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Trades · 11-29-2011, 01:42 PM

Suprisingly this is not from the Onion.

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[LEFT][COLOR=#000000]Buried in a [URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/blackboard/washington-post"]Washington Post[/URL] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/princess-nancy-pelosivows-to-do-for-child-care-what-we-did-for-health-care/2011/11/15/gIQACzY1VN_story.html?tid=sm_twitter_washingtonpost"]story[/URL] about Herman Cain calling [URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/blackboard/nancy-pelosi"]Nancy Pelosi[/URL], "Princess Nancy" is a new policy idea that Pelosi has been pitching recently during her short tour through California.[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=#000000]By "we", Pelosi means the federal government. Pelosi clarified that Congress should be “doing for child care what we did for health-care reform.”[/COLOR][/LEFT]

[LEFT][COLOR=#000000]The Post characterizes Pelosi as touting the economic and social [URL="http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-18/politics/30413965_1_nancy-pelosi-child-care-health-care-reform#"][COLOR=darkgreen]benefits[/COLOR][/URL] of government child-sitting:

When it comes to “unleashing women” in a way that would boost the economy, she says, “this is a missing link.”
According to Pelosi, the babysitting market — one of the last unregulated sectors of the American economy — is broken.

“I could never get a babysitter — have five kids in six years and no one wants to come to your house. . . . And everywhere I go, women say the same thing,” she said.

This is an odd thing for Pelosi to be hearing since her San Francisco district has [URL="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=more%20dogs%20than%20kids%20in%20san%20francisco&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Flifestyle%2Fwith-more-dogs-than-kids-sf-dog-owners-use-four-legged-friends-to-influence-mayoral-race%2F2011%2F10%2F03%2FgIQAmCJwHL_story.html&ei=UKLGTpGvL-rx0gHq3N3rDw&usg=AFQjCNGAasgsujovT07992ieiCwTlOyL-w"]more dogs than children[/URL].

Perhaps after Pelosi boosts the economy by separating mothers from their gross offspring, she can work on "unleashing" dog-owners on the economy as well.
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JetPotato · 11-29-2011, 01:46 PM

Oh, I can't wait to hear the spin on this one.

I'm just surprised she's up for this. Unless she's concurrently planning an organization of a Babysitters' Union.

bitonti · 11-29-2011, 01:53 PM

there's a big difference between shooting the breeze at a cocktail party and actually trying to get this done.

we get it, none of you would vote for Nancy Pelosi. Her local constituents disagree.

Trades · 11-29-2011, 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4256885]Oh, I can't wait to hear the spin on this one.

I'm just surprised she's up for this. Unless she's concurrently planning an organization of a Babysitters' Union.[/QUOTE]

I can see it now. She was being heckled by a tea partier who said, "We are sick of this NAnny state!" and Nancy said, "hey, what a good idea!".

doggin94it · 11-29-2011, 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=bitonti;4256893]she's a democrat. I'll defend her.[/QUOTE]

Wouldn't it just have been easier to say the above?

It's a stupid idea, and the fact that she even floated it says all you really need to know about her political philosophy. That you can't even bring yourself to call it what it is, Bit, is just sad.

intelligentjetsfan · 11-29-2011, 07:34 PM

In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater.

The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.

southparkcpa · 11-29-2011, 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4257361]In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater.

The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.[/QUOTE]

IJF....If this post doesn't show you basically are a socialist , nothing will. I have 3 daycare centers as clients, none of the owners make what a 7 year LI school teacher makes. I.e....they don't earn 6 figures, have NO PENSION and pay for their own health insurance.

Couldn't the high rate of property tax be thebreal culprit on why 2 people need to work?

Let's regulate them ..... :rolleyes:

cr726 · 11-29-2011, 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=southparkcpa;4257426]IJF....If this post doesn't show you basically are a socialist , nothing will. I have 3 daycare centers as clients, none of the owners make what a 7 year LI school teacher makes. I.e....they don't earn 6 figures, have NO PENSION and pay for their own health insurance.

Couldn't the high rate of property tax be thebreal culprit on why 2 people need to work?

