NFL.com: Jets Will Struggle to be Elite Unless Sanchez Improves Accuracy - Jets Insider.com Forums

jxc · 11-01-2010, 08:34 PM

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My father is 83 years old, still cuts hair every day and loves the New York Yankees. But he really loves the 40's version of the Yankees, the team led by Joe DiMaggio. Nothing the current team could accomplish would ever be good enough to replace the old Yankees in my father's eyes.

Whenever the Yankees get shut out, I know I am going to hear this from my father, "Great teams never get shut out. The old Yankees never did." Now, understand there was no research done to support my father's statement, just something he believes and you cannot change his mind. But his point has merit when it comes to the Packers blanking the Jets.

The Jets are a good team in spite being shut out coming off their bye week, but the display does continue to raise doubts about Mark Sanchez and his accuracy. Two weeks ago in Denver, Sanchez looked bad, especially early in the game, where he could actually have thrown five interceptions, instead of just two. His accuracy is awful at times, in fact, he is completing just 53 percent of his passes. What is even more alarming, he has only completed at least 59 percent of his passes in a game four times (two against the Patriots) in his career. This lack of precision has to worry the front office, the coaches and the fan base.

Falling at home coming off the bye week to the injury riddled Packers was tough to watch, particularly for Jets fans. The Packers fought hard and were opportunistic. Even though they did not have most of their skill players (receiver Donald Driver left early in the game), they never stopped fighting.

Green Bay attempted to run the ball despite not having much success, but the Packers understood trying to throw all the time was not the answer against the Jets.

The Packers were not going to score a ton of points against the Jets, in part because of all the injuries, therefore the burden of victory fell on the mistakes of Sanchez and the Jets' offense. The Packers were without defensive lineman Ryan Pickett, but found a way to handle the opposing running game (neither LaDainian Tomlinson nor Shonn Greene averaged 4 yards a carry) and force Sanchez to beat them.

Not all the blame goes to Sanchez as the Jets had some key drops. With Packers punter Tim Masthay landing five kicks inside the 20, the Jets also had to work with a long field all game. Scoring when an offense is backed up requires a few big plays, and Sunday, Tomlinson's five receptions led the Jets, which means Sanchez was not always looking down the field. To change field position also requires consistency on third down, but the Jets were just 7 for 17.

In Sanchez's 22 career starts, he has failed to average 7 yards per pass attempt 12 times, clearly an indication he is not looking down the field or making accurate throws on the third level. One of the best examples of his accuracy issues came on a 32-yard pass to Braylon Edwards. Edwards was wide open, but Sanchez threw the ball low, forcing the receiver to make a tough grab and eliminating the potential for yards after the catch. For the Jets to reach Super Bowl levels, Sanchez must improve in this area because weather and wind are becoming factors as November is here, which makes accuracy essential.

Apache 51 · 11-01-2010, 08:39 PM

People pay for this, wow.

fullblast · 11-01-2010, 08:41 PM

Lombardi is not a very good writer. Agree with his general point here but man that felt like a Bleacher Report piece.

MDL_JET · 11-01-2010, 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=Apache 51;3800939]People pay for this, wow.[/QUOTE]

Actually it's free but it's true. Yes WR's had a lot of drops but the accuracy still needs to improve. Should we talk about completion % again?? Anyone?

fidelioion · 11-01-2010, 08:48 PM

Say what you want about the writer...Bottom line is he's right.

This team will NOT win a superbowl unless Sanchez gets substantially better.

He needs to not only get more accurate but needs to make better more decisive decisions.

2foolish197 · 11-01-2010, 08:55 PM

..elites?..weren't we one leg whip by Edwards away from beating baltimore...didn't we beat new england...minnesota...miami??...some elites in that group...news flash...we're elite...and sanchez is never gonna be a high percentage passer...he doesn't have to be...we catch 2 balls...and avoided the afore-mentioned leg whip, we'd be 7-0;notwithstanding the sudden 'sanchez panic' virus spreading around here...we just need to get over the invisible hump...it'll happen...

SMC · 11-01-2010, 09:10 PM

He's right, but this article is like saying:

"If it rains, things get wet."

Darth Vader · 11-01-2010, 09:24 PM

Again, Sanchez's statline, if just 5 of the drops (not all of them), including the two that were completions, but ruled, Interceptions (also INC's in the statline):

21/38 (55+% completion rate) -- 319 yards -- 0 TDs/0 INTs

Those are great Sanchez Numbers.

Sanchez isn't Mr. Accuracy, but his WRs, his TEs and his RBs left him completely out to dry on Sunday.

This NFL.com Article is toilet paper. The Conventional Wisdom about Sanchez is crap getting wiped.

Apache 51 · 11-01-2010, 09:41 PM

I believe comments were made towards me in the Game thread yesterday for making comments during the game about this, where is my check. Sanchez also talked about his ball placement in his press conference too.

Equilibrium · 11-01-2010, 09:51 PM

Its journalism like this that makes me wonder whether he actually saw the game, only saw the highlights, or saw what he wanted to see.

I just witnessed Trent Dilfer on the ESPN Fantasy Football website give an analysis on the failure of the Jets receivers to take advantage of the opportunities Sanchez created. At least he backed it up with video and factual analysis.

sameoldjets · 11-02-2010, 05:51 PM

while i agree that sanchez's stats were skewed because of the drops and the ints, the bottom line is that he shouldn't be or need to throw 38 passes, especially in a 9-0 game. at no time, except for the few minutes of the 4th qtr were the jets in danger of not having enough time left to score with run plays. the problem is because sch$tty just doesn't get it.

i would rather see sanchez being the second coming of plunkett as opposed to brady. the jets have the run game and receivers who should be able to beat just about anyone in single coverage. all they got to do is get guys open and play to win.

[QUOTE=Darth Vader;3800974]Again, Sanchez's statline, if just 5 of the drops (not all of them), including the two that were completions, but ruled, Interceptions (also INC's in the statline):

21/38 (55+% completion rate) -- 319 yards -- 0 TDs/0 INTs

Those are great Sanchez Numbers.

Sanchez isn't Mr. Accuracy, but his WRs, his TEs and his RBs left him completely out to dry on Sunday.

This NFL.com Article is toilet paper. The Conventional Wisdom about Sanchez is crap getting wiped.[/QUOTE]

sg3 · 11-03-2010, 07:01 AM

another really stupid "story" from Lombardi..... he is like his fathers beloved Yankees --- a 27 time champion in the stupid story league

Rich Caster · 11-03-2010, 09:21 AM

I think that we are all aware that in 99% every game, one team will win and one team will loose.

ChadOwnsBrady · 11-03-2010, 11:48 AM

So we "can't" win if Sanchez' accuracy is what it is? Like we've won every single game we've played except two? And in the two we lost it was by a combined ten points? Yeah, we're in ****ing trouble.

Dump.

11-01-2010, 08:34 PM	#1
jxc All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,989	NFL.com: Jets Will Struggle to be Elite Unless Sanchez Improves Accuracy [url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81bca6f8/article/jets-will-struggle-to-be-elite-unless-sanchez-improves-accuracy?module=HP_cp2[/url] My father is 83 years old, still cuts hair every day and loves the New York Yankees. But he really loves the 40's version of the Yankees, the team led by Joe DiMaggio. Nothing the current team could accomplish would ever be good enough to replace the old Yankees in my father's eyes. Whenever the Yankees get shut out, I know I am going to hear this from my father, "Great teams never get shut out. The old Yankees never did." Now, understand there was no research done to support my father's statement, just something he believes and you cannot change his mind. But his point has merit when it comes to the Packers blanking the Jets. The Jets are a good team in spite being shut out coming off their bye week, but the display does continue to raise doubts about Mark Sanchez and his accuracy. Two weeks ago in Denver, Sanchez looked bad, especially early in the game, where he could actually have thrown five interceptions, instead of just two. His accuracy is awful at times, in fact, he is completing just 53 percent of his passes. What is even more alarming, he has only completed at least 59 percent of his passes in a game four times (two against the Patriots) in his career. This lack of precision has to worry the front office, the coaches and the fan base. Falling at home coming off the bye week to the injury riddled Packers was tough to watch, particularly for Jets fans. The Packers fought hard and were opportunistic. Even though they did not have most of their skill players (receiver Donald Driver left early in the game), they never stopped fighting. Green Bay attempted to run the ball despite not having much success, but the Packers understood trying to throw all the time was not the answer against the Jets. The Packers were not going to score a ton of points against the Jets, in part because of all the injuries, therefore the burden of victory fell on the mistakes of Sanchez and the Jets' offense. The Packers were without defensive lineman Ryan Pickett, but found a way to handle the opposing running game (neither LaDainian Tomlinson nor Shonn Greene averaged 4 yards a carry) and force Sanchez to beat them. Not all the blame goes to Sanchez as the Jets had some key drops. With Packers punter Tim Masthay landing five kicks inside the 20, the Jets also had to work with a long field all game. Scoring when an offense is backed up requires a few big plays, and Sunday, Tomlinson's five receptions led the Jets, which means Sanchez was not always looking down the field. To change field position also requires consistency on third down, but the Jets were just 7 for 17. In Sanchez's 22 career starts, he has failed to average 7 yards per pass attempt 12 times, clearly an indication he is not looking down the field or making accurate throws on the third level. One of the best examples of his accuracy issues came on a 32-yard pass to Braylon Edwards. Edwards was wide open, but Sanchez threw the ball low, forcing the receiver to make a tough grab and eliminating the potential for yards after the catch. For the Jets to reach Super Bowl levels, Sanchez must improve in this area because weather and wind are becoming factors as November is here, which makes accuracy essential.

11-01-2010, 08:55 PM	#6
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	..elites?..weren't we one leg whip by Edwards away from beating baltimore...didn't we beat new england...minnesota...miami??...some elites in that group...news flash...we're elite...and sanchez is never gonna be a high percentage passer...he doesn't have to be...we catch 2 balls...and avoided the afore-mentioned leg whip, we'd be 7-0;notwithstanding the sudden 'sanchez panic' virus spreading around here...we just need to get over the invisible hump...it'll happen... Last edited by 2foolish197; 11-01-2010 at 08:59 PM.

11-01-2010, 08:39 PM	#2
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,613	People pay for this, wow.

11-01-2010, 08:41 PM	#3
fullblast All League Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,575	Lombardi is not a very good writer. Agree with his general point here but man that felt like a Bleacher Report piece.

11-01-2010, 08:42 PM	#4
MDL_JET All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,633	[QUOTE=Apache 51;3800939]People pay for this, wow.[/QUOTE] Actually it's free but it's true. Yes WR's had a lot of drops but the accuracy still needs to improve. Should we talk about completion % again?? Anyone?

11-01-2010, 08:48 PM	#5
fidelioion alright Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,493	Say what you want about the writer...Bottom line is he's right. This team will NOT win a superbowl unless Sanchez gets substantially better. He needs to not only get more accurate but needs to make better more decisive decisions.

11-01-2010, 09:10 PM	#7
SMC Day-to-day Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 22,032	He's right, but this article is like saying: "If it rains, things get wet."

11-01-2010, 09:24 PM	#8
Darth Vader Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 11,872	Again, Sanchez's statline, if just 5 of the drops (not all of them), including the two that were completions, but ruled, Interceptions (also INC's in the statline): 21/38 (55+% completion rate) -- 319 yards -- 0 TDs/0 INTs Those are great Sanchez Numbers. Sanchez isn't Mr. Accuracy, but his WRs, his TEs and his RBs left him completely out to dry on Sunday. This NFL.com Article is toilet paper. The Conventional Wisdom about Sanchez is crap getting wiped.

11-01-2010, 09:41 PM	#9
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,613	I believe comments were made towards me in the Game thread yesterday for making comments during the game about this, where is my check. Sanchez also talked about his ball placement in his press conference too.

11-01-2010, 09:51 PM	#10
Equilibrium Why you would shoot a man before throwing him off a plane? All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,548	Its journalism like this that makes me wonder whether he actually saw the game, only saw the highlights, or saw what he wanted to see. I just witnessed Trent Dilfer on the ESPN Fantasy Football website give an analysis on the failure of the Jets receivers to take advantage of the opportunities Sanchez created. At least he backed it up with video and factual analysis.

11-02-2010, 05:51 PM	#11
sameoldjets All Pro Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,477	while i agree that sanchez's stats were skewed because of the drops and the ints, the bottom line is that he shouldn't be or need to throw 38 passes, especially in a 9-0 game. at no time, except for the few minutes of the 4th qtr were the jets in danger of not having enough time left to score with run plays. the problem is because sch$tty just doesn't get it. i would rather see sanchez being the second coming of plunkett as opposed to brady. the jets have the run game and receivers who should be able to beat just about anyone in single coverage. all they got to do is get guys open and play to win. [QUOTE=Darth Vader;3800974]Again, Sanchez's statline, if just 5 of the drops (not all of them), including the two that were completions, but ruled, Interceptions (also INC's in the statline): 21/38 (55+% completion rate) -- 319 yards -- 0 TDs/0 INTs Those are great Sanchez Numbers. Sanchez isn't Mr. Accuracy, but his WRs, his TEs and his RBs left him completely out to dry on Sunday. This NFL.com Article is toilet paper. The Conventional Wisdom about Sanchez is crap getting wiped.[/QUOTE]

11-03-2010, 07:01 AM	#12
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,360	another really stupid "story" from Lombardi..... he is like his fathers beloved Yankees --- a 27 time champion in the stupid story league

11-03-2010, 09:21 AM	#13
Rich Caster Rookie Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 767	I think that we are all aware that in 99% every game, one team will win and one team will loose.

11-03-2010, 11:48 AM	#14
ChadOwnsBrady rockin' and rollin', struttin' and strollin' All Pro Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Astoria, NY Posts: 989	So we "can't" win if Sanchez' accuracy is what it is? Like we've won every single game we've played except two? And in the two we lost it was by a combined ten points? Yeah, we're in ****ing trouble. Dump.