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Kentucky Jet · 03-29-2010, 04:55 PM

The Jet Stream
by Rich Cimini
March 29, 2010 10:24 AM 47 Comments
Breaking out the crystal ball for draft day »
By Rich Cimini

Here we go again, the fourth annual Jet Stream draft watch. Over the next 24 days, right up until the April 22 draft, we will provide a periodic look at the players we deem most likely to be chosen by the Jets with the 29th pick. If history repeats, this initial list might not be such a shot in the dark.

Consider the Jet Stream's initial "watch" list in each of the previous three seasons:

2007 (25th pick) -- CB Aaron Ross, TE Greg Olsen, LB Anthony Spencer, LB Paul Posluszny and CB Darrelle Revis.

Outcome: The Jets trade up to 14 to select Revis.

2008 (6th pick) -- RB Darren McFadden, LB/DE Vernon Gholston and DE Chris Long.

Outcome: The Jets take Gholston at No. 6.

2009 (17th pick) -- WR Jeremy Maclin, DE Tyson Jackson and QB Josh Freeman.

Outcome: The Jets trade up to 5, picking QB Mark Sanchez. Okay, you can't win 'em all, but who could've imagined that Eric Mangini would give away the fifth pick for practically nothing?

Because they're picking so low, this year will be the toughest challenge yet. But here goes nothing:

1. DE Jared Odrick, Penn State (6-5, 304) -- The Jets have four returning defensive linemen with legit experience, and three (Shaun Ellis, Kris Jenkins and Sione Pouha) are at least 30. Jenkins is returning from major knee surgery, Ellis has a bad knee and UFA Marques Douglas is unlikely to re-sign, based on what Rex Ryan was saying last week. It's time for some fresh blood here. Odrick is valuable because he can play in multiple fronts. He's scheduled to visit the Jets on April 5 and 6.

2. S Taylor Mays, USC (6-3, 230) -- The Jets didn't break the bank for Brodney Pool (one year, $1.3 million), so it's not like they're handing him Kerry Rhodes' old starting job. Mays was a highly decorated college player and he reportedly ran in the 4.2s at the combine, but beware: Based on what some scouts are saying, he could be the Vernon Gholston of safeties -- off-the-charts measurables, but athletically stiff.

3. G Mike Iupati, Idaho (6-5, 331) -- Just a hunch based on value. It would be drafting to a strength, but we all know how much Ryan values his O-line.

4. WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State (6-2, 225) -- It's unlikely the Jets will take a receiver in the first round, but if the ultra-talented Bryant falls because of off-the-field concerns, I could see them scooping him up. Bryant's Pro Day is tomorrow, which should clarify his status -- maybe. The Jets have good money invested in receivers Jerricho Cotchery and Braylon Edwards, but Edwards probably will play on a one-year deal and could bolt in 2011.

5. DE Corey Wootton, Northwestern (6-6, 270) -- A Jersey kid (Don Bosco Prep) who is a borderline first/second rounder. He has the ideal frame to play end in a 34 front. He got off to a slow start last season because he blew out his knee in the 2008 Alamo Bowl, but he has the physical attributes and the intangibles to be a good one.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jet...#ixzz0jbJsP4c4

dassin · 03-29-2010, 04:59 PM

Numero Dos.

Revi$_I$l@nd · 03-29-2010, 05:00 PM

He wants to take credit for throwing sh!t at the wall and hoping it sticks?

If they take Odrick, I'm fine with that.

Bryant isn't falling.

Iupati is solid but unlikely (especially if you ask Bitoni

)

Mays should be a hell no.

And we're not taking Corey friggin Wootton if we stay at #29.

Savage69 · 03-29-2010, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dassin

Numero Dos.

Vernon Gholston of safeties ????

Paradis · 03-29-2010, 05:01 PM

heaven help me.. Wootton.

manmrmoore · 03-29-2010, 05:03 PM

I love to get Taylor Mays and somehow get Golden Tate too

Kentucky Jet · 03-29-2010, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage69

Vernon Gholston of safeties ????

I agree with you. I'd love a pass rusher at 29. HUGHES? He is gaining daily with me. He is intense.

Baddniss · 03-29-2010, 05:07 PM

In spite of the fact that Dr Baddniss thinks that DE Cory Wooten WILL be the Jets pick at #29, JI locals like the revered Dr Matt Bitonti, MD (a doctor of draftology here at JI) say no chance to that pick because of Wootens previous knee injury.

Notwithstanding that SAFETY is a HUGE need for us (right away), USC's Taylor Mays aint our guy! Sorry to tell all of you that. He simply doesnt have the deep cover skills that a safety needs in todays NFL. Many of you confuse "speed" with "cover skills". There are better Safety picks for us, who can cover. Both E.Smith & Ihedigbo can hit. We need pass coverage.I have watched him (Mays) out here every Saturday for the past 2 years. Hitter...yes.
Deep pass coverage/ free safety interceptions?...no.

Revi$_I$l@nd · 03-29-2010, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baddniss

In spite of the fact that Dr Baddniss thinks that DE Cory Wooten WILL be the Jets pick at #29, JI locals like the revered Dr Matt Bitonti, MD (a doctor of draftology here at JI) say no chance to that pick because of Wootens previous knee injury.

Notwithstanding that SAFETY is a HUGE need for us (right away), USC's Taylor Mays aint our guy! Sorry to tell all of you that. He simply doesnt have the deep cover skills that a safety needs in todays NFL. Many of you confuse "speed" with "cover skills". There are better Safety picks for us, who can cover. Both E.Smith & Hedegbo can hit. We need pass coverage.

Wootton and Ihedigbo (Or Dig if you prefer

)

Jordy · 03-29-2010, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baddniss

In spite of the fact that Dr Baddniss thinks that DE Cory Wooten WILL be the Jets pick at #29, JI locals like the revered Dr Matt Bitonti, MD (a doctor of draftology here at JI) say no chance to that pick because of Wootens previous knee injury.

Notwithstanding that SAFETY is a HUGE need for us (right away), USC's Taylor Mays aint our guy! Sorry to tell all of you that. He simply doesnt have the deep cover skills that a safety needs in todays NFL. Many of you confuse "speed" with "cover skills". There are better Safety picks for us, who can cover. Both E.Smith & Ihedigbo can hit. We need pass coverage.I have watched him (Mays) out here every Saturday for the past 2 years. Hitter...yes.
Deep pass coverage/ free safety interceptions?...no.

Agreed. Mays is being compared to Roy Williams. Big hitter, limited cover/ballhawking skills. Mayock is suggesting that he may eventually be converted to LB. I hope it's a NO.

woodside · 03-29-2010, 05:44 PM

News Flash. Rich Cimini predicts that the jets will pick someone in the first round of the draft. Cimini is staking his reputation on it, unless of course the jets trade back.

VERMONT JET · 03-29-2010, 06:16 PM

Just say no to Mays in the first round.

bitonti · 03-29-2010, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baddniss

JI locals like the revered Dr Matt Bitonti, MD (a doctor of draftology here at JI) say no chance to that pick because of Wootens previous knee injury.
.

lol i never said "no chance" he's just not my favorite player at that 29 spot. he could very well be there at 61... and its very possible the Jets like him more than I do...

Wallace Wright · 03-29-2010, 06:50 PM

1) Mays
2) D. Thomas
3) Kindle
4) Odrick
5) Hughes

That's my board. I don't think Mays, Kindle, or Odrick will be there though.

SantanaMoss83 · 03-29-2010, 07:14 PM

looks like he stole it off my Blog!

hatnlvr · 03-29-2010, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dassin

Numero Dos.

+1
A playmaking, hard smashing Safety!!

VincenzoTestaverde · 03-29-2010, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordy

Agreed. Mays is being compared to Roy Williams. Big hitter, limited cover/ballhawking skills. Mayock is suggesting that he may eventually be converted to LB. I hope it's a NO.

With Rex's schemes we need DBs who can cover. We can do a lot worse than Mays but he's not very good in coverage.

Come Back to NY · 03-29-2010, 08:41 PM

LMAO...

Quote:

Originally Posted by VincenzoTestaverde

With Rex's schemes we need DBs who can cover. We can do a lot worse than Mays but he's not very good in coverage.

they could? like who??? name them.....

SMC · 03-29-2010, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hatnlvr

+1
A playmaking, hard smashing Safety!!

Too bad Mays doesn't make plays.

The guy has 2 Ints in 3 years. What "plays" do you think Mays will make in the pros when he didn't make plays at USC?

SenorGato · 03-29-2010, 09:12 PM

I'd really only be truly happy with Bryant or Iupati of those 5, which means those 2 are the ones we have no shot at getting. I really can't believe this "Bryant falling out of the top 10" thing is so strong publically as if there's any shot of that actually happening.

I wouldn't mind gambling on Taylor Mays, but with this whole "high draft picks must be stars yesterday" mentality going around I don't think it'd go over all that well. I really f*ckin hate that mentality...seriously...like with a f*cking passion....people buy that garbage as if that's how sh*t has ever worked.

03-29-2010, 04:55 PM	#1
Kentucky Jet A NY JETS fan! Go Jets! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ormond Beach, Florida Posts: 10,872	Cimini breaks out the Crystal Ball for Draft Day The Jet Stream by Rich Cimini March 29, 2010 10:24 AM 47 Comments Breaking out the crystal ball for draft day » By Rich Cimini Here we go again, the fourth annual Jet Stream draft watch. Over the next 24 days, right up until the April 22 draft, we will provide a periodic look at the players we deem most likely to be chosen by the Jets with the 29th pick. If history repeats, this initial list might not be such a shot in the dark. Consider the Jet Stream's initial "watch" list in each of the previous three seasons: 2007 (25th pick) -- CB Aaron Ross, TE Greg Olsen, LB Anthony Spencer, LB Paul Posluszny and CB Darrelle Revis. Outcome: The Jets trade up to 14 to select Revis. 2008 (6th pick) -- RB Darren McFadden, LB/DE Vernon Gholston and DE Chris Long. Outcome: The Jets take Gholston at No. 6. 2009 (17th pick) -- WR Jeremy Maclin, DE Tyson Jackson and QB Josh Freeman. Outcome: The Jets trade up to 5, picking QB Mark Sanchez. Okay, you can't win 'em all, but who could've imagined that Eric Mangini would give away the fifth pick for practically nothing? Because they're picking so low, this year will be the toughest challenge yet. But here goes nothing: 1. DE Jared Odrick, Penn State (6-5, 304) -- The Jets have four returning defensive linemen with legit experience, and three (Shaun Ellis, Kris Jenkins and Sione Pouha) are at least 30. Jenkins is returning from major knee surgery, Ellis has a bad knee and UFA Marques Douglas is unlikely to re-sign, based on what Rex Ryan was saying last week. It's time for some fresh blood here. Odrick is valuable because he can play in multiple fronts. He's scheduled to visit the Jets on April 5 and 6. 2. S Taylor Mays, USC (6-3, 230) -- The Jets didn't break the bank for Brodney Pool (one year, $1.3 million), so it's not like they're handing him Kerry Rhodes' old starting job. Mays was a highly decorated college player and he reportedly ran in the 4.2s at the combine, but beware: Based on what some scouts are saying, he could be the Vernon Gholston of safeties -- off-the-charts measurables, but athletically stiff. 3. G Mike Iupati, Idaho (6-5, 331) -- Just a hunch based on value. It would be drafting to a strength, but we all know how much Ryan values his O-line. 4. WR Dez Bryant, Oklahoma State (6-2, 225) -- It's unlikely the Jets will take a receiver in the first round, but if the ultra-talented Bryant falls because of off-the-field concerns, I could see them scooping him up. Bryant's Pro Day is tomorrow, which should clarify his status -- maybe. The Jets have good money invested in receivers Jerricho Cotchery and Braylon Edwards, but Edwards probably will play on a one-year deal and could bolt in 2011. 5. DE Corey Wootton, Northwestern (6-6, 270) -- A Jersey kid (Don Bosco Prep) who is a borderline first/second rounder. He has the ideal frame to play end in a 34 front. He got off to a slow start last season because he blew out his knee in the 2008 Alamo Bowl, but he has the physical attributes and the intangibles to be a good one. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jet...#ixzz0jbJsP4c4

03-29-2010, 05:07 PM	#8
Baddniss Hall of Fame...First Ballot Inductee...Canton,Ohio...2009 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,488	In spite of the fact that Dr Baddniss thinks that DE Cory Wooten WILL be the Jets pick at #29, JI locals like the revered Dr Matt Bitonti, MD (a doctor of draftology here at JI) say no chance to that pick because of Wootens previous knee injury. Notwithstanding that SAFETY is a HUGE need for us (right away), USC's Taylor Mays aint our guy! Sorry to tell all of you that. He simply doesnt have the deep cover skills that a safety needs in todays NFL. Many of you confuse "speed" with "cover skills". There are better Safety picks for us, who can cover. Both E.Smith & Ihedigbo can hit. We need pass coverage.I have watched him (Mays) out here every Saturday for the past 2 years. Hitter...yes. Deep pass coverage/ free safety interceptions?...no. Last edited by Baddniss; 03-29-2010 at 05:13 PM.

03-29-2010, 04:59 PM	#2
dassin All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,001	Numero Dos.

03-29-2010, 05:00 PM	#3
Revi$_I$l@nd is Cro-ing H.A.M...Whatever that means Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,489	He wants to take credit for throwing sh!t at the wall and hoping it sticks? If they take Odrick, I'm fine with that. Bryant isn't falling. Iupati is solid but unlikely (especially if you ask Bitoni ) Mays should be a hell no. And we're not taking Corey friggin Wootton if we stay at #29.

03-29-2010, 05:01 PM	#5
Paradis Is waiting for Ryan Mallet All Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the 80s Posts: 7,107	heaven help me.. Wootton.

03-29-2010, 05:03 PM	#6
manmrmoore CANT WAIT All Pro Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Indianapolis,Ind Posts: 1,692	I love to get Taylor Mays and somehow get Golden Tate too

03-29-2010, 05:44 PM	#11
woodside Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,191	News Flash. Rich Cimini predicts that the jets will pick someone in the first round of the draft. Cimini is staking his reputation on it, unless of course the jets trade back.

03-29-2010, 06:16 PM	#12
VERMONT JET BY DEMONS BE DRIVEN !! Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BURLINGTON, VERMONT Posts: 1,000	Just say no to Mays in the first round.

03-29-2010, 06:50 PM	#14
Wallace Wright Come at the King, You Best Not Miss. All Pro Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,315	1) Mays 2) D. Thomas 3) Kindle 4) Odrick 5) Hughes That's my board. I don't think Mays, Kindle, or Odrick will be there though.

03-29-2010, 07:14 PM	#15
SantanaMoss83 All League Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 608	looks like he stole it off my Blog!

03-29-2010, 09:12 PM	#20
SenorGato still a little buzzed. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,281	I'd really only be truly happy with Bryant or Iupati of those 5, which means those 2 are the ones we have no shot at getting. I really can't believe this "Bryant falling out of the top 10" thing is so strong publically as if there's any shot of that actually happening. I wouldn't mind gambling on Taylor Mays, but with this whole "high draft picks must be stars yesterday" mentality going around I don't think it'd go over all that well. I really fckin hate that mentality...seriously...like with a fcking passion....people buy that garbage as if that's how sh*t has ever worked.