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Dirtstar · 06-06-2011, 07:25 PM

yes?

no?

POSSIBLY???

frostlich · 06-06-2011, 07:54 PM

Well...if Saturdays friendly w/Spain tells us anything....hope US doesn't field the B team.

I do want to see more of this Agudelo kid though...maybe the Red Bullers can chime in on him.

bitonti · 06-06-2011, 08:19 PM

my impressions from the Spain game

-without Dempsey and Donovan they are a medicore (Terrible) team

- Robby Rogers sucks

- Tim Ream... sucks

-Sasha Klijstan... borderline at best

- people talk alot of crap about Michael Bradley, he's clearly one of their best midfielders

- Gooch actually played some D. He's not bad. Another guy people talk endless crap about... but he's tall (useful for headers on set pieces) and can stop runs in the middle.

-Jozy Altodore is in terrible form and has been useless for more than a year. I'd almost rather see Wondo at this point. it's getting close.

frostlich · 06-06-2011, 08:28 PM

Never understood the hate on Gooch. Played his azz off in the win vs Spain. Got buried on the Milan bench and has taken awhile to get back in form after that nasty injury awhile back.

Borgoguy · 06-06-2011, 08:47 PM

Although I want the US to win, I'll be pulling for Costa Rica.

I mean, who wouldn't love to play with Angie Quesada? Oh, I forgot, we're on JI, home of the über-captious.

She is such a sweetheart.

Batmans A Scientist · 06-06-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by frostlich

Never understood the hate on Gooch. Played his azz off in the win vs Spain. Got buried on the Milan bench and has taken awhile to get back in form after that nasty injury awhile back.

The dude is a statue, I'm sorry. He's playing because the US doesn't have any better, but he's not the guy he used to be. It's like he's running in cement out there.

I've never understood the Michael Bradley hate, the guy has always played well for the US team. The only guy in his position that has been as good is Holden, and sadly, the guy just can't catch a break (He's been injured by thugs in 2 consecutive seasons).

For all the crap Bob Bradley gets, he does try new things, I think the bottom line is that the US team is just not that talented. Right now, it's hard to imagine this team beating Mexico in the Gold Cup, but stranger things have happened.

The forward situation is a total disaster right now. There isn't a forward who can put the ball on net, I keep waiting for Altidore to snap out of it, but it just hasn't happened.

Foreign Alphabet · 06-06-2011, 11:56 PM

i'm going to the red bull arena to get smashed and root for jamaica in their game

DevsJetsYanks88 · 06-07-2011, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by frostlich

Well...if Saturdays friendly w/Spain tells us anything....hope US doesn't field the B team.

I do want to see more of this Agudelo kid though...maybe the Red Bullers can chime in on him.

Agudelo certainly has the talent and head, but he's still just so damn young and inexperienced. He doesn't get a whole lot of time for RBNY anymore. Pretty much a late game sub, but he has looked pretty solid in his time. The emergence of Luke Rodgers at forward has limited Agudelo's role to that late game spark plug. I'd say he likely becomes a full time starter next season.

He likes to dribble and get a little flashy, but I don't mean that in a negative sense. Even at his young age, he does a good job picking his spots and draws a ton of fouls from making guys miss with their tackles. It's hard to judge from his small body of work, but he looks like he can be an excellent finisher. The goal he scored against DC earlier in the season was brilliant. I'd be willing to bet he becomes far and away our best option up top come 2014.

DevsJetsYanks88 · 06-07-2011, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by frostlich

Never understood the hate on Gooch. Played his azz off in the win vs Spain. Got buried on the Milan bench and has taken awhile to get back in form after that nasty injury awhile back.

I was at a friends graduation party Saturday, so when Spain jumped ahead in the first half I decided I had more important things to focus on than that blowout. Therefore, I can't really comment on how he played.

However, he was absolutely putrid in that friendly against Argentina a couple months ago IMO. Granted he was playing against an attack that included Messi, which can make any defender look foolish, but he just looked lost back there.

RaoulDuke · 06-07-2011, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by frostlich

Well...if Saturdays friendly w/Spain tells us anything....hope US doesn't field the B team.
I do want to see more of this Agudelo kid though...maybe the Red Bullers can chime in on him.

What was the logic behind fielding a B team?

frostlich · 06-07-2011, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RaoulDuke

What was the logic behind fielding a B team?

I think the idea was to give the starters a rest before copa cup. Brutal to watch. Only saw the first half. 3-0 at end of half and it didn't look like ESP was even trying.

RaoulDuke · 06-07-2011, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by frostlich

I think the idea was to give the starters a rest before copa cup. Brutal to watch. Only saw the first half. 3-0 at end of half and it didn't look like ESP was even trying.

Bad idea IMO.

Never give up the opportunity to measure yourself against the best. Great pick btw with Stam. He was on my list.

Batmans A Scientist · 06-07-2011, 09:58 AM

It's weird, it's like Bradley and the USSF weren't on the same page, because I get the feeling that the US team didn't really want to play this game, and it was a money grab (65,000 at Foxboro), but they could not have looked worse.

Mexico is the clear favorite right now.

Dirtstar · 06-07-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Borgoguy

Although I want the US to win, I'll be pulling for Costa Rica.

I mean, who wouldn't love to play with Angie Quesada?

good to have you on our side, Borgo

although, it'd be even better to be on/in Angie's backside

DevsJetsYanks88 · 06-07-2011, 02:43 PM

What channel is the match on tonight? Please don't say FSC, I don't feel like watching online.

WoodyPaige · 06-07-2011, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DevsJetsYanks88

What channel is the match on tonight? Please don't say FSC, I don't feel like watching online.

sorry...

DevsJetsYanks88 · 06-07-2011, 06:22 PM

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sorry...

Damn

DevsJetsYanks88 · 06-07-2011, 07:13 PM

If anyone finds a good link to watch, would they mind posting it?

DevsJetsYanks88 · 06-07-2011, 08:29 PM

Pathetic goalkeeping by the Canadian keeper, but I'll take it. Maybe that gets Jozy going.

Batmans A Scientist · 06-07-2011, 10:20 PM

US still has a lot of trouble making the final pass and finishing, but they were in control most of the game, in particular Bradley was all over the place, and Altidore looked good too (though it seemed like the US did a lot of walking around without the ball).

Good lord terrible goalkeeping on Canada's part, but that field was a total joke. I'm pretty sure that's the last Gold Cup game in Detroit, I don't think they should play any more games there. woof.

06-06-2011, 07:25 PM	#1
Dirtstar Snubbed a man just to watch him cry. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,783	The Gold Cup thread... yes? no? POSSIBLY???

06-06-2011, 07:54 PM	#2
frostlich Get it done Shidzik! All League Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,965	Well...if Saturdays friendly w/Spain tells us anything....hope US doesn't field the B team. I do want to see more of this Agudelo kid though...maybe the Red Bullers can chime in on him.

06-06-2011, 08:19 PM	#3
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	my impressions from the Spain game -without Dempsey and Donovan they are a medicore (Terrible) team - Robby Rogers sucks - Tim Ream... sucks -Sasha Klijstan... borderline at best - people talk alot of crap about Michael Bradley, he's clearly one of their best midfielders - Gooch actually played some D. He's not bad. Another guy people talk endless crap about... but he's tall (useful for headers on set pieces) and can stop runs in the middle. -Jozy Altodore is in terrible form and has been useless for more than a year. I'd almost rather see Wondo at this point. it's getting close.

06-06-2011, 08:28 PM	#4
frostlich Get it done Shidzik! All League Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2,965	Never understood the hate on Gooch. Played his azz off in the win vs Spain. Got buried on the Milan bench and has taken awhile to get back in form after that nasty injury awhile back.

06-06-2011, 08:47 PM	#5
Borgoguy Not one image until my posts are restored. Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,382	Although I want the US to win, I'll be pulling for Costa Rica. I mean, who wouldn't love to play with Angie Quesada? Oh, I forgot, we're on JI, home of the über-captious. She is such a sweetheart.

06-06-2011, 11:56 PM	#7
Foreign Alphabet Banned Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Scranton Posts: 147	i'm going to the red bull arena to get smashed and root for jamaica in their game

06-07-2011, 09:58 AM	#13
Batmans A Scientist Watching the American East Championship All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manhattan, NY Posts: 8,511	It's weird, it's like Bradley and the USSF weren't on the same page, because I get the feeling that the US team didn't really want to play this game, and it was a money grab (65,000 at Foxboro), but they could not have looked worse. Mexico is the clear favorite right now.

06-07-2011, 02:43 PM	#15
DevsJetsYanks88 All Pro Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Jersey Posts: 7,410	What channel is the match on tonight? Please don't say FSC, I don't feel like watching online.

06-07-2011, 07:13 PM	#18
DevsJetsYanks88 All Pro Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Jersey Posts: 7,410	If anyone finds a good link to watch, would they mind posting it?

06-07-2011, 08:29 PM	#19
DevsJetsYanks88 All Pro Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Jersey Posts: 7,410	Pathetic goalkeeping by the Canadian keeper, but I'll take it. Maybe that gets Jozy going.

06-07-2011, 10:20 PM	#20
Batmans A Scientist Watching the American East Championship All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Manhattan, NY Posts: 8,511	US still has a lot of trouble making the final pass and finishing, but they were in control most of the game, in particular Bradley was all over the place, and Altidore looked good too (though it seemed like the US did a lot of walking around without the ball). Good lord terrible goalkeeping on Canada's part, but that field was a total joke. I'm pretty sure that's the last Gold Cup game in Detroit, I don't think they should play any more games there. woof.