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Jets4life335 · 12-28-2008, 06:01 PM

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Report: Browns fire GM Phil Savage

Profootballtalk reports that the Browns have already let go of Phil Savage.
Savage won a power struggle with team president John Collins in 2005, Savage's first year on the job, and had Cleveland on the rise the next two years. After a highly aggressive offseason that included trading up for Brady Quinn in the 2007 draft, the Browns went 10-6 and Savage got a contract extension. However, this year's 4-12 flop coupled with Savage's PR blunders sealed his fate. Savage is still sure to resurface at a high position in another NFL front office. He's a good evaluator and respected by his peers. Dec. 28 - 5:23 pm et

hendu24 · 12-28-2008, 06:41 PM

They just said on NFL network that Cleveland hasnt scored a off. td in 24 quarters.that is fn crazy

Johnny Bravo · 12-28-2008, 06:43 PM

[QUOTE=hendu24;2937190]They just said on NFL network that Cleveland hasnt scored a off. td in 24 quarters.that is fn crazy[/QUOTE]

Damn! Crennel is next!

VincenzoTestaverde · 12-28-2008, 06:45 PM

He's out of a job but he still had an insane draft in 2007. Joe Thomas + Brady Quinn. I'll sign up for that sh*t any day.

Darth Vader · 12-28-2008, 06:49 PM

What happened to Quinn?

Mike D · 12-28-2008, 06:51 PM

Hopefully our F.O. follows suit and gets rid of Mangini by tomorrow morning, leave his personal belongings on the ****ing street.

VincenzoTestaverde · 12-28-2008, 07:02 PM

[QUOTE=Darth Vader;2937237]What happened to Quinn?[/QUOTE]

Broke his index finger on his throwing hand against the Bills. Out for the season. Would still trade all of our QB's for him or Cutler.

Schroy48 · 12-28-2008, 07:22 PM

bump

Jets4life335 · 12-28-2008, 08:59 PM

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Browns to fire Crennel after Savage ousted

By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com
(Archive)

Updated: December 28, 2008, 8:01 PM ET

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Report: Browns To Ask Crennel, Savage To Step Down

Cleveland Browns senior vice president and general manager Phil Savage was fired on Sunday and team sources said that coach Romeo Crennel will also lose his job.

After the Browns lost their final six games of the year, the team confirmed Savage's ouster. An official announcement on the GM and the coach is expected as early as Monday and no later than Tuesday.

Browns owner Randy Lerner told Savage by phone before the team left Pittsburgh after losing a 31-0 season finale to the Steelers. The Browns finished the season with a 4-12 record, dropping to a last-place finish in the AFC North behind the Cincinnati Bengals (4-11-1).

Lerner is expected to make a run at former Steelers coach Bill Cowher, but there has been no indication that Cowher would embrace a job in Cleveland.

The Browns must adhere to the Rooney Rule and also interview minority candidates for the head coaching vacancy.

If Cowher rebuffs Lerner, sources say the owner wants to go through a thorough process and is expected to interview a handful of candidates for the GM and head coaching positions. League sources have speculated that Patriots vice president of personnel Scott Pioli is a potential successor to Savage. Lerner does not have a prior relationship with Pioli.

If Pioli is hired, head coaching candidates are expected to be Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz.

Lerner was unavailable for immediate comment Sunday and a Browns spokesman also had no comment. Savage also could not be reached for comment.

It was believed that Savage's future was somewhat secure, but in the past week, sources say he was notified by Lerner that he may not be involved in the franchise's process to address the future.

The Browns had high expectations after a 10-6 season in 2007 that resulted in lucrative contract extensions for both Savage and Crennel. Savage received a new four-year deal worth $2.7 million annually and Crennel got a two-year extension through 2011. Crennel has between $9-and-$10 million remaining on his contract, a source said.

Savage has had well-acclaimed drafts since he became the GM in 2004. In April 2007, he drafted Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas with the third overall pick and traded back into the first round to choose Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn. The Browns have had 10-12 players who were either selected to the Pro Bowl or who were Pro Bowl alternates during the past two years.

However, injuries and uneven play on offense and defense contributed to a dismal start that headed downhill after Quinn's season ended with a broken finger on his throwing hand on Nov. 17 in a Monday night 29-27 victory over the Buffalo Bills.

That was the last game the Cleveland offense produced a touchdown during the six-game losing streak to end the season.

Shortly after the Buffalo game, Savage had a nasty e-mail exchange with a disgruntled Browns fan that became public. Earlier, he was embroiled in a dispute with tight end Kellen Winslow, who claimed he was discouraged from disclosing that he had been sidelined by a staph infection, an ongoing dilemma for the team in recent years.

VincenzoTestaverde · 12-28-2008, 09:00 PM

Crennel is now available. Say hello to our next defensive coordinator.

johnnysd · 12-28-2008, 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=VincenzoTestaverde;2937323]Broke his index finger on his throwing hand against the Bills. Out for the season. Would still trade all of our QB's for him or Cutler.[/QUOTE]

Still not impressed with Quinn at all. Much prefer we give Ratliff a try.

Jerricho89 · 12-28-2008, 09:39 PM

Remember all the pundits who said that the Browns had the best offseason on 2008? I guess they were wrong.

And yes, it's true, Cleveland's offense did not score a TD in its last six games.

