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Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 02-21-2011, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Death

You don't seem to be on the bandwagon, TJ & t W, which is fair enough - do you have a nominee in mind who to your thinking might be better than the current Barca team?

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Originally Posted by RaoulDuke

I know you're just prodding, but on the road, in CL game agaist one of the better European teams, Barca dominated them..and lost. It's going to happen.

Barca will win the return game by +3 goals.

I'm not going to pretend to have the type of soccer knowledge of you good folksbut , it's just a big pet-peeve of mine when teams are annointed best ever without actually winning anything

Barcel;ona is certainly loaded but to assert they are the best ever at this stage seems verfy silly to me.

The Turk · 02-21-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

I'm not going to pretend to have the type of soccer knowledge of you good folksbut , it's just a big pet-peeve of mine when teams are annointed best ever without actually winning anything

Barcel;ona is certainly loaded but to assert they are the best ever at this stage seems verfy silly to me.

Mate, they are two times defending champions in La Liga (almost certainly will win it again this year), won the CL in 09 and only got bounced in the semi final because Mourinho had Inter play Catenaccio for 180 minutes because he realised the only way he was eliminating Barça was by buliding a wall and praying.

So, far from not actually winning anything they won every competition they played in 2009. I don't think that has ever been done before.

Batmans A Scientist · 02-21-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

This is definitely not going to help the 'best-ever' believers.

I'm not sure it's particularly relevant. There was only one player who played in the Barca game and the Leyton game.

Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 02-21-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Turk

Mate, they are two times defending champions in La Liga (almost certainly will win it again this year), won the CL in 09 and only got bounced in the semi final because Mourinho had Inter play Catenaccio for 180 minutes because he realised the only way he was eliminating Barça was by buliding a wall and praying.

So, far from not actually winning anything they won every competition they played in 2009. I don't think that has ever been done before.

La Liga is a two team league, no? How much credit does Barca get for that vs any of the 22 other titles they have won over the years?

Anyway, I thought you were talking about THIS year's team as best ever. If you're going to bring up the '09 CL title, I think this is a different argument - one about greatest dynasties. But again, they should prbably win another CL before getting that crown too.

Just my opinion.

Traitor Jay & the Woodies · 02-21-2011, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Batmans A Scientist

I'm not sure it's particularly relevant. There was only one player who played in the Barca game and the Leyton game.

LOL. That's pretty funny actually.

frostlich · 02-21-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

La Liga is a two team league, no? How much credit does Barca get for that vs any of the 22 other titles they have won over the years?

Anyway, I thought you were talking about THIS year's team as best ever. If you're going to bring up the '09 CL title, I think this is a different argument - one about greatest dynasties. But again, they should prbably win another CL before getting that crown too.

Just my opinion.

Preach it Denny!

The Turk · 02-22-2011, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies

La Liga is a two team league, no? How much credit does Barca get for that vs any of the 22 other titles they have won over the years?

Anyway, I thought you were talking about THIS year's team as best ever. If you're going to bring up the '09 CL title, I think this is a different argument - one about greatest dynasties. But again, they should prbably win another CL before getting that crown too.

Just my opinion.

Personally I welcome a different viewpoint - actually any viewvpoint - after months of dead air in the Soccer forum.

We were always talking about dynasties, the only competition to this years Barça for me anyway was late 80's early 90's Sacchi's Milan.

Yes it can be said that La Liga is a 2 team race but Barcelona are and have always been the second team in that race. So even if we discount the fact that they beat Real Madrid for the title you have to admit beating Real Madrid 6-2 - and it wasn't that close - in the Barnabeu to all but clinch the title is something special.

Also the Barça essentially hasn't changed since that out of this world 09 team. The only difference worth anything was changing Etoo with Ibrahimovic then changing him with Villa. The rest of the squad is pretty much the same.

Celtic Bhoy · 03-08-2011, 08:32 PM

Messi's finish was brilliant.

Never in a million years was that a red card. Arsenal were well and truly shafted there.

Penalty was fair.

Xavi's goal was nice.

Good result for Barca. Was hoping for an Arsenal victory.

Bay Ridge Jet · 03-08-2011, 09:16 PM

Van Persie's second yellow was an absolute joke. The team was too tired to attack at the end as well. It's a shame wenger had to use an early sub on the keeper

Celtic Bhoy · 03-08-2011, 09:57 PM

Almunia needed to be relied upon too much in that game, and the fact of the matter is that he cannot be relied upon. Arsenal could do with investing in a new keeper in the summer.

DevsJetsYanks88 · 03-09-2011, 12:04 AM

Barca still would have came out on top, but I would have really liked to see the game play out without the bull**** yellow card on Van Persie.

The Turk · 03-09-2011, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DevsJetsYanks88

Barca still would have came out on top, but I would have really liked to see the game play out without the bull**** yellow card on Van Persie.

+1

and even after a half of dominance Arsenal nearly stole the tie in the last minute. If Bendner shoots first time instead of trying to control the cross after Leonardo I think it was made a horrendous mistake Barça was out.

Barça leave too many goals unscored this season. They are not as good as the 09 team but they're still better than anyone else.

RaoulDuke · 03-09-2011, 02:30 AM

Really poor judgement by the ref for Van Persie’s 2nd yellow card. He killed the match right there. Still, I don’t think there was much Arsenal could have done (19 – 0 shots on goal).

What a team. 3-1, qualification in hand, and they still play like it’s 0-0.

03-08-2011, 08:32 PM	#28
Celtic Bhoy Veteran Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 131	Messi's finish was brilliant. Never in a million years was that a red card. Arsenal were well and truly shafted there. Penalty was fair. Xavi's goal was nice. Good result for Barca. Was hoping for an Arsenal victory.

03-08-2011, 09:16 PM	#29
Bay Ridge Jet All Pro Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 7,190	Van Persie's second yellow was an absolute joke. The team was too tired to attack at the end as well. It's a shame wenger had to use an early sub on the keeper

03-08-2011, 09:57 PM	#30
Celtic Bhoy Veteran Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ireland Posts: 131	Almunia needed to be relied upon too much in that game, and the fact of the matter is that he cannot be relied upon. Arsenal could do with investing in a new keeper in the summer.

03-09-2011, 12:04 AM	#31
DevsJetsYanks88 All Pro Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Jersey Posts: 7,409	Barca still would have came out on top, but I would have really liked to see the game play out without the bull**** yellow card on Van Persie.

03-09-2011, 02:30 AM	#33
RaoulDuke Son of Ham Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 11,869	Really poor judgement by the ref for Van Persie’s 2nd yellow card. He killed the match right there. Still, I don’t think there was much Arsenal could have done (19 – 0 shots on goal). What a team. 3-1, qualification in hand, and they still play like it’s 0-0.