Obama leads potential 2012 foes nationally - Jets Insider.com Forums

Jetdawgg · 04-15-2011, 04:35 PM

[url]http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_US_04131205.pdf[/url]

Barack Obama (D) 48 (48)
Mike Huckabee (R) 43 (43)

Barack Obama (D) 47 (47)
Mitt Romney (R) 41 (42)

Barack Obama (D) 48 (--)
Chris Christie (R) 39 (--)

Barack Obama (D) 48 (--)
Rand Paul (R) 38 (--)

Barack Obama (D) 52 (50)
Newt Gingrich (R) 38 (39)

Barack Obama (D) 54 (53)
Sarah Palin (R) 36 (38)

Ha Ha Ha · 04-15-2011, 04:38 PM

can't believe this $hit is starting already.

election season is way too long and drawn out.

yawn.

Warfish · 04-15-2011, 05:03 PM

No wonder, with that list of hacks and failures. Not a one of them I'd trust, and a few who are flat out horrible. If this is our best, better get cracking on how to handle Obama II (and then Ms. President Clinton after that if wed can't find better). Only Paul is decent here, and he's far too new.

Mike Huckabee (R) 43 (43)
Mitt Romney (R) 41 (42)
Chris Christie (R) 39 (--)
Rand Paul (R) 38 (--)
Newt Gingrich (R) 38 (39)
Sarah Palin (R) 36 (38)

PlumberKhan · 04-15-2011, 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4002037]No wonder, with that list of hacks and failures. Not a one of them I'd trust, and a few who are flat out horrible. If this is our best, better get cracking on how to handle Obama II (and then Ms. President Clinton after that if wed can't find better). Only Paul is decent here, and he's far too new.[/QUOTE]

What about Christie?

I figured he'd be a guy you'd support....

AlbanyJet · 04-15-2011, 06:29 PM

Donald Trump :royal_flu

:jets17

neevsmazda07 · 04-15-2011, 07:23 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4002037]No wonder, with that list of hacks and failures. Not a one of them I'd trust, and a few who are flat out horrible. If this is our best, better get cracking on how to handle Obama II (and then Ms. President Clinton after that if wed can't find better). Only Paul is decent here, and he's far too new.

Mike Huckabee (R) 43 (43)
Mitt Romney (R) 41 (42)
Chris Christie (R) 39 (--)
Rand Paul (R) 38 (--)
Newt Gingrich (R) 38 (39)
Sarah Palin (R) 36 (38)[/QUOTE]

used to like romney for his savy business sense but his healthcare debacle killed it for me... im in between rand paul and michelle bachmann :D

AlbanyJet · 04-15-2011, 08:22 PM

There's one political poll and only one political poll: The right track/wrong track poll.

[url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html[/url]

Right Track - 22.5%
Wrong Track - 66.5%

:jets17

bitonti · 04-15-2011, 08:31 PM

Jeb Bush could beat him. But he's not gonna run this time out cause he wants to win.

Scott Brown could do it in another cycle. Maybe even Christie. GOP 2016 is a much easier road than GOP 2012.

FF2® · 04-15-2011, 09:12 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;4002150]Jeb Bush could beat him. But he's not gonna run this time out cause he wants to win.[/QUOTE]

Huh? :confused:

JetPotato · 04-16-2011, 02:18 PM

The GOP is an embarrassment and total failure. To lose to this clown, who is easily one of the 5 worst POTUS of all time (which is obviously going to happen), speaks volumes.

Guess I'll just have to hold on to the knowledge that some day soon, the backwards, hypocritical establishment in control of the GOP now will die off.

And here's to hoping the new wave of young, reasonable ones sticks with it.

Phoenixx · 04-16-2011, 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;4002150]Jeb Bush could beat him.
But he's not gonna run this time out cause he wants to win.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FF2®;4002170]Huh? :confused:[/QUOTE]

Could I borrow that smilie ??

TerminatorJet · 04-16-2011, 04:31 PM

I know it's useful to conduct polls but it's way too early plus I think regardless of national popular vote I think Obama will have a tough time winning either Ohio or Florida which is what is really going to decide the election. The inbred tea partiers are going to turn out in droves in those states to vote.

Jetdawgg · 04-16-2011, 04:51 PM

[QUOTE=TerminatorJet;4002463]I know it's useful to conduct polls but it's way too early plus I think regardless of national popular vote I think Obama will have a tough time winning either Ohio or Florida which is what is really going to decide the election. The inbred tea partiers are going to turn out in droves in those states to vote.[/QUOTE]

Isn't the new leader of the DNC from Florida?

TerminatorJet · 04-16-2011, 04:57 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg;4002470]Isn't the new leader of the DNC from Florida?[/QUOTE]

So? John Ensign is from Nevada and was the RNC chair in 2008. Obama won Nevada in 2008. Michael Steele is from Maryland - I doubt whoever the republican nominee is will win Maryland in 2012 even if they win the presidency. It doesn't really matter where the party chairman is from.

Jetdawgg · 04-16-2011, 05:02 PM

I think that the last DNC leader was from VA. President Obama won Va in 2008

TerminatorJet · 04-16-2011, 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=Jetdawgg;4002479]I think that the last DNC leader was from VA. President Obama won Va in 2008[/QUOTE]

Yes, Tim Kaine was the former governor of Virginia. It's funny you say that b/c I think Obama's best chance of winning reelection is to make Mark Warner his new running mate to help ensure he can win Virginia in 2012. Virginia plus another small state's electoral votes like New Mexico would be enough to override Romney winning both Ohio and Florida.

Jetdawgg · 04-16-2011, 05:12 PM

Let's keep an eye out those events...

Tyler Durden · 04-16-2011, 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=TerminatorJet;4002474]So? John Ensign is from Nevada and was the RNC chair in 2008. Obama won Nevada in 2008. Michael Steele is from Maryland - I doubt whoever the republican nominee is will win Maryland in 2012 even if they win the presidency. It doesn't really matter where the party chairman is from.[/QUOTE]

Mike Duncan was the RNC Chairman in 2008. Ensign chaired the Republican senatorial campaign committee.

Revi$_I$l@nd · 04-16-2011, 05:33 PM

Two of those candidates don't have the necessary national exposure to even be polled on...

TerminatorJet · 04-17-2011, 05:32 PM

[QUOTE=Revi$_I$l@nd;4002492]Two of those candidates don't have the necessary national exposure to even be polled on...[/QUOTE]

Which ones are you referring to? All of those candidates have had extensive national exposure.

04-15-2011, 04:35 PM	#1
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	Obama leads potential 2012 foes nationally [url]http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_US_04131205.pdf[/url] Barack Obama (D) 48 (48) Mike Huckabee (R) 43 (43) Barack Obama (D) 47 (47) Mitt Romney (R) 41 (42) Barack Obama (D) 48 (--) Chris Christie (R) 39 (--) Barack Obama (D) 48 (--) Rand Paul (R) 38 (--) Barack Obama (D) 52 (50) Newt Gingrich (R) 38 (39) Barack Obama (D) 54 (53) Sarah Palin (R) 36 (38)

04-15-2011, 04:38 PM	#2
Ha Ha Ha Board Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Brooklyn Heights Posts: 2,459	can't believe this $hit is starting already. election season is way too long and drawn out. yawn.

04-15-2011, 05:03 PM	#3
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	No wonder, with that list of hacks and failures. Not a one of them I'd trust, and a few who are flat out horrible. If this is our best, better get cracking on how to handle Obama II (and then Ms. President Clinton after that if wed can't find better). Only Paul is decent here, and he's far too new. Mike Huckabee (R) 43 (43) Mitt Romney (R) 41 (42) Chris Christie (R) 39 (--) Rand Paul (R) 38 (--) Newt Gingrich (R) 38 (39) Sarah Palin (R) 36 (38)

04-15-2011, 05:10 PM	#4
PlumberKhan BRACE YOURSELVES FOR 12... Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Van down by the river Posts: 21,015	[QUOTE=Warfish;4002037]No wonder, with that list of hacks and failures. Not a one of them I'd trust, and a few who are flat out horrible. If this is our best, better get cracking on how to handle Obama II (and then Ms. President Clinton after that if wed can't find better). Only Paul is decent here, and he's far too new.[/QUOTE] What about Christie? I figured he'd be a guy you'd support....

04-15-2011, 06:29 PM	#5
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,631	Donald Trump :royal_flu :jets17

04-15-2011, 07:23 PM	#6
neevsmazda07 jetsinsider.... pug approved!!! All League Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: cape coral fl. Posts: 2,609	[QUOTE=Warfish;4002037]No wonder, with that list of hacks and failures. Not a one of them I'd trust, and a few who are flat out horrible. If this is our best, better get cracking on how to handle Obama II (and then Ms. President Clinton after that if wed can't find better). Only Paul is decent here, and he's far too new. Mike Huckabee (R) 43 (43) Mitt Romney (R) 41 (42) Chris Christie (R) 39 (--) Rand Paul (R) 38 (--) Newt Gingrich (R) 38 (39) Sarah Palin (R) 36 (38)[/QUOTE] used to like romney for his savy business sense but his healthcare debacle killed it for me... im in between rand paul and michelle bachmann :D

04-15-2011, 08:22 PM	#7
AlbanyJet All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,631	There's one political poll and only one political poll: The right track/wrong track poll. [url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html[/url] Right Track - 22.5% Wrong Track - 66.5% :jets17

04-15-2011, 08:31 PM	#8
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	Jeb Bush could beat him. But he's not gonna run this time out cause he wants to win. Scott Brown could do it in another cycle. Maybe even Christie. GOP 2016 is a much easier road than GOP 2012.

04-15-2011, 09:12 PM	#9
FF2® Believes Sloppy Guy was involved JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 46,205	[QUOTE=bitonti;4002150]Jeb Bush could beat him. But he's not gonna run this time out cause he wants to win.[/QUOTE] Huh? :confused:

04-16-2011, 02:18 PM	#10
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,142	The GOP is an embarrassment and total failure. To lose to this clown, who is easily one of the 5 worst POTUS of all time (which is obviously going to happen), speaks volumes. Guess I'll just have to hold on to the knowledge that some day soon, the backwards, hypocritical establishment in control of the GOP now will die off. And here's to hoping the new wave of young, reasonable ones sticks with it.

04-16-2011, 02:34 PM	#11
Phoenixx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield County, CT Posts: 6,870	[QUOTE=bitonti;4002150]Jeb Bush could beat him. But he's not gonna run this time out cause he wants to win.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=FF2®;4002170]Huh? :confused:[/QUOTE] Could I borrow that smilie ??

04-16-2011, 04:31 PM	#12
TerminatorJet is making lotsa $$ off Schotty's stupidity! Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,348	I know it's useful to conduct polls but it's way too early plus I think regardless of national popular vote I think Obama will have a tough time winning either Ohio or Florida which is what is really going to decide the election. The inbred tea partiers are going to turn out in droves in those states to vote.

04-16-2011, 04:51 PM	#13
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	[QUOTE=TerminatorJet;4002463]I know it's useful to conduct polls but it's way too early plus I think regardless of national popular vote I think Obama will have a tough time winning either Ohio or Florida which is what is really going to decide the election. The inbred tea partiers are going to turn out in droves in those states to vote.[/QUOTE] Isn't the new leader of the DNC from Florida?

04-16-2011, 04:57 PM	#14
TerminatorJet is making lotsa $$ off Schotty's stupidity! Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,348	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg;4002470]Isn't the new leader of the DNC from Florida?[/QUOTE] So? John Ensign is from Nevada and was the RNC chair in 2008. Obama won Nevada in 2008. Michael Steele is from Maryland - I doubt whoever the republican nominee is will win Maryland in 2012 even if they win the presidency. It doesn't really matter where the party chairman is from.

04-16-2011, 05:02 PM	#15
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	I think that the last DNC leader was from VA. President Obama won Va in 2008

04-16-2011, 05:08 PM	#16
TerminatorJet is making lotsa $$ off Schotty's stupidity! Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,348	[QUOTE=Jetdawgg;4002479]I think that the last DNC leader was from VA. President Obama won Va in 2008[/QUOTE] Yes, Tim Kaine was the former governor of Virginia. It's funny you say that b/c I think Obama's best chance of winning reelection is to make Mark Warner his new running mate to help ensure he can win Virginia in 2012. Virginia plus another small state's electoral votes like New Mexico would be enough to override Romney winning both Ohio and Florida.

04-16-2011, 05:12 PM	#17
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,687	Let's keep an eye out those events...

04-16-2011, 05:13 PM	#18
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	[QUOTE=TerminatorJet;4002474]So? John Ensign is from Nevada and was the RNC chair in 2008. Obama won Nevada in 2008. Michael Steele is from Maryland - I doubt whoever the republican nominee is will win Maryland in 2012 even if they win the presidency. It doesn't really matter where the party chairman is from.[/QUOTE] Mike Duncan was the RNC Chairman in 2008. Ensign chaired the Republican senatorial campaign committee.

04-16-2011, 05:33 PM	#19
Revi$_I$l@nd is Cro-ing H.A.M...Whatever that means Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,489	Two of those candidates don't have the necessary national exposure to even be polled on...

04-17-2011, 05:32 PM	#20
TerminatorJet is making lotsa $$ off Schotty's stupidity! Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,348	[QUOTE=Revi$_I$l@nd;4002492]Two of those candidates don't have the necessary national exposure to even be polled on...[/QUOTE] Which ones are you referring to? All of those candidates have had extensive national exposure.