Let's regulate them ..... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

So what!

JetPotato · 11-29-2011, 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4257361]In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater.

The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.[/QUOTE]

Unreal

JetPotato · 11-29-2011, 08:50 PM

You know, my wife and I could contribute so much more to the economy if the government would step in and do our dishes and laundry, too.

Trades · 11-29-2011, 08:53 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4257361]In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater.

The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.[/QUOTE]

How exactly would you force the day care and its workers to work for less? You want to subsidize it from local, state or a federal level? You want to force school systems to include infant care so the community would have to pay for 6 months to 18 years? Last I checked schools and towns are crying poverty. Where is that money going to come from?

Trades · 11-29-2011, 08:56 PM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4257456]You know, my wife and I could contribute so much more to the economy if the government would step in and do our dishes and laundry, too.[/QUOTE]

LOL, I just decided to get a dog and I have 2 kids. I think someone should pay for a dog walking service and after care after school.

When I was in the Air Force I always remember that whenever someone would ***** that they had kids so they needed to do something or didn't want to be deployed the Master Sargent in my unit would always say, "We didn't issue you a family".

Since when is it the government's job to fund your poor decisions? If you can't afford kids, use a condom.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 11-29-2011, 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4257361]In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater.

The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.[/QUOTE]

Then dont have ****ing kids...

JetPotato · 11-29-2011, 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4257476]Then dont have ****ing kids...[/QUOTE]

Guess what happens when you're poor and the government gives you free health care, education, baby sitting ... AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT...a welfare check for every kid you pop out...

Octomom will look like an amateur.

:eek:

cr726 · 11-29-2011, 09:33 PM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4257522]Guess what happens when you're poor and the government gives you free health care, education, baby sitting ... AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT...a welfare check for every kid you pop out...

Octomom will look like an amateur.

:eek:[/QUOTE]

That can still happen? I thought the Tea Party changed all of that stuff?

JetPotato · 11-29-2011, 09:35 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;4257527]That can still happen? I thought the Tea Party changed all of that stuff?[/QUOTE]

We're all shocked that you chose to make a Tea Party comment rather than address the topic of an idiotic liberal proposal.

cr726 · 11-29-2011, 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=JetPotato;4257528]We're all shocked that you chose to make a Tea Party comment rather than address the topic of an idiotic liberal proposal.[/QUOTE]

What f'n proposal? Link to the bill?

acepepe · 11-29-2011, 09:47 PM

we already have it, the abysmal failure known as headstart. A babysitting program for lazy slobs who get to stay home and f all day (When they're not shoving chips and soft drinks down their throats)so they can have more kids. THE REAL 99%

JetPotato · 11-29-2011, 10:14 PM

[QUOTE=cr726;4257532]What f'n proposal? Link to the bill?[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes:

Useless.

bitonti · 11-29-2011, 10:15 PM

[QUOTE=doggin94it;4257353]Wouldn't it just have been easier to say the above?

It's a stupid idea, and the fact that she even floated it says all you really need to know about her political philosophy. That you can't even bring yourself to call it what it is, Bit, is just sad.[/QUOTE]

people accuse me of being partisan and whatever else but that's lazy debating. You are attacking the source not the statement

first off she's at a party. it's not news.

second, even for the sake of discussion i dont see anything nefarious about the gov't watching children. they teach children but can't watch them?

by the way babysitting is one of the few jobs computers doesn't replace.... yet

11-29-2011, 01:42 PM	#1
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,550	Nancy Pelosi Wants A Federal Babysitting Service Suprisingly this is not from the Onion. [QUOTE] [LEFT][COLOR=#000000]Buried in a [URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/blackboard/washington-post"]Washington Post[/URL] [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/princess-nancy-pelosivows-to-do-for-child-care-what-we-did-for-health-care/2011/11/15/gIQACzY1VN_story.html?tid=sm_twitter_washingtonpost"]story[/URL] about Herman Cain calling [URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/blackboard/nancy-pelosi"]Nancy Pelosi[/URL], "Princess Nancy" is a new policy idea that Pelosi has been pitching recently during her short tour through California.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]"One of the great pieces of unfinished [URL="http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-18/politics/30413965_1_nancy-pelosi-child-care-health-care-reform#"][COLOR=darkgreen]business[/COLOR][/URL] is high-quality child care; I wonder why we just can’t do that,’’ she recently said to a California audience. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]By "we", Pelosi means the federal government. Pelosi clarified that Congress should be “doing for child care what we did for health-care reform.”[/COLOR][/LEFT] [LEFT][COLOR=#000000]The Post characterizes Pelosi as touting the economic and social [URL="http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-18/politics/30413965_1_nancy-pelosi-child-care-health-care-reform#"][COLOR=darkgreen]benefits[/COLOR][/URL] of government child-sitting: When it comes to “unleashing women” in a way that would boost the economy, she says, “this is a missing link.” According to Pelosi, the babysitting market — one of the last unregulated sectors of the American economy — is broken. “I could never get a babysitter — have five kids in six years and no one wants to come to your house. . . . And everywhere I go, women say the same thing,” she said. This is an odd thing for Pelosi to be hearing since her San Francisco district has [URL="http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=more%20dogs%20than%20kids%20in%20san%20francisco&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCMQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Flifestyle%2Fwith-more-dogs-than-kids-sf-dog-owners-use-four-legged-friends-to-influence-mayoral-race%2F2011%2F10%2F03%2FgIQAmCJwHL_story.html&ei=UKLGTpGvL-rx0gHq3N3rDw&usg=AFQjCNGAasgsujovT07992ieiCwTlOyL-w"]more dogs than children[/URL]. Perhaps after Pelosi boosts the economy by separating mothers from their gross offspring, she can work on "unleashing" dog-owners on the economy as well. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000] Read more: [URL]http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-18/politics/30413965_1_nancy-pelosi-child-care-health-care-reform#ixzz1f7aMYe4d[/URL][/QUOTE][/COLOR][/LEFT]

11-29-2011, 07:34 PM	#6
intelligentjetsfan All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,307	In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater. The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed. Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 11-29-2011 at 07:53 PM.

11-29-2011, 01:46 PM	#2
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	Oh, I can't wait to hear the spin on this one. I'm just surprised she's up for this. Unless she's concurrently planning an organization of a Babysitters' Union.

11-29-2011, 01:53 PM	#3
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	there's a big difference between shooting the breeze at a cocktail party and actually trying to get this done. we get it, none of you would vote for Nancy Pelosi. Her local constituents disagree.

11-29-2011, 01:54 PM	#4
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,550	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4256885]Oh, I can't wait to hear the spin on this one. I'm just surprised she's up for this. Unless she's concurrently planning an organization of a Babysitters' Union.[/QUOTE] I can see it now. She was being heckled by a tea partier who said, "We are sick of this NAnny state!" and Nancy said, "hey, what a good idea!".

11-29-2011, 07:29 PM	#5
doggin94it Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,392	[QUOTE=bitonti;4256893]she's a democrat. I'll defend her.[/QUOTE] Wouldn't it just have been easier to say the above? It's a stupid idea, and the fact that she even floated it says all you really need to know about her political philosophy. That you can't even bring yourself to call it what it is, Bit, is just sad.

11-29-2011, 08:26 PM	#7
southparkcpa I see the 88 to 97 period all over again. Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC Posts: 15,689	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4257361]In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater. The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.[/QUOTE] IJF....If this post doesn't show you basically are a socialist , nothing will. I have 3 daycare centers as clients, none of the owners make what a 7 year LI school teacher makes. I.e....they don't earn 6 figures, have NO PENSION and pay for their own health insurance. Couldn't the high rate of property tax be thebreal culprit on why 2 people need to work? Let's regulate them ..... :rolleyes:

11-29-2011, 08:33 PM	#8
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,272	[QUOTE=southparkcpa;4257426]IJF....If this post doesn't show you basically are a socialist , nothing will. I have 3 daycare centers as clients, none of the owners make what a 7 year LI school teacher makes. I.e....they don't earn 6 figures, have NO PENSION and pay for their own health insurance. Couldn't the high rate of property tax be thebreal culprit on why 2 people need to work? Let's regulate them ..... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] So what!

11-29-2011, 08:49 PM	#9
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4257361]In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater. The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.[/QUOTE] Unreal

11-29-2011, 08:50 PM	#10
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	You know, my wife and I could contribute so much more to the economy if the government would step in and do our dishes and laundry, too.

11-29-2011, 08:53 PM	#11
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,550	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4257361]In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater. The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.[/QUOTE] How exactly would you force the day care and its workers to work for less? You want to subsidize it from local, state or a federal level? You want to force school systems to include infant care so the community would have to pay for 6 months to 18 years? Last I checked schools and towns are crying poverty. Where is that money going to come from?

11-29-2011, 08:56 PM	#12
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,550	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4257456]You know, my wife and I could contribute so much more to the economy if the government would step in and do our dishes and laundry, too.[/QUOTE] LOL, I just decided to get a dog and I have 2 kids. I think someone should pay for a dog walking service and after care after school. When I was in the Air Force I always remember that whenever someone would ***** that they had kids so they needed to do something or didn't want to be deployed the Master Sargent in my unit would always say, "We didn't issue you a family". Since when is it the government's job to fund your poor decisions? If you can't afford kids, use a condom.

11-29-2011, 09:08 PM	#13
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,445	[QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4257361]In all seriousness the out-of-control nature of child care in this country is something that needs to be addressed. So I am all for the idea of doing something that makes child care more affordable in a society where, in many cases, both parents need to work. And, of course, the burden on single parents is even greater. The cost of day care is stunning. And this is a case where the principles of capitalism work against what is best for society. The cost of day care is set by the market because many parents simply have no other alternative. In this case the government should step in to regulate the greed.[/QUOTE] Then dont have ****ing kids...

11-29-2011, 09:30 PM	#14
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	[QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4257476]Then dont have ****ing kids...[/QUOTE] Guess what happens when you're poor and the government gives you free health care, education, baby sitting ... AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT...a welfare check for every kid you pop out... Octomom will look like an amateur. :eek:

11-29-2011, 09:33 PM	#15
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,272	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4257522]Guess what happens when you're poor and the government gives you free health care, education, baby sitting ... AND ON TOP OF ALL THAT...a welfare check for every kid you pop out... Octomom will look like an amateur. :eek:[/QUOTE] That can still happen? I thought the Tea Party changed all of that stuff?

11-29-2011, 09:35 PM	#16
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	[QUOTE=cr726;4257527]That can still happen? I thought the Tea Party changed all of that stuff?[/QUOTE] We're all shocked that you chose to make a Tea Party comment rather than address the topic of an idiotic liberal proposal.

11-29-2011, 09:40 PM	#17
cr726 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 13,272	[QUOTE=JetPotato;4257528]We're all shocked that you chose to make a Tea Party comment rather than address the topic of an idiotic liberal proposal.[/QUOTE] What f'n proposal? Link to the bill?

11-29-2011, 09:47 PM	#18
acepepe All League Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,427	we already have it, the abysmal failure known as headstart. A babysitting program for lazy slobs who get to stay home and f all day (When they're not shoving chips and soft drinks down their throats)so they can have more kids. THE REAL 99%

11-29-2011, 10:14 PM	#19
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,117	[QUOTE=cr726;4257532]What f'n proposal? Link to the bill?[/QUOTE] :rolleyes: Useless.

11-29-2011, 10:15 PM	#20
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	[QUOTE=doggin94it;4257353]Wouldn't it just have been easier to say the above? It's a stupid idea, and the fact that she even floated it says all you really need to know about her political philosophy. That you can't even bring yourself to call it what it is, Bit, is just sad.[/QUOTE] people accuse me of being partisan and whatever else but that's lazy debating. You are attacking the source not the statement first off she's at a party. it's not news. second, even for the sake of discussion i dont see anything nefarious about the gov't watching children. they teach children but can't watch them? by the way babysitting is one of the few jobs computers doesn't replace.... yet