Voter Fraud in Georgia, Stealing Votes from the Mentally Challenged - Jets Insider.com Forums

HDCentStOhio · 10-18-2008, 11:47 PM

Disgraceful story.

[B]Mentally challenged man says his vote wasn't right[/B]

Posted: Oct 14, 2008 05:50 PM EDT

October 14, 2008

ALBANY, GA (WALB) - There are allegations of voter fraud, as a Dougherty County family claims the vote of a mentally challenged relative was stolen.

They say the adult day rehab program where Jack Justice attends took him to vote, without the family's permission. What's worse is Justice says the person helping him wouldn't cast the ballot for his choice for President.

Jack Justice has been voting since he turned 18. Typically his family takes him to their neighborhood precinct. This time Primus Industries, his adult day rehab program, took him to vote. His family was shocked, but what shocked them more was that Jack claims that his aide commandeered his vote.

"They told me to vote for Obama, I said no I wanted to vote for McCain," said Jack Justice, a voter.

Jack Justice says the person helping him, selected Obama's name. His sister says the family is often asked to sign a permission slips for trips, but for this they were never notified.

"No permission slips, no nothing, he just came home and said he had gone," said Nancy Justice, Jack's sister.

We questioned election officials about the procedure, who say they recall the group coming in to vote and an aide was helping the individuals, but they must sign an oath that they'll cast the ballot however the voter prefers.

"So it plainly says the person should tell the person how they want to vote and then they help them mark it," said Carolyn Hatcher, Dougherty County Elections Supervisor.

Election officials say they can't follow people into the booth to see what happens. We contacted the Albany Area Community Service Board who oversees Primus Industries. They say they do their best to protect the safety, treatment, and care of the individuals in their programs. They also said they'll look into the allegations and conduct an internal investigation if necessary. Nancy Justice is just upset the incident happened.

"For me it was kind of pushing it to the limit there to get him to vote for someone in particular who they wanted him to vote for," said Nancy Justice.

Election officials say the family's only option is to file a challenge to the election results. The Justice's are considering their options.

Advance voting will begin this Monday at the Riverfront Resource Center on Pine Avenue. Advance voted will run through October 31st. No one will be able to vote the Monday prior to election day.

[url]http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?s=9177991[/url]

BushyTheBeaver · 10-18-2008, 11:50 PM

Sorry, I don't read posts that are nothing but links. You gotta work a little harder than posting a link.

HDCentStOhio · 10-18-2008, 11:52 PM

[QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;2810068]Sorry, I don't read posts that are nothing but links. You gotta work a little harder than posting a link.[/QUOTE]

See edit. Hit wrong button.

cr726 · 10-18-2008, 11:57 PM

HD are you already pinning this on ACORN?

BushyTheBeaver · 10-19-2008, 12:05 AM

[QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2810071]See edit. Hit wrong button.[/QUOTE]

Got it, thanks. If the guy was robbed, that's wrong. This kind of crap drives me nuts. Still, you have to admit But the headline of "Mentally Challenged Man Votes for McCain" is kinda funny.

HDCentStOhio · 10-19-2008, 09:41 AM

[QUOTE=cr726;2810078]HD are you already pinning this on ACORN?[/QUOTE]

There is no evidence of ACORN involvement in this case. You think ACORN holds a monopoly on voter fraud? I wonder how widespread this strategy is. I have heard of residential facilities requesting absentee ballots for their entire population and running the collum for the Dems, and having patients make their "mark", even though they were profoundly retarded or demented. Anectotal evidence, yes, but goes along with what happened in this published case.

long island leprechaun · 10-19-2008, 09:54 AM

"They wanted me to vote for Obama, but I wanted to vote for Donald Duck! I love Donald Duck! And I want my pudding NOW!!!"

Yes, the election results are in doubt. Democracy has been subverted.

P.S. I'm not surprised at all that someone who is mentally challenged would want to vote for McCain. That's the most amusing part of the story.... ;)

cr726 · 10-19-2008, 09:54 AM

I don't think ACORN holds a monopoly, but you obviously think Democrats do.

[QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2810229]There is no evidence of ACORN involvement in this case. You think ACORN holds a monopoly on voter fraud? I wonder how widespread this strategy is. I have heard of residential facilities requesting absentee ballots for their entire population and running the collum for the Dems, and having patients make their "mark", even though they were profoundly retarded or demented. Anectotal evidence, yes, but goes along with what happened in this published case.[/QUOTE]

HDCentStOhio · 10-19-2008, 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=long island leprechaun;2810236]"They wanted me to vote for Obama, but I wanted to vote for Donald Duck! [B]I love Donald Duck! And I want my pudding NOW!!!"[/B]

Yes, the election results are in doubt. Democracy has been subverted.

P.S. I'm not surprised at all that someone who is mentally challenged would want to vote for McCain. That's the most amusing part of the story.... ;)[/QUOTE]
For someone allegedly in the healthcare field, this is not a compassionate statement. Yeah, the "mentally challenged" are a punchline.

Everything is par for the course in this post given your track record. Something unfair to Republicans, it is all a big joke to you, something not to be taken seriously.

long island leprechaun · 10-19-2008, 03:00 PM

[QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2810390]For someone allegedly in the healthcare field, this is not a compassionate statement. Yeah, the "mentally challenged" are a punchline.

Everything is par for the course in this post given your track record. Something unfair to Republicans, it is all a big joke to you, something not to be taken seriously.[/QUOTE]

Either you're mentally challenged yourself or you are being completely disingenuous. The irony of your thread is beyond amusing. And I should mention that, besides having spent the majority of my career in mental health care, I also have two neices who are developmentally disabled -- one severely. She loves balloons. She's now 33. But never fear, she is voting for McCain. :rolleyes:

10-18-2008, 11:47 PM	#1
HDCentStOhio longing for the days of Ronald Reagan Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island & Section 337 Posts: 4,859	Voter Fraud in Georgia, Stealing Votes from the Mentally Challenged Disgraceful story. [B]Mentally challenged man says his vote wasn't right[/B] Posted: Oct 14, 2008 05:50 PM EDT October 14, 2008 ALBANY, GA (WALB) - There are allegations of voter fraud, as a Dougherty County family claims the vote of a mentally challenged relative was stolen. They say the adult day rehab program where Jack Justice attends took him to vote, without the family's permission. What's worse is Justice says the person helping him wouldn't cast the ballot for his choice for President. Jack Justice has been voting since he turned 18. Typically his family takes him to their neighborhood precinct. This time Primus Industries, his adult day rehab program, took him to vote. His family was shocked, but what shocked them more was that Jack claims that his aide commandeered his vote. "They told me to vote for Obama, I said no I wanted to vote for McCain," said Jack Justice, a voter. Jack Justice says the person helping him, selected Obama's name. His sister says the family is often asked to sign a permission slips for trips, but for this they were never notified. "No permission slips, no nothing, he just came home and said he had gone," said Nancy Justice, Jack's sister. We questioned election officials about the procedure, who say they recall the group coming in to vote and an aide was helping the individuals, but they must sign an oath that they'll cast the ballot however the voter prefers. "So it plainly says the person should tell the person how they want to vote and then they help them mark it," said Carolyn Hatcher, Dougherty County Elections Supervisor. Election officials say they can't follow people into the booth to see what happens. We contacted the Albany Area Community Service Board who oversees Primus Industries. They say they do their best to protect the safety, treatment, and care of the individuals in their programs. They also said they'll look into the allegations and conduct an internal investigation if necessary. Nancy Justice is just upset the incident happened. "For me it was kind of pushing it to the limit there to get him to vote for someone in particular who they wanted him to vote for," said Nancy Justice. Election officials say the family's only option is to file a challenge to the election results. The Justice's are considering their options. Advance voting will begin this Monday at the Riverfront Resource Center on Pine Avenue. Advance voted will run through October 31st. No one will be able to vote the Monday prior to election day. [url]http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?s=9177991[/url] Last edited by HDCentStOhio; 10-18-2008 at 11:51 PM. Reason: sent too soon

10-18-2008, 11:50 PM	#2
BushyTheBeaver size matters All League Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,929	Sorry, I don't read posts that are nothing but links. You gotta work a little harder than posting a link.

10-18-2008, 11:52 PM	#3
HDCentStOhio longing for the days of Ronald Reagan Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island & Section 337 Posts: 4,859	[QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;2810068]Sorry, I don't read posts that are nothing but links. You gotta work a little harder than posting a link.[/QUOTE] See edit. Hit wrong button.

10-18-2008, 11:57 PM	#4
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,329	HD are you already pinning this on ACORN?

10-19-2008, 12:05 AM	#5
BushyTheBeaver size matters All League Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,929	[QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2810071]See edit. Hit wrong button.[/QUOTE] Got it, thanks. If the guy was robbed, that's wrong. This kind of crap drives me nuts. Still, you have to admit But the headline of "Mentally Challenged Man Votes for McCain" is kinda funny.

10-19-2008, 09:41 AM	#6
HDCentStOhio longing for the days of Ronald Reagan Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island & Section 337 Posts: 4,859	[QUOTE=cr726;2810078]HD are you already pinning this on ACORN?[/QUOTE] There is no evidence of ACORN involvement in this case. You think ACORN holds a monopoly on voter fraud? I wonder how widespread this strategy is. I have heard of residential facilities requesting absentee ballots for their entire population and running the collum for the Dems, and having patients make their "mark", even though they were profoundly retarded or demented. Anectotal evidence, yes, but goes along with what happened in this published case.

10-19-2008, 09:54 AM	#7
long island leprechaun Don't mess with Angel Eyes. All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: greenwich village, NYC Posts: 7,254	"They wanted me to vote for Obama, but I wanted to vote for Donald Duck! I love Donald Duck! And I want my pudding NOW!!!" Yes, the election results are in doubt. Democracy has been subverted. P.S. I'm not surprised at all that someone who is mentally challenged would want to vote for McCain. That's the most amusing part of the story.... ;)

10-19-2008, 01:04 PM	#9
HDCentStOhio longing for the days of Ronald Reagan Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island & Section 337 Posts: 4,859	[QUOTE=long island leprechaun;2810236]"They wanted me to vote for Obama, but I wanted to vote for Donald Duck! [B]I love Donald Duck! And I want my pudding NOW!!!"[/B] Yes, the election results are in doubt. Democracy has been subverted. P.S. I'm not surprised at all that someone who is mentally challenged would want to vote for McCain. That's the most amusing part of the story.... ;)[/QUOTE] For someone allegedly in the healthcare field, this is not a compassionate statement. Yeah, the "mentally challenged" are a punchline. Everything is par for the course in this post given your track record. Something unfair to Republicans, it is all a big joke to you, something not to be taken seriously.

10-19-2008, 03:00 PM	#10
long island leprechaun Don't mess with Angel Eyes. All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: greenwich village, NYC Posts: 7,254	[QUOTE=HDCentStOhio;2810390]For someone allegedly in the healthcare field, this is not a compassionate statement. Yeah, the "mentally challenged" are a punchline. Everything is par for the course in this post given your track record. Something unfair to Republicans, it is all a big joke to you, something not to be taken seriously.[/QUOTE] Either you're mentally challenged yourself or you are being completely disingenuous. The irony of your thread is beyond amusing. And I should mention that, besides having spent the majority of my career in mental health care, I also have two neices who are developmentally disabled -- one severely. She loves balloons. She's now 33. But never fear, she is voting for McCain. :rolleyes: