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ucrenegade · 12-31-2008, 08:29 PM

how do you tell if you are on the left or right or a consverative. How can you tell if you are republican or a dem. Is thier a test or something? I don't know what i am I usually just like who I think could do the best job.

crazyeffinjetsfan · 12-31-2008, 08:47 PM

If you:

1. Take responsibility for your own actions
2. Work hard for what you have, like to keep the money you earn and not have it redistributed to the needy (lazy)
3. Believe in social morality
4. Believe that everyone should STFU and live their own lives and stop trying to "change" everything

You probably are conservative

If you:

1. Have a bleeding heart and feel sorry for the needy (lazy)
2. Believe in Big Government (Socialism) and high taxes
3. Support PETA and Greenpeace
4. Look to sue because you tripped on a crack in the sidewalk and want to blame the City instead of your clumsy ass
5. Wear tie-dye shirt, cargo shorts and Birkenstocks, and protest a lot
6. Think that anyone who thinks conservatively is a caveman, homophobe, fascist, war monger, etc.
7. Believe in the freedom of speech unless that speech differs in opinion from yours
8. Feel like ripping me a new a$$hole for this post

You are probably a liberal

Ciaran · 12-31-2008, 09:21 PM

there's this [url=www.politicalcompass.org]political compass[/url] thing that's pretty popular but it's old as **** and even [i]i[/i] think a few of the questions are biased to the left.

i'm a (-5.75, -4.5), chillin' in the bottom left with the dalai lama, mandela, kucinich, the canadian ndp and ralph nader. ralph forgot the party favors and we are really upset with him but at the same time too liberal to take any action past the "complaining" stage :(

ucrenegade · 12-31-2008, 09:50 PM

lol i am

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18

left authoritarian

whatthe · 12-31-2008, 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;2947274]how do you tell if you are on the left or right or a consverative. How can you tell if you are republican or a dem. Is thier a test or something? I don't know what i am I usually just like who I think could do the best job.[/QUOTE]

If you think the government should work for the wealthy you are a modern day Republican, if you think the government should work for all the people you are a Democrat

Sharrow · 01-01-2009, 02:35 AM

They're organized groups. You aren't a Democrat or a Republican unless you choose to be. If you're registered to vote, then you should know if you're a democrat, republican, green, independent, etc. If you didn't specify a party when you registered then you're an independent like I am.

Regarding the labels, generally you're talking about social and fiscal policy. If you're more for pure freedom, then you're on the socially liberal side, if you're more for "responsible" freedom then you're on the socially conservative side. If you're more for the government helping people then you're on the fiscally liberal side, if you're more for the government staying out of people's business then you're on the fiscally conservative side.

Most people aren't all of any one thing, their opinions can be found in all four categories depending on the situation. Which is why, imo, labeling them "conservative" or "liberal" is ridiculous.

Sharrow · 01-01-2009, 02:37 AM

[QUOTE=crazyeffinjetsfan;2947295]If you:

1. Take responsibility for your own actions
2. Work hard for what you have, like to keep the money you earn and not have it redistributed to the needy (lazy)
3. Believe in social morality
4. Believe that everyone should STFU and live their own lives and stop trying to "change" everything

You probably are conservative

If you:

1. Have a bleeding heart and feel sorry for the needy (lazy)
2. Believe in Big Government (Socialism) and high taxes
3. Support PETA and Greenpeace
4. Look to sue because you tripped on a crack in the sidewalk and want to blame the City instead of your clumsy ass
5. Wear tie-dye shirt, cargo shorts and Birkenstocks, and protest a lot
6. Think that anyone who thinks conservatively is a caveman, homophobe, fascist, war monger, etc.
7. Believe in the freedom of speech unless that speech differs in opinion from yours
8. Feel like ripping me a new a$$hole for this post

You are probably a liberal[/QUOTE]

And if you truly think any of that, or the opposite of that, then you're neither. You're an idiot.

My opinion would be to stay as you are, don't get caught up in the stupid labels. Otherwise you become like that ^.

crazyeffinjetsfan · 01-01-2009, 06:45 PM

[QUOTE=Sharrow;2947453]And if you truly think any of that, or the opposite of that, then you're neither. You're an idiot.

My opinion would be to stay as you are, don't get caught up in the stupid labels. Otherwise you become like that ^.[/QUOTE]

Sorry....I forgot to add "Idiot" to #6 on my list.

ucrenegade · 01-01-2009, 07:02 PM

I guess it doesn't matter anyway I believe what the bible says not man.

doggin94it · 01-01-2009, 11:06 PM

[quote=ucrenegade;2947274]how do you tell if you are on the left or right or a consverative. How can you tell if you are republican or a dem. Is thier a test or something? [B]I don't know what i am I usually just like who I think could do the best job.[/B][/quote]

Why in the world would you want to change that?

However, for purposes of self identifying:

[url]http://www.politicalcompass.org/test[/url]

and

[url]http://www.ontheissues.org/quizeng/XPolitics/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y[/url]

PlumberKhan · 01-01-2009, 11:07 PM

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;2948528]I guess it doesn't matter anyway I believe what the bible says not man.[/QUOTE]

Where does the bible stand on eliminating the Federal Reserve?

doggin94it · 01-01-2009, 11:10 PM

[quote=crazyeffinjetsfan;2948497]Sorry....I forgot to add "Idiot" to #6 on my list.[/quote]

Sorry, but anyone who believes "needy" = "lazy" is, in fact, an idiot

ganooch · 01-02-2009, 04:20 PM

Ask yourself this question;

"Do guns kill people? or do people kill people?"

just a simple question to get an idea of your political philosophy

Tyler Durden · 01-02-2009, 04:41 PM

[QUOTE=ganooch;2950037]Ask yourself this question;

"Do guns kill people? or do people kill people?"

just a simple question to get an idea of your political philosophy[/QUOTE]

Um.. both?

ganooch · 01-02-2009, 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2950080]Um.. both?[/QUOTE]

A liberal will say that guns kill people so we must not let the common man possess them.

a conservative will say that it is the man who kills people and the gun is only the median in which to do it.

this is not the be all end all just a philosophical question.

PlumberKhan · 01-02-2009, 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=ganooch;2950037]Ask yourself this question;

"Do guns kill people? or do people kill people?"

just a simple question to get an idea of your political philosophy[/QUOTE]

Hm.

Do weapons of mass destruction kill people or do people kill people?

ganooch · 01-03-2009, 08:38 AM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2950132]Hm.

Do weapons of mass destruction kill people or do people kill people?[/QUOTE]

weapons of mass destruction do not kill people all by themselves. There is always someone behind them, ready to use them.

PlumberKhan · 01-03-2009, 08:47 AM

[QUOTE=ganooch;2950857]weapons of mass destruction do not kill people all by themselves. There is always someone behind them, ready to use them.[/QUOTE]

Good. Then every person has a god given right to procure WMD's right?

ganooch · 01-03-2009, 10:39 AM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2950860]Good. Then every person has a god given right to procure WMD's right?[/QUOTE]

not as per the United States Constitution. Guns yes, nukes, dirty bombs, biological and chemical weapons, no.

ucrenegade · 01-03-2009, 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2948834]Where does the bible stand on eliminating the Federal Reserve?[/QUOTE]

bible says stay away from politics. I am assuming because everything is corrupt and a leader from the USA will lead to the downfall of man and jesus second coming.

12-31-2008, 08:29 PM	#1
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,005	political help how do you tell if you are on the left or right or a consverative. How can you tell if you are republican or a dem. Is thier a test or something? I don't know what i am I usually just like who I think could do the best job.

12-31-2008, 08:47 PM	#2
crazyeffinjetsfan feels like his head is in a popcorn machine. All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Middlesex County, NJ Posts: 3,305	If you: 1. Take responsibility for your own actions 2. Work hard for what you have, like to keep the money you earn and not have it redistributed to the needy (lazy) 3. Believe in social morality 4. Believe that everyone should STFU and live their own lives and stop trying to "change" everything You probably are conservative If you: 1. Have a bleeding heart and feel sorry for the needy (lazy) 2. Believe in Big Government (Socialism) and high taxes 3. Support PETA and Greenpeace 4. Look to sue because you tripped on a crack in the sidewalk and want to blame the City instead of your clumsy ass 5. Wear tie-dye shirt, cargo shorts and Birkenstocks, and protest a lot 6. Think that anyone who thinks conservatively is a caveman, homophobe, fascist, war monger, etc. 7. Believe in the freedom of speech unless that speech differs in opinion from yours 8. Feel like ripping me a new a$$hole for this post You are probably a liberal

12-31-2008, 09:21 PM	#3
Ciaran Practice Squad Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 345	there's this [url=www.politicalcompass.org]political compass[/url] thing that's pretty popular but it's old as **** and even [i]i[/i] think a few of the questions are biased to the left. i'm a (-5.75, -4.5), chillin' in the bottom left with the dalai lama, mandela, kucinich, the canadian ndp and ralph nader. ralph forgot the party favors and we are really upset with him but at the same time too liberal to take any action past the "complaining" stage :(

12-31-2008, 09:50 PM	#4
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,005	lol i am Your political compass Economic Left/Right: -5.50 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.18 left authoritarian

12-31-2008, 10:23 PM	#5
whatthe Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 88	[QUOTE=ucrenegade;2947274]how do you tell if you are on the left or right or a consverative. How can you tell if you are republican or a dem. Is thier a test or something? I don't know what i am I usually just like who I think could do the best job.[/QUOTE] If you think the government should work for the wealthy you are a modern day Republican, if you think the government should work for all the people you are a Democrat

01-01-2009, 02:35 AM	#6
Sharrow Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,710	They're organized groups. You aren't a Democrat or a Republican unless you choose to be. If you're registered to vote, then you should know if you're a democrat, republican, green, independent, etc. If you didn't specify a party when you registered then you're an independent like I am. Regarding the labels, generally you're talking about social and fiscal policy. If you're more for pure freedom, then you're on the socially liberal side, if you're more for "responsible" freedom then you're on the socially conservative side. If you're more for the government helping people then you're on the fiscally liberal side, if you're more for the government staying out of people's business then you're on the fiscally conservative side. Most people aren't all of any one thing, their opinions can be found in all four categories depending on the situation. Which is why, imo, labeling them "conservative" or "liberal" is ridiculous.

01-01-2009, 02:37 AM	#7
Sharrow Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,710	[QUOTE=crazyeffinjetsfan;2947295]If you: 1. Take responsibility for your own actions 2. Work hard for what you have, like to keep the money you earn and not have it redistributed to the needy (lazy) 3. Believe in social morality 4. Believe that everyone should STFU and live their own lives and stop trying to "change" everything You probably are conservative If you: 1. Have a bleeding heart and feel sorry for the needy (lazy) 2. Believe in Big Government (Socialism) and high taxes 3. Support PETA and Greenpeace 4. Look to sue because you tripped on a crack in the sidewalk and want to blame the City instead of your clumsy ass 5. Wear tie-dye shirt, cargo shorts and Birkenstocks, and protest a lot 6. Think that anyone who thinks conservatively is a caveman, homophobe, fascist, war monger, etc. 7. Believe in the freedom of speech unless that speech differs in opinion from yours 8. Feel like ripping me a new a$$hole for this post You are probably a liberal[/QUOTE] And if you truly think any of that, or the opposite of that, then you're neither. You're an idiot. My opinion would be to stay as you are, don't get caught up in the stupid labels. Otherwise you become like that ^.

01-01-2009, 06:45 PM	#8
crazyeffinjetsfan feels like his head is in a popcorn machine. All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Middlesex County, NJ Posts: 3,305	[QUOTE=Sharrow;2947453]And if you truly think any of that, or the opposite of that, then you're neither. You're an idiot. My opinion would be to stay as you are, don't get caught up in the stupid labels. Otherwise you become like that ^.[/QUOTE] Sorry....I forgot to add "Idiot" to #6 on my list.

01-01-2009, 07:02 PM	#9
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,005	I guess it doesn't matter anyway I believe what the bible says not man.

01-01-2009, 11:06 PM	#10
doggin94it Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,421	[quote=ucrenegade;2947274]how do you tell if you are on the left or right or a consverative. How can you tell if you are republican or a dem. Is thier a test or something? [B]I don't know what i am I usually just like who I think could do the best job.[/B][/quote] Why in the world would you want to change that? However, for purposes of self identifying: [url]http://www.politicalcompass.org/test[/url] and [url]http://www.ontheissues.org/quizeng/XPolitics/quiz_main.asp?Page=1&Clear=Y[/url]

01-01-2009, 11:07 PM	#11
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,014	[QUOTE=ucrenegade;2948528]I guess it doesn't matter anyway I believe what the bible says not man.[/QUOTE] Where does the bible stand on eliminating the Federal Reserve?

01-01-2009, 11:10 PM	#12
doggin94it Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,421	[quote=crazyeffinjetsfan;2948497]Sorry....I forgot to add "Idiot" to #6 on my list.[/quote] Sorry, but anyone who believes "needy" = "lazy" is, in fact, an idiot

01-02-2009, 04:20 PM	#13
ganooch Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lynbrook, NY Posts: 307	Ask yourself this question; "Do guns kill people? or do people kill people?" just a simple question to get an idea of your political philosophy

01-02-2009, 04:41 PM	#14
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=ganooch;2950037]Ask yourself this question; "Do guns kill people? or do people kill people?" just a simple question to get an idea of your political philosophy[/QUOTE] Um.. both?

01-02-2009, 04:44 PM	#15
ganooch Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lynbrook, NY Posts: 307	[QUOTE=Tyler Durden;2950080]Um.. both?[/QUOTE] A liberal will say that guns kill people so we must not let the common man possess them. a conservative will say that it is the man who kills people and the gun is only the median in which to do it. this is not the be all end all just a philosophical question.

01-02-2009, 05:13 PM	#16
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,014	[QUOTE=ganooch;2950037]Ask yourself this question; "Do guns kill people? or do people kill people?" just a simple question to get an idea of your political philosophy[/QUOTE] Hm. Do weapons of mass destruction kill people or do people kill people?

01-03-2009, 08:38 AM	#17
ganooch Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lynbrook, NY Posts: 307	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2950132]Hm. Do weapons of mass destruction kill people or do people kill people?[/QUOTE] weapons of mass destruction do not kill people all by themselves. There is always someone behind them, ready to use them.

01-03-2009, 08:47 AM	#18
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,014	[QUOTE=ganooch;2950857]weapons of mass destruction do not kill people all by themselves. There is always someone behind them, ready to use them.[/QUOTE] Good. Then every person has a god given right to procure WMD's right?

01-03-2009, 10:39 AM	#19
ganooch Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lynbrook, NY Posts: 307	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2950860]Good. Then every person has a god given right to procure WMD's right?[/QUOTE] not as per the United States Constitution. Guns yes, nukes, dirty bombs, biological and chemical weapons, no.

01-03-2009, 03:16 PM	#20
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,005	[QUOTE=PlumberKhan;2948834]Where does the bible stand on eliminating the Federal Reserve?[/QUOTE] bible says stay away from politics. I am assuming because everything is corrupt and a leader from the USA will lead to the downfall of man and jesus second coming.