Is Alabama's championship as valid as Jets making playoffs? Or, did both "back in"? - Jets Insider.com Forums

jetstream23 · 01-08-2010, 02:04 AM

So Alabama faces a team who loses it's starting QB in the 1st quarter and essentially rides a defense and running game to victory while handcuffing its QB. The Crimson Tide's QB threw the ball for a grand total of....58 yards on 6 of 11 passing with 0 TD and 0 INT.

Does this kinda game sound a little familiar??? Sure, Texas didn't lose its starting QB by choice, but for a while there a freshman QB had Texas within 4 points with less than 4 minutes to play. Shouldn't have Alabama been cruising at that point?

Two key differences between the Jets/Cincinnati game last week and Alabama/Texas from tonight:

1. The Bengals QB, Carson Palmer, played into the 2nd half.
2. The Bengals scored ZERO points all game.

Other than that, this almost looked like a textbook Jets kinda game - Minimize the QB, rush the snot outta the ball, and rely on good defense.

So, if the Jets didn't "earn" their victory last Sunday night according to the national media

either did Alabama tonight in my opinion!

SenorGato · 01-08-2010, 02:11 AM

They injured the starter. Injuries are a part of the game...

Wall Street · 01-08-2010, 02:25 AM

"Backing in" means losing and still getting in. You can't back into a championship.

The Jets didn't lose and get in the playoffs on some weird rule or tiebreaker. They won games.

NYJ37/12 · 01-08-2010, 08:51 AM

I was thinking the same watching the game last night. I wonder what fatboy would say about this. Does it "count".

By the way, how soft is Colt McCoy? Not wanting back in the game for fear he could hurt his NFL career. Bad.

Mario · 01-08-2010, 08:59 AM

Well Bama went 13-0 and whipped #1 Florida in the SEC championship. They deserved the title last night

Texas should have been better prepared, end of story.

NewYorkSackExchange · 01-08-2010, 09:00 AM

HUH???? The Jets won games! The beat the snot out of the Texans. ...pounced on Manning and Cincy. ..they won the games they needed to. They beat 7 500 or above team this year. Backing into the playoffs is a Herm-esq term. ...Rexy don't back into anything. Go tell Revis he was backed into the playoffs. Go tell Harris. ...tell Jone. ...this team did despite some high TO games, they stepped up to the plate.

VincenzoTestaverde · 01-08-2010, 09:04 AM

Mike Francesca is already prepping his monologue telling us how important it is to understand Alabama doesn't deserve any credit.

sec.101row23 · 01-08-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NYJ37/12

I was thinking the same watching the game last night. I wonder what fatboy would say about this. Does it "count".

By the way, how soft is Colt McCoy? Not wanting back in the game for fear he could hurt his NFL career. Bad.

Where did you come up with that??? He couldn't feel his arm. Had nothing to do with his pro career. You are clueless on this.

FF2® · 01-08-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by NYJ37/12

I was thinking the same watching the game last night. I wonder what fatboy would say about this. Does it "count".

By the way, how soft is Colt McCoy? Not wanting back in the game for fear he could hurt his NFL career. Bad.

McCoy wanted back in. Don't make **** up.

FF2® · 01-08-2010, 09:48 AM

I would say both wins are tainted.

sec.101row23 · 01-08-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FF2®

I would say both wins are tainted.

Alabama's win will always have people saying "what if".

The Jets have a chance on Saturday to "validate" their playoff berth. If they win it will quiet a lot of people saying they do not deserve to be in the playoffs.....Alabama will always have people doubting their title.

eaglenj · 01-08-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NewYorkSackExchange

HUH???? The Jets won games! The beat the snot out of the Texans. ...pounced on Manning and Cincy. ..they won the games they needed to. They beat 7 500 or above team this year. Backing into the playoffs is a Herm-esq term. ...Rexy don't back into anything. Go tell Revis he was backed into the playoffs. Go tell Harris. ...tell Jone. ...this team did despite some high TO games, they stepped up to the plate.

Im surprised this arguement wasnt brought up more....yea the jets blew some games early/mid year and vs atl, but still look at some of their victories.

Houston on road, rookie 1st start
Pats, minus welker, but still a tough game
Tennessee, look how they finished, still a quality win

And most importantly carolina. People considered them a bad team when we beat them, but after that game, they pounded francessas giants, and beat minnesota AND new orleans.

Plus while we did lose the games, all of our losses were close. Im not saying peyton coming out didnt help, but we kept it close enough when he was in, to take advantage when painter came in.

TexJet · 01-08-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by NYJ37/12

I was thinking the same watching the game last night. I wonder what fatboy would say about this. Does it "count".

By the way, how soft is Colt McCoy? Not wanting back in the game for fear he could hurt his NFL career. Bad.

Colt wanted back in the game in the 3rd quarter. Mack Brown would not let him return to play. Get your facts correct before making such an uninformed statement. McCoy is tough and durable. Wonder why he's played and won more games than any other UT QB in history?

HitSomeone41 · 01-08-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Wall Street Superstar

"Backing in" means losing and still getting in. You can't back into a championship.

The Jets didn't lose and get in the playoffs on some weird rule or tiebreaker. They won games.

Exacytly. Backing In to me would be had we lost to the Bengals but still made the playoffs because 4 other teams that needed to lose, lost......thats backing in. So fug the media and the Jets haters.

shakin318 · 01-08-2010, 09:58 AM

After watching the game I have no doubt that Texas would have won by at least a couple of touchdowns if McCoy played the whole game.

TexJet · 01-08-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mario

Well Bama went 13-0 and whipped #1 Florida in the SEC championship. They deserved the title last night

Texas should have been better prepared, end of story.

You're correct sir! Texas should have been more prepared for an injury to their best player. Mack is a dumb a$$.

NYJ37/12 · 01-08-2010, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sec.101row23

Where did you come up with that??? He couldn't feel his arm. Had nothing to do with his pro career. You are clueless on this.

They said it during the game that he was advised against going back in to protect his future. I did not make anything up. I could care a less to be honest.

sec.101row23 · 01-08-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TexJet

Colt wanted back in the game in the 3rd quarter. Mack Brown would not let him return to play. Get your facts correct before making such an uninformed statement. McCoy is tough and durable. Wonder why he's played and won more games than any other UT QB in history?

True.....all you have to do is watch his post-game interview. That should answer any questions about him wanting to get back in the game.

TexJet · 01-08-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by NYJ37/12

They said it during the game that he was advised against going back in to protect his future. I did not make anything up. I could care a less to be honest.

Mack Brown would not let him return to play, period!

On another topic related to the game. If the Jets want a kick-ass slot receiver - look no further than Jordan Shipley. Good size, speed, and great hands. 2nd or, more likely, 3rd rounder in next years draft.

palmetto defender · 01-08-2010, 10:13 AM

Injuries are part of the game. Period. Alabama knocked McCoy out of there. Football is a contact sport - remember.
Of course, the SEC is such a soft conference. 10 teams in bowls. Florida would have beaten Texas as well.
And BTW, McCoy was not that impressive against Nebraska in the Big 12 title game.

01-08-2010, 02:04 AM	#1
jetstream23 recovering from turf toe Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ (New Jets Stadium Section 246) Posts: 31,711	Is Alabama's championship as valid as Jets making playoffs? Or, did both "back in"? So Alabama faces a team who loses it's starting QB in the 1st quarter and essentially rides a defense and running game to victory while handcuffing its QB. The Crimson Tide's QB threw the ball for a grand total of....58 yards on 6 of 11 passing with 0 TD and 0 INT. Does this kinda game sound a little familiar??? Sure, Texas didn't lose its starting QB by choice, but for a while there a freshman QB had Texas within 4 points with less than 4 minutes to play. Shouldn't have Alabama been cruising at that point? Two key differences between the Jets/Cincinnati game last week and Alabama/Texas from tonight: 1. The Bengals QB, Carson Palmer, played into the 2nd half. 2. The Bengals scored ZERO points all game. Other than that, this almost looked like a textbook Jets kinda game - Minimize the QB, rush the snot outta the ball, and rely on good defense. So, if the Jets didn't "earn" their victory last Sunday night according to the national media either did Alabama tonight in my opinion!

01-08-2010, 02:11 AM	#2
SenorGato still a little buzzed. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,281	They injured the starter. Injuries are a part of the game...

01-08-2010, 02:25 AM	#3
Wall Street $$$$$ Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: SI NY Posts: 823	"Backing in" means losing and still getting in. You can't back into a championship. The Jets didn't lose and get in the playoffs on some weird rule or tiebreaker. They won games.

01-08-2010, 08:51 AM	#4
NYJ37/12 All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,695	I was thinking the same watching the game last night. I wonder what fatboy would say about this. Does it "count". By the way, how soft is Colt McCoy? Not wanting back in the game for fear he could hurt his NFL career. Bad.

01-08-2010, 08:59 AM	#5
Mario Veteran Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 1,987	Well Bama went 13-0 and whipped #1 Florida in the SEC championship. They deserved the title last night Texas should have been better prepared, end of story.

01-08-2010, 09:00 AM	#6
NewYorkSackExchange Dear Lord, please allow the Jets to win on Sunday, OH please, please Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,462	HUH???? The Jets won games! The beat the snot out of the Texans. ...pounced on Manning and Cincy. ..they won the games they needed to. They beat 7 500 or above team this year. Backing into the playoffs is a Herm-esq term. ...Rexy don't back into anything. Go tell Revis he was backed into the playoffs. Go tell Harris. ...tell Jone. ...this team did despite some high TO games, they stepped up to the plate.

01-08-2010, 09:04 AM	#7
VincenzoTestaverde laughing at the Pledge Against America Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 9,162	Mike Francesca is already prepping his monologue telling us how important it is to understand Alabama doesn't deserve any credit.

01-08-2010, 09:48 AM	#10
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,590	I would say both wins are tainted.

01-08-2010, 09:58 AM	#15
shakin318 all your post counts are belong to us Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Funkytown Posts: 7,254	After watching the game I have no doubt that Texas would have won by at least a couple of touchdowns if McCoy played the whole game.

01-08-2010, 10:13 AM	#20
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,850	Injuries are part of the game. Period. Alabama knocked McCoy out of there. Football is a contact sport - remember. Of course, the SEC is such a soft conference. 10 teams in bowls. Florida would have beaten Texas as well. And BTW, McCoy was not that impressive against Nebraska in the Big 12 title game.