Who was a better prospect Wilkerson or Odrick - Jets Insider.com Forums

k.Rhodes25 · 05-03-2011, 04:58 PM

Jared Odrick 6'5 305

Muhammad Wilkerson 6'4 315

bitonti · 05-03-2011, 05:01 PM

its gonna sound homerish but wilkerson by alot

i saw both of these players up close. Wilkerson cause im in Philly and have seen Temple a couple times, Odrick i saw at the Senior Bowl. Wilkerson has vast untapped potential and a more steady player.

Odrick is maxed out but hot and cold. Odrick 1 play he'd dominate and make a TFL the next he'd be pancaked on the ground. Wilkerson is younger coming out and has more to learn but also more potential.

FijiJet · 05-03-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bitonti

its gonna sound homerish but wilkerson by alot

i saw both of these players up close. Wilkerson cause im in Philly and have seen Temple a couple times, Odrick i saw at the Senior Bowl. Wilkerson has vast untapped potential and a more steady player.

Odrick is maxed out but hot and cold. Odrick 1 play he'd dominate and make a TFL the next he'd be pancaked on the ground. Wilkerson is younger coming out and has more to learn but also more potential.

Thanks for that, I'll take the more consistent player with the higher upside

JonEJet · 05-03-2011, 07:47 PM

Much ado about Nothing · 05-03-2011, 08:03 PM

Another vote for Wilkerson using bit's reasoning. Also, if I want a prospect I don't go to Penn State. Not that I'd run to Temple either, but Al Golden's Temple? Sure.

Woody56 · 05-03-2011, 08:05 PM

This is no homer, but Wilkerson easily. Wilk has some of the biggest upside in the whole 2011 class and I don't think you can say the same about Odrick in the 2010 class.

OCCH · 05-03-2011, 08:20 PM

Sorry -- I don't follow non-Jet players much . . .

Are we asking this question because Odrick turned out GOOD, and we're hoping Wilk can be even BETTER, or because Odrick STINKS and we're praying Wilk doesn't turn out the same?

Edit: Regardless, the responses to this are VERY encouraging

TheMikeIsHot · 05-03-2011, 08:52 PM

Odrick was one of the guys I wanted no part of last year. I obviously don't think very highly of him and I'd be surprised if he ever became a dominant player.

Wilkerson is bigger, stronger, and faster. He's not a finished product and there's no telling if he'll ever reach his ceiling, but I'd take his skillset and athleticism over Odrick's any day.

Much ado about Nothing · 05-03-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OCCH

Sorry -- I don't follow non-Jet players much . . .

Are we asking this question because Odrick turned out GOOD, and we're hoping Wilk can be even BETTER, or because Odrick STINKS and we're praying Wilk doesn't turn out the same?

Edit: Regardless, the responses to this are VERY encouraging

Odrick's just mediocre.

Untouchable · 05-03-2011, 09:58 PM

Wilkerson

And that's from a guy who wanted Odrick last year. Mostly just because I wanted a young DL prospect so bady.

k.Rhodes25 · 05-03-2011, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OCCH

Sorry -- I don't follow non-Jet players much . . .

Are we asking this question because Odrick turned out GOOD, and we're hoping Wilk can be even BETTER, or because Odrick STINKS and we're praying Wilk doesn't turn out the same?

Edit: Regardless, the responses to this are VERY encouraging

Odrick went 28th overall to the Dolphins last year and some discussions about maybe us taking him last year, just wanted to know who was a better prospect. Looks like Wilkerson had more production at younger ages, but he also played against lesser competition.

Odrick was placed on the IR his rookie season with the Dolphins.

Bronxville Jets Fan · 05-03-2011, 10:19 PM

I know not many care for Kiper, but for what it's worth, I saw in one of his chats that he was asked how Odrick compared to Heyward and Kiper said that he thought Heyward was better. From this we can assume that he had Wilkerson ranked way ahead of Odrick considering that he had Wilkerson ranked 10 or so spots higher than Heyward.

Bronxville Jets Fan · 05-03-2011, 10:34 PM

There's a lot of talk in Miami about Odrick possibly being dogged by injuries his entire career. Apparently the leg issue that sidelined him last year was a preexisting issue.

That said, I really wanted him last year and wonder if the Jets would have taken him had he been available at 29.

Flaming Mo · 05-04-2011, 09:39 AM

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Haha, I just realized I have the same nickname... even though it is not as fitting with me being 6-4 and 215 lbs as it is with Wilkerson...

crasherino · 05-04-2011, 10:15 AM

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Haha, I just realized I have the same nickname... even though it is not as fitting with me being 6-4 and 215 lbs as it is with Wilkerson...

But its interesting that you went with "Flaming Mo". How come you didn't choose "Big Flaming Mo"?

As far as Odrick goes, I remember watching the PSU/OSU game in 2009 and coming away with the opinion that Hewyard was the best defensive player on the field. He was head and shoulders better than Odrick. I realize it was just one game, but it seemed telling to me.

Flaming Mo · 05-04-2011, 03:28 PM

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But its interesting that you went with "Flaming Mo". How come you didn't choose "Big Flaming Mo"?

As far as Odrick goes, I remember watching the PSU/OSU game in 2009 and coming away with the opinion that Hewyard was the best defensive player on the field. He was head and shoulders better than Odrick. I realize it was just one game, but it seemed telling to me.

Well, Flaming Mo has been my email address for like forever, based on that one Simpsons episode. People usually just call me "Mo" or "Big Mo"...

Can't wait to see Wilkerson on the field... our frontline will be intimidating with the newly added size...

patman · 05-05-2011, 04:54 AM

Oldrick had a higher floor but less potential, I like Wilkenson at 24, but the oly reservation i had on him was that i thought he should have been more productve a lower level conference.

TheMikeIsHot · 05-05-2011, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by patman

Oldrick had a higher floor but less potential, I like Wilkenson at 24, but the oly reservation i had on him was that i thought he should have been more productve a lower level conference.

2010 (12 games): 70 tackles, 13.5 TFL, 9.5 sacks
2009 (13 games): 61 tackles , 10.5 TFL, 7 sacks

Those numbers look pretty good to me.

BRONX JET · 05-05-2011, 07:10 AM

Honestly don't know much about Wilkerson, but he seems really really llooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg!

k.Rhodes25 · 05-06-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by patman

Oldrick had a higher floor but less potential, I like Wilkenson at 24, but the oly reservation i had on him was that i thought he should have been more productve a lower level conference.

I forget where I read it, probably on this board, but it said how Temple didn't use Wilkerson to his full potential. They played a lot of read and react style of defense, so he had to stay back and read the plays instead of attacking. The article also said when they allowed Wilkerson to attack, he would dominate. So the read and react defense may have lessen his numbers, but his numbers looked pretty productive to me.

05-03-2011, 04:58 PM	#1
k.Rhodes25 All League Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,873	Who was a better prospect Wilkerson or Odrick Jared Odrick 6'5 305 Muhammad Wilkerson 6'4 315

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bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	its gonna sound homerish but wilkerson by alot i saw both of these players up close. Wilkerson cause im in Philly and have seen Temple a couple times, Odrick i saw at the Senior Bowl. Wilkerson has vast untapped potential and a more steady player. Odrick is maxed out but hot and cold. Odrick 1 play he'd dominate and make a TFL the next he'd be pancaked on the ground. Wilkerson is younger coming out and has more to learn but also more potential.

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Much ado about Nothing Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,602	Another vote for Wilkerson using bit's reasoning. Also, if I want a prospect I don't go to Penn State. Not that I'd run to Temple either, but Al Golden's Temple? Sure.

05-03-2011, 08:05 PM	#6
Woody56 Purifying myself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka All League Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,066	This is no homer, but Wilkerson easily. Wilk has some of the biggest upside in the whole 2011 class and I don't think you can say the same about Odrick in the 2010 class.

05-03-2011, 08:20 PM	#7
OCCH glad I have more purpose in life than Jets football . . . Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,411	Sorry -- I don't follow non-Jet players much . . . Are we asking this question because Odrick turned out GOOD, and we're hoping Wilk can be even BETTER, or because Odrick STINKS and we're praying Wilk doesn't turn out the same? Edit: Regardless, the responses to this are VERY encouraging

05-03-2011, 08:52 PM	#8
TheMikeIsHot this won't end well All Pro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 7,041	Odrick was one of the guys I wanted no part of last year. I obviously don't think very highly of him and I'd be surprised if he ever became a dominant player. Wilkerson is bigger, stronger, and faster. He's not a finished product and there's no telling if he'll ever reach his ceiling, but I'd take his skillset and athleticism over Odrick's any day.

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Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	Wilkerson And that's from a guy who wanted Odrick last year. Mostly just because I wanted a young DL prospect so bady.

05-03-2011, 10:19 PM	#12
Bronxville Jets Fan The eternal optimist Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastchester, NY Posts: 1,122	I know not many care for Kiper, but for what it's worth, I saw in one of his chats that he was asked how Odrick compared to Heyward and Kiper said that he thought Heyward was better. From this we can assume that he had Wilkerson ranked way ahead of Odrick considering that he had Wilkerson ranked 10 or so spots higher than Heyward.

05-03-2011, 10:34 PM	#13
Bronxville Jets Fan The eternal optimist Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastchester, NY Posts: 1,122	There's a lot of talk in Miami about Odrick possibly being dogged by injuries his entire career. Apparently the leg issue that sidelined him last year was a preexisting issue. That said, I really wanted him last year and wonder if the Jets would have taken him had he been available at 29.

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patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,152	Oldrick had a higher floor but less potential, I like Wilkenson at 24, but the oly reservation i had on him was that i thought he should have been more productve a lower level conference.

05-05-2011, 07:10 AM	#19
BRONX JET Geno chants will start week 1 All League Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Bronx, USA Posts: 3,004	Honestly don't know much about Wilkerson, but he seems really really llooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg!