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Savage69 · 03-07-2010, 06:06 PM

[QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518144][B][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]i call bull spit..[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B]

you don't even remeber what kinda ball player aaron glenn was..[/QUOTE]

You think he was the hardest hitting corner ever and I thought he was a excellent cover corner and Kick returner.. Johnny Sample hit alot harder then Glenn ever did..:yes:

jetgreen13 · 03-07-2010, 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=Savage69;3518150]You think he was the hardest hitting corner ever and I thought he was a excellent cover corner and Kick returner.. Johnny Sample hit alot harder then Glenn ever did..:yes:[/QUOTE]
[B]johnny sample??[/B]

i'm not even that old 69.. :D

i do think he was like revis..

just not as talented..

Savage69 · 03-07-2010, 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518152][B]johnny sample??[/B]

i'm not even that old 69.. :D

i do think he was like revis..

just not as talented..[/QUOTE]

Glenn was excellent but Revis is a rare talent you don't see often he's on his own planet..

jetgreen13 · 03-07-2010, 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=Savage69;3518158]Glenn was excellent but Revis is a rare talent you don't see often he's on [B]his own planet[/B]..[/QUOTE]
[B][COLOR="SeaGreen"]or island at least..[/COLOR][/B]

sameoldjets · 03-07-2010, 06:32 PM

right and look who cromartie did play for. marty schot and then norv turner. anyone thinks they know where norv's head is? this is what should make the cromartie trade a good one.

[QUOTE=Flaming Mo;3517970]The thing about Cromartie is that he hasn't played for Rex yet. Rhodes had a chance to prove himself and he didn't. He had enough opportunities and he didn't bring what Rex expected him to bring. Plus we don't know what Rhodes did behind closed doors. Judging from some articles and tweets (small sample size I'll admit that) he wasn't really a good soldier. Cromartie comes in with a clean slate and he has a chance to prove himself to Rex. I think Ryan has proven that he can get the most out of "HIS" guys...[/QUOTE]

jetsonly · 03-07-2010, 08:17 PM

[QUOTE=Savage69;3518150]You think he was the hardest hitting corner ever and I thought he was a excellent cover corner and Kick returner.. Johnny Sample hit alot harder then Glenn ever did..:yes:[/QUOTE]

Wow, Johnny Sample. Now that brings back memories. Thanks man:)
Talk about smash mouth football. That team broght it baby.

JStokes · 03-07-2010, 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518042]

i have much more respect for corners that play like football players instead of divas..

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518139]heart travels fellas..

heart is not about throwing a pick at the worst possible time..

i am talking about a guy who simply had no interest in making the the 2 biggest tackles of his life..[/QUOTE]

You have no idea what you are talking about. You are trying to compare Kerry Rhodes--a Safety--to Antonio Cromartie--a Cornerback.

No idea.

[QUOTE=WestCoastOffensive;3518131]He's a corner that can jam people at the line;

.[/QUOTE]

YOU have a VERY good idea what you are talking about.

:yes:

Geez, 13, give it up. I think you are severely confused.

sg3 · 03-07-2010, 09:10 PM

summary

adding cro for lito and a 3 or 2 next year was a huge upgrade for the Jet defense

subtracting Sherry for a 4 and a 7 next year was a huge upgrade for the Jet defense

jetgreen13 · 03-07-2010, 11:08 PM

[QUOTE=JStokes;3518233][B]You have no idea what you are talking about. You are trying to compare Kerry Rhodes--a Safety--to Antonio Cromartie--a Cornerback. [/B]
No idea.

YOU have a VERY good idea what you are talking about.

:yes:

Geez, 13, give it up. I think you are severely confused.[/QUOTE]
look, i maybe nuts but not because i think a CB ([B]yes a CB[/B]) should be ready, willing & able to tackle..

confused my a**!!

chesapeakejet · 03-08-2010, 09:12 AM

[QUOTE=JStokes;3517996]Soon to be HOF, one of the greatest CBs in history Deion Sanders says hi.

:wave2:[/QUOTE]

One of the greatest CB's that wouldn't tackle. :yes:

chesapeakejet · 03-08-2010, 09:13 AM

[QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518346]look, i maybe nuts but not because i think a CB ([B]yes a CB[/B]) should be ready, willing & able to tackle..

confused my a**!![/QUOTE]

To your point, Lester Hayes was a CB who loved to hit and tackle.

bitonti · 03-08-2010, 09:18 AM

it is kinda funny that people think this is about tackling skills.

Cro is getting 1.2 million this year... Rhodes was due to get about 5 in salary and bonus. This was a pure money save move. Rhodes is still a good football player, they just wanted to save money. The only person who has gotten anything from the JEts in the last 6 weeks is Nick Folk.

jetswin · 03-08-2010, 09:22 AM

[QUOTE=bitonti;3518542]it is kinda funny that people think this is about tackling skills.

Cro is getting 1.2 million this year... Rhodes was due to get about 5 in salary and bonus. This was a pure money save move. Rhodes is still a good football player, they just wanted to save money. The only person who has gotten anything from the JEts in the last 6 weeks is Nick Folk.[/QUOTE]
That may have something to do with it, I agree, but I still think the Jets are willing to give money to people they feel are worth money. That being said the Jets secondary will look very different next season in that we won't see a safety lining up 20-25 yards off the ball anymore with Cro and Revis at CB.

el_dub80 · 03-08-2010, 09:44 AM

[QUOTE=sg3;3518266]summary

adding cro for lito and a 3 or 2 next year was a huge upgrade for the Jet defense

subtracting Sherry for a 4 and a 7 next year was a huge upgrade for the Jet defense[/QUOTE]

+1

:yes:

southside · 03-08-2010, 09:58 AM

[QUOTE=jetswin;3518545]That may have something to do with it, I agree, but I still think the Jets are willing to give money to people they feel are worth money. That being said the Jets secondary will look very different next season in that we won't see a safety lining up 20-25 yards off the ball anymore with Cro and Revis at CB.[/QUOTE]

+1

I can't wait to have a Safety who's actually active in the play. If we can find someone who resembles Polamalu's style of play that would be great. But I'd settle for a solid safety who's ready to make big plays at a very important position in Rex's defense. Obviously that wasn't what Kerry Rhodes has in mind.

SONNY WERBLIN · 03-08-2010, 10:01 AM

Bottom line. Which secondary is better?

1) Rhoads, Leonard, Revis, and Lowery/or rookie CB drafted with 29th pick

or

2) Leonard, Revis, Cromartie, and Smith/or rookie S drafted with 29th pick

IMO it's a no-brainer the upgrade at #2 CB is substantial while the downgrade in production from Rhoads to Smith is not so much. The loss of Rhoads may be apparent when the Jets do not have him to cover a team's all-pro TE, but I do believe the Jets will scheme to have Cromartie assume that coverage since he has the size to do so.

Finally, I think the comparison of Cromartie and Rhoads as "underacheivers" is very interesting when you consider that Rhoads failed to impress when asked to "do more", while Cromartie had a problem with being asked to "do less" by playing zone coverage rather than man.

acepepe · 03-08-2010, 11:21 AM

[QUOTE=SONNY WERBLIN;3518581]Bottom line. Which secondary is better?

1) Rhoads, Leonard, Revis, and Lowery/or rookie CB drafted with 29th pick

or

2) Leonard, Revis, Cromartie, and Smith/or rookie S drafted with 29th pick

IMO it's a no-brainer the upgrade at #2 CB is substantial while the downgrade in production from Rhoads to Smith is not so much. The loss of Rhoads may be apparent when the Jets do not have him to cover a team's all-pro TE, but I do believe the Jets will scheme to have Cromartie assume that coverage since he has the size to do so.

Finally, I think the comparison of Cromartie and Rhoads as "underacheivers" is very interesting when you consider that Rhoads failed to impress when asked to "do more", while Cromartie had a problem with being asked to "do less" by playing zone coverage rather than man.[/QUOTE]

Good post Sonny

03-07-2010, 11:08 PM	#49
jetgreen13 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: transplanted new yorker in maryland Posts: 4,438	[QUOTE=JStokes;3518233][B]You have no idea what you are talking about. You are trying to compare Kerry Rhodes--a Safety--to Antonio Cromartie--a Cornerback. [/B] No idea. YOU have a VERY good idea what you are talking about. :yes: Geez, 13, give it up. I think you are severely confused.[/QUOTE] look, i maybe nuts but not because i think a CB ([B]yes a CB[/B]) should be ready, willing & able to tackle.. confused my a*!! Last edited by jetgreen13; 03-08-2010 at 12:00 AM.*

03-07-2010, 06:06 PM	#41
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,240	[QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518144][B][SIZE="4"][COLOR="Red"]i call bull spit..[/COLOR][/SIZE][/B] you don't even remeber what kinda ball player aaron glenn was..[/QUOTE] You think he was the hardest hitting corner ever and I thought he was a excellent cover corner and Kick returner.. Johnny Sample hit alot harder then Glenn ever did..:yes:

03-07-2010, 06:13 PM	#42
jetgreen13 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: transplanted new yorker in maryland Posts: 4,438	[QUOTE=Savage69;3518150]You think he was the hardest hitting corner ever and I thought he was a excellent cover corner and Kick returner.. Johnny Sample hit alot harder then Glenn ever did..:yes:[/QUOTE] [B]johnny sample??[/B] i'm not even that old 69.. :D i do think he was like revis.. just not as talented..

03-07-2010, 06:22 PM	#43
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,240	[QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518152][B]johnny sample??[/B] i'm not even that old 69.. :D i do think he was like revis.. just not as talented..[/QUOTE] Glenn was excellent but Revis is a rare talent you don't see often he's on his own planet..

03-07-2010, 06:28 PM	#44
jetgreen13 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: transplanted new yorker in maryland Posts: 4,438	[QUOTE=Savage69;3518158]Glenn was excellent but Revis is a rare talent you don't see often he's on [B]his own planet[/B]..[/QUOTE] [B][COLOR="SeaGreen"]or island at least..[/COLOR][/B]

03-07-2010, 06:32 PM	#45
sameoldjets All Pro Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,477	right and look who cromartie did play for. marty schot and then norv turner. anyone thinks they know where norv's head is? this is what should make the cromartie trade a good one. [QUOTE=Flaming Mo;3517970]The thing about Cromartie is that he hasn't played for Rex yet. Rhodes had a chance to prove himself and he didn't. He had enough opportunities and he didn't bring what Rex expected him to bring. Plus we don't know what Rhodes did behind closed doors. Judging from some articles and tweets (small sample size I'll admit that) he wasn't really a good soldier. Cromartie comes in with a clean slate and he has a chance to prove himself to Rex. I think Ryan has proven that he can get the most out of "HIS" guys...[/QUOTE]

03-07-2010, 08:17 PM	#46
jetsonly Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 676	[QUOTE=Savage69;3518150]You think he was the hardest hitting corner ever and I thought he was a excellent cover corner and Kick returner.. Johnny Sample hit alot harder then Glenn ever did..:yes:[/QUOTE] Wow, Johnny Sample. Now that brings back memories. Thanks man:) Talk about smash mouth football. That team broght it baby.

03-07-2010, 08:25 PM	#47
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	[QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518042] i have much more respect for corners that play like football players instead of divas.. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518139]heart travels fellas.. heart is not about throwing a pick at the worst possible time.. i am talking about a guy who simply had no interest in making the the 2 biggest tackles of his life..[/QUOTE] You have no idea what you are talking about. You are trying to compare Kerry Rhodes--a Safety--to Antonio Cromartie--a Cornerback. No idea. [QUOTE=WestCoastOffensive;3518131]He's a corner that can jam people at the line; .[/QUOTE] YOU have a VERY good idea what you are talking about. :yes: Geez, 13, give it up. I think you are severely confused.

03-07-2010, 09:10 PM	#48
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,342	summary adding cro for lito and a 3 or 2 next year was a huge upgrade for the Jet defense subtracting Sherry for a 4 and a 7 next year was a huge upgrade for the Jet defense

03-08-2010, 09:12 AM	#50
chesapeakejet is a geek who loves football boardgames. Schluberator & Gadfly ® Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 24,502	[QUOTE=JStokes;3517996]Soon to be HOF, one of the greatest CBs in history Deion Sanders says hi. :wave2:[/QUOTE] One of the greatest CB's that wouldn't tackle. :yes:

03-08-2010, 09:13 AM	#51
chesapeakejet is a geek who loves football boardgames. Schluberator & Gadfly ® Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 24,502	[QUOTE=jetgreen13;3518346]look, i maybe nuts but not because i think a CB ([B]yes a CB[/B]) should be ready, willing & able to tackle.. confused my a**!![/QUOTE] To your point, Lester Hayes was a CB who loved to hit and tackle.

03-08-2010, 09:18 AM	#52
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	it is kinda funny that people think this is about tackling skills. Cro is getting 1.2 million this year... Rhodes was due to get about 5 in salary and bonus. This was a pure money save move. Rhodes is still a good football player, they just wanted to save money. The only person who has gotten anything from the JEts in the last 6 weeks is Nick Folk.

03-08-2010, 09:22 AM	#53
jetswin stumblin mumblin butt fumblin Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Westchester Co. Posts: 35,458	[QUOTE=bitonti;3518542]it is kinda funny that people think this is about tackling skills. Cro is getting 1.2 million this year... Rhodes was due to get about 5 in salary and bonus. This was a pure money save move. Rhodes is still a good football player, they just wanted to save money. The only person who has gotten anything from the JEts in the last 6 weeks is Nick Folk.[/QUOTE] That may have something to do with it, I agree, but I still think the Jets are willing to give money to people they feel are worth money. That being said the Jets secondary will look very different next season in that we won't see a safety lining up 20-25 yards off the ball anymore with Cro and Revis at CB.

03-08-2010, 09:44 AM	#54
el_dub80 With the 1st pick of the 2014 draft, the NY Jets select ... All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,294	[QUOTE=sg3;3518266]summary adding cro for lito and a 3 or 2 next year was a huge upgrade for the Jet defense subtracting Sherry for a 4 and a 7 next year was a huge upgrade for the Jet defense[/QUOTE] +1 :yes:

03-08-2010, 09:58 AM	#55
southside Forever Awesome All Pro Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,884	[QUOTE=jetswin;3518545]That may have something to do with it, I agree, but I still think the Jets are willing to give money to people they feel are worth money. That being said the Jets secondary will look very different next season in that we won't see a safety lining up 20-25 yards off the ball anymore with Cro and Revis at CB.[/QUOTE] +1 I can't wait to have a Safety who's actually active in the play. If we can find someone who resembles Polamalu's style of play that would be great. But I'd settle for a solid safety who's ready to make big plays at a very important position in Rex's defense. Obviously that wasn't what Kerry Rhodes has in mind.

03-08-2010, 10:01 AM	#56
SONNY WERBLIN Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,355	Bottom line. Which secondary is better? 1) Rhoads, Leonard, Revis, and Lowery/or rookie CB drafted with 29th pick or 2) Leonard, Revis, Cromartie, and Smith/or rookie S drafted with 29th pick IMO it's a no-brainer the upgrade at #2 CB is substantial while the downgrade in production from Rhoads to Smith is not so much. The loss of Rhoads may be apparent when the Jets do not have him to cover a team's all-pro TE, but I do believe the Jets will scheme to have Cromartie assume that coverage since he has the size to do so. Finally, I think the comparison of Cromartie and Rhoads as "underacheivers" is very interesting when you consider that Rhoads failed to impress when asked to "do more", while Cromartie had a problem with being asked to "do less" by playing zone coverage rather than man.

03-08-2010, 11:21 AM	#57
acepepe All League Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,427	[QUOTE=SONNY WERBLIN;3518581]Bottom line. Which secondary is better? 1) Rhoads, Leonard, Revis, and Lowery/or rookie CB drafted with 29th pick or 2) Leonard, Revis, Cromartie, and Smith/or rookie S drafted with 29th pick IMO it's a no-brainer the upgrade at #2 CB is substantial while the downgrade in production from Rhoads to Smith is not so much. The loss of Rhoads may be apparent when the Jets do not have him to cover a team's all-pro TE, but I do believe the Jets will scheme to have Cromartie assume that coverage since he has the size to do so. Finally, I think the comparison of Cromartie and Rhoads as "underacheivers" is very interesting when you consider that Rhoads failed to impress when asked to "do more", while Cromartie had a problem with being asked to "do less" by playing zone coverage rather than man.[/QUOTE] Good post Sonny