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Much ado about Nothing · 01-20-2012, 01:04 AM

FA:

Pouha

Burress

Laron Landry

Robert Mathis

Swap firsts with someone in the 20's, pick up their 2nd, 4th, and 2013 1/2.

1: Cordy Glenn OT/G Georgia (Groundz and Poundz is on)

2: Brock Osweiler QB ASU

2: Colby Fleener TE Stanford

3: Jairus Wright WR Arkansas

4: Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU

4: Robert Lester FS Alabama

5: Nigel Bradham ILB/OLB FSU

6: Olivier Vernon DE/OLB Miami

7: Drew Butler P Georgia

Much ado about Nothing · 01-20-2012, 01:42 AM

QB: Sanchez / Osweiler / Brunell (Who is rotfl)

FB: Connor

RB : Greene / McKnight / Hillman / Powell

TE: Keller (as an HB type) / Fleener / Cumberland

OL: D'Brick / Slauson / Mangold / Moore / Glenn / Ducasse / The guy from the Packers

WR: Holmes / Burress / Kerley / Wright

DL: Wilkerson / Pouha / DeVito / Ellis / Dixon / Pito

LB: Mathis / Scott / Harris / Pace / Westerman / Magua

CB: Revis / Cromartie / Wilson / Strickland

S: Landry / Leonard-Smith / Lester

Much ado about Nothing · 01-20-2012, 01:50 AM

2013 first round pick because I'm really feeling extra douchey: Alex Okafor

NYJCAP2 · 01-20-2012, 01:53 AM

Get off the Osweiler train before it starts, dudes not ready.

Like it otherwise.

Much ado about Nothing · 01-20-2012, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NYJCAP2

Get off the Osweiler train before it starts, dudes not ready.

Like it otherwise.

Screw ready! Teach! I dislike the idea of taking him so high, but overall he's a planet theory guy at QB.

That said, the smart 1/8 of my personality says go for a more experienced QB. Someone like Cousins, Lindsey, Weeden, or Foles.

Bronxville Jets Fan · 01-20-2012, 07:12 AM

Your trade-down compensation seems a little too generous. Recall in 2010, the Fins traded down from like 10 to 28 and only picked up an extra second rounder.

TheMikeIsHot · 01-20-2012, 07:20 AM

Swapping picks would not be nearly as beneficial in terms of picks coming back as you put here. The Jets will get a 2, and maybe 4 or 5 for moving down to the mid-20s... not an extra 1 next year.

I don't like the signings much, mostly the Burress resigning and I'm not convinced Mathis is the solution here either. I'd like to give Maybin a legit shot with some capable LBs and safetys behind him to pick up the slack. Scott isn't cutting it and it's time for him to go.

Landry would be great.

Not a fan of Brock, not at that spot anyway.

I love your last 4 picks, all of them, very much. Vernon and Bradham have the athleticism to be great, which is all you can ask for in a late round pick. Lester is a stud.

Monsterxman · 01-20-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NYJCAP2

Get off the Osweiler train before it starts, dudes not ready.

Like it otherwise.

I agree, Besides his size, the guy has nothing.
Has bad mechanics, arm is average at best, doesn't have good accuracy, shot puts the ball, played out of the gun...

The guy is not even as good as Eric Ainge.

Watch him against Boise State... The only passