." Well, no sh*t Sherlock...they are flawed. Bu they are also significant steps in the right direction and a purely free trade bill would never pass and getting the country to that ultimate goal is a step by step process and won't all happen at once.. And things don't change over night. But RP has his precious intellectual purity, even if he votes against free-trade agreements that if blocked, would have the effect of moving us in a protectionist direction. The country isn't some philosophy class and a President has to actually deal with a congress and states and cannot simply wish his intellectually-pure libertarianism onto the country, especially if facing what is likely to be a larger Democrat majority in 2008. But doing nothing and being pure about it seems more important to him than compromising and taking the long view and gradual approach. Many of my hardcore libertarian friends are the same way. I do respect that he's anti-abortion, however...shows his judgment is sound. What is Paul actually going to be able to accomplish? What's his track record of working with others outside of and within his own party to pass legislation that, while perhaps not perfect ideologically, is a step in the right direction? Is he just going to try to do a few grand things, fail miserably, and then revel in his intellectual purity, or is he actually going yo be able to be an effective leader? .[/QUOTE] That is probalby the best assessment of Libertarians that I have seen in a while. I left the Republican party because of the spending of the last eight years and they didn't even try to reduce government in any meaningful way. I joined the libertarian party and I have spent more time fighting libertarians and their purity tests. Ron Pauls second biggest issue is his supporters, when you talk to them you never know what Ron Pauls policies are and why they are beneficial, all you can discern from talking with the rank and file Ron Paul supporter is that he wants out of Iraq, that there are any number of conspiracy theories against their candidate, and that if you don't support Ron Paul you are either socialist or fascist.

12-16-2007, 11:32 AM	#13
JetsCrazey All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,676	Ron Paul's message is simple: promote freedom. Underlying most arguments against Ron Paul is a lack of belief in freedom itself.

12-16-2007, 12:44 PM	#14
sackdance All Pro Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 5,907	[QUOTE=cr726;2266389]I do enjoy watching so called die hard Republicans fight amongst themselves about Paul.[/QUOTE] "Die hard Republicans" might be fighting, but not over Ron Paul. What part of the not-getting-votes equation are you failing to comprehend?

12-16-2007, 12:49 PM	#15
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,532	Did I miss a vote? I didn't realize you are the spokesman for the "Die Hard Republicans". I still have no idea who I would vote for, but I do know who I wouldn't. [QUOTE=sackdance;2266677]"Die hard Republicans" might be fighting, but not over Ron Paul. What part of the not-getting-votes equation are you failing to comprehend?[/QUOTE]

12-16-2007, 01:37 PM	#16
BrooklynBound Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,550	[QUOTE=sackdance;2266154]Huckabee's got the votes (no money) and Paul's got the money (no votes). Who's the groundswell with again?[/QUOTE] Let's see some actual elections before we say he's not getting votes. You don't raise that much money with "no votes."

12-16-2007, 04:46 PM	#17
King Ryan take a guess Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montville, NJ Posts: 5,473	[b]The Good Doctor Ron Paul is now over $15 million on the quarter! This is with 7+ hours to go for the Tea Party[/b] If you haven't already done so, please donate! [url]http://www.ronpaul2008.com[/url] [url]http://www.teaparty07.com[/url]

12-16-2007, 04:51 PM	#18
King Ryan take a guess Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montville, NJ Posts: 5,473	[QUOTE=BrooklynBound;2267039]Let's see some actual elections before we say he's not getting votes. You don't raise that much money with "no votes."[/QUOTE] For the first time in my life, I registered under a party... this is just so I can vote for The Good Doctor Ron Paul so I can support him on the primary 2/5 here in NJ

12-16-2007, 04:56 PM	#19
flushingjet Edit Status Guest Posts: n/a	rupaul has support alright stormwatch and three adolescent nerds having a "meetup" in a subway station was just in a luntz tv panel 28 random gopers 1 for huckster 0 for rupaul approval dials were handed out when pawn raul came on one lady said does this thing go lower than zero?

12-16-2007, 05:06 PM	#20
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,532	Which Republican are you backing? Romney who changes his mind more than a forgetful woman or Rudy simlpy because he was Mayor during 9-11. [QUOTE=flushingjet;2268852]rupaul has support alright stormwatch and three adolescent nerds having a "meetup" in a subway station was just in a luntz tv panel 28 random gopers 1 for huckster 0 for rupaul approval dials were handed out when pawn raul came on one lady said does this thing go lower than zero?[/QUOTE]