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Macmaven · 12-28-2008, 10:21 PM

What was the ruling when the Miami player obviously stepped out of the endzone receiving the kickoff, then kneeled down? Why wasn't that a safety?

FF2® · 12-28-2008, 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=Macmaven;2938408]What was the ruling when the Miami player obviously stepped out of the endzone receiving the kickoff, then kneeled down? Why wasn't that a safety?[/QUOTE]

Announcers said it was because entire BALL never left the end zone.

HERDFAN1 · 12-28-2008, 10:24 PM

Apparently the ruling was the ball never broke the plane of the goal line, like a touchdown in reverse. Feet didn't matter but the ball did.

Macmaven · 12-28-2008, 10:27 PM

That's when the game completely changed. Chad threw the flea flicker right after that......

TechJet · 12-28-2008, 10:27 PM

According to the rule the ball had to be in the field of play, after he stepped back in the end zone. the ruling dosent make any sense to me. that should have been a safety.

tedtedthefootballhead · 12-28-2008, 10:29 PM

i did not hear the ruling, but my only guess it's because they feel the BALL did not exit the end zone. what else could it have been?

Jason423 · 12-28-2008, 10:49 PM

I thought the ball broke the plane when they showed the replay on the screen at the game, but then again those replays are always going to favor the Jets. Im not sure if the play is reviewable. They did discuss it with Mangini when they went to a time out.

beemer · 12-28-2008, 10:52 PM

Up in the stands I figured that the refs must have blown the play dead, giving the returner the touchback he was obviously asking for.

Darth Vader · 12-28-2008, 10:54 PM

[QUOTE=Jason423;2938560]I thought the ball broke the plane when they showed the replay on the screen at the game, but then again those replays are always going to favor the Jets. Im not sure if the play is reviewable. They did discuss it with Mangini when they went to a time out.[/QUOTE]

the play was reviewable.

but the entire ball had to pass the EZ into the field of play.

and I guess they didnt think they could show that conclusively.

12-28-2008, 10:21 PM	#1
Macmaven Practice Squad Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 32	Touchback or Safety? What was the ruling when the Miami player obviously stepped out of the endzone receiving the kickoff, then kneeled down? Why wasn't that a safety?

12-28-2008, 10:23 PM	#2
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,620	[QUOTE=Macmaven;2938408]What was the ruling when the Miami player obviously stepped out of the endzone receiving the kickoff, then kneeled down? Why wasn't that a safety?[/QUOTE] Announcers said it was because entire BALL never left the end zone.

12-28-2008, 10:24 PM	#3
HERDFAN1 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West-by God-Virginia Posts: 1,016	Apparently the ruling was the ball never broke the plane of the goal line, like a touchdown in reverse. Feet didn't matter but the ball did.

12-28-2008, 10:27 PM	#4
Macmaven Practice Squad Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 32	That's when the game completely changed. Chad threw the flea flicker right after that......

12-28-2008, 10:27 PM	#5
TechJet Still waiting for the next Jet SB crown. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fr:NYC to Mid Ga. Posts: 8,558	According to the rule the ball had to be in the field of play, after he stepped back in the end zone. the ruling dosent make any sense to me. that should have been a safety.

12-28-2008, 10:29 PM	#6
tedtedthefootballhead Are the J.E.T.S. ready for the next level? (Hopefully before I DIE) All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Windsor NJ, Brooklyn born & raised Posts: 4,966	i did not hear the ruling, but my only guess it's because they feel the BALL did not exit the end zone. what else could it have been?

12-28-2008, 10:49 PM	#7
Jason423 All Pro Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 9,671	I thought the ball broke the plane when they showed the replay on the screen at the game, but then again those replays are always going to favor the Jets. Im not sure if the play is reviewable. They did discuss it with Mangini when they went to a time out.

12-28-2008, 10:52 PM	#8
beemer Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gateway to the Catskills Posts: 1,785	Up in the stands I figured that the refs must have blown the play dead, giving the returner the touchback he was obviously asking for.

12-28-2008, 10:54 PM	#9
Darth Vader Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11,877	[QUOTE=Jason423;2938560]I thought the ball broke the plane when they showed the replay on the screen at the game, but then again those replays are always going to favor the Jets. Im not sure if the play is reviewable. They did discuss it with Mangini when they went to a time out.[/QUOTE] the play was reviewable. but the entire ball had to pass the EZ into the field of play. and I guess they didnt think they could show that conclusively.