12-28-2008, 06:01 PM	#1
Jets4life335 in a sea of Pats fans. Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 941	Phil Savage Fired Already (Crennel Next) [url]http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=136573&id=2566[/url] Report: Browns fire GM Phil Savage Profootballtalk reports that the Browns have already let go of Phil Savage. Savage won a power struggle with team president John Collins in 2005, Savage's first year on the job, and had Cleveland on the rise the next two years. After a highly aggressive offseason that included trading up for Brady Quinn in the 2007 draft, the Browns went 10-6 and Savage got a contract extension. However, this year's 4-12 flop coupled with Savage's PR blunders sealed his fate. Savage is still sure to resurface at a high position in another NFL front office. He's a good evaluator and respected by his peers. Dec. 28 - 5:23 pm et Last edited by Jets4life335; 12-28-2008 at 08:58 PM.

12-28-2008, 06:41 PM	#2
hendu24 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,052	They just said on NFL network that Cleveland hasnt scored a off. td in 24 quarters.that is fn crazy

12-28-2008, 06:43 PM	#3
Johnny Bravo SNUBBED! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 10,702	[QUOTE=hendu24;2937190]They just said on NFL network that Cleveland hasnt scored a off. td in 24 quarters.that is fn crazy[/QUOTE] Damn! Crennel is next!

12-28-2008, 06:45 PM	#4
VincenzoTestaverde laughing at the Pledge Against America Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 9,162	He's out of a job but he still had an insane draft in 2007. Joe Thomas + Brady Quinn. I'll sign up for that sh*t any day.

12-28-2008, 06:49 PM	#5
Darth Vader Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11,877	What happened to Quinn?

12-28-2008, 06:51 PM	#6
Mike D 2-14 here we come!! And I couldn't be happier about it!! All Pro Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sunrise, FL Posts: 9,915	Hopefully our F.O. follows suit and gets rid of Mangini by tomorrow morning, leave his personal belongings on the ****ing street.

12-28-2008, 07:02 PM	#7
VincenzoTestaverde laughing at the Pledge Against America Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 9,162	[QUOTE=Darth Vader;2937237]What happened to Quinn?[/QUOTE] Broke his index finger on his throwing hand against the Bills. Out for the season. Would still trade all of our QB's for him or Cutler.

12-28-2008, 07:22 PM	#8
Schroy48 aka JETMAN73 - Your friendly neighbor in the next section ;) Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,910	bump

12-28-2008, 08:59 PM	#9
Jets4life335 in a sea of Pats fans. Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 941	[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3795786[/url] Browns to fire Crennel after Savage ousted By Chris Mortensen ESPN.com (Archive) Updated: December 28, 2008, 8:01 PM ET * Comment * Email * Print Report: Browns To Ask Crennel, Savage To Step Down Cleveland Browns senior vice president and general manager Phil Savage was fired on Sunday and team sources said that coach Romeo Crennel will also lose his job. After the Browns lost their final six games of the year, the team confirmed Savage's ouster. An official announcement on the GM and the coach is expected as early as Monday and no later than Tuesday. Browns owner Randy Lerner told Savage by phone before the team left Pittsburgh after losing a 31-0 season finale to the Steelers. The Browns finished the season with a 4-12 record, dropping to a last-place finish in the AFC North behind the Cincinnati Bengals (4-11-1). Lerner is expected to make a run at former Steelers coach Bill Cowher, but there has been no indication that Cowher would embrace a job in Cleveland. The Browns must adhere to the Rooney Rule and also interview minority candidates for the head coaching vacancy. If Cowher rebuffs Lerner, sources say the owner wants to go through a thorough process and is expected to interview a handful of candidates for the GM and head coaching positions. League sources have speculated that Patriots vice president of personnel Scott Pioli is a potential successor to Savage. Lerner does not have a prior relationship with Pioli. If Pioli is hired, head coaching candidates are expected to be Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz. Lerner was unavailable for immediate comment Sunday and a Browns spokesman also had no comment. Savage also could not be reached for comment. It was believed that Savage's future was somewhat secure, but in the past week, sources say he was notified by Lerner that he may not be involved in the franchise's process to address the future. The Browns had high expectations after a 10-6 season in 2007 that resulted in lucrative contract extensions for both Savage and Crennel. Savage received a new four-year deal worth $2.7 million annually and Crennel got a two-year extension through 2011. Crennel has between $9-and-$10 million remaining on his contract, a source said. Savage has had well-acclaimed drafts since he became the GM in 2004. In April 2007, he drafted Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas with the third overall pick and traded back into the first round to choose Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn. The Browns have had 10-12 players who were either selected to the Pro Bowl or who were Pro Bowl alternates during the past two years. However, injuries and uneven play on offense and defense contributed to a dismal start that headed downhill after Quinn's season ended with a broken finger on his throwing hand on Nov. 17 in a Monday night 29-27 victory over the Buffalo Bills. That was the last game the Cleveland offense produced a touchdown during the six-game losing streak to end the season. Shortly after the Buffalo game, Savage had a nasty e-mail exchange with a disgruntled Browns fan that became public. Earlier, he was embroiled in a dispute with tight end Kellen Winslow, who claimed he was discouraged from disclosing that he had been sidelined by a staph infection, an ongoing dilemma for the team in recent years.

12-28-2008, 09:00 PM	#10
VincenzoTestaverde laughing at the Pledge Against America Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 9,162	Crennel is now available. Say hello to our next defensive coordinator.

12-28-2008, 09:23 PM	#11
johnnysd Founding Member of the Geno Bandwagon Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,166	[QUOTE=VincenzoTestaverde;2937323]Broke his index finger on his throwing hand against the Bills. Out for the season. Would still trade all of our QB's for him or Cutler.[/QUOTE] Still not impressed with Quinn at all. Much prefer we give Ratliff a try.

12-28-2008, 09:39 PM	#12
Jerricho89 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,348	Remember all the pundits who said that the Browns had the best offseason on 2008? I guess they were wrong. And yes, it's true, Cleveland's offense did not score a TD in its last six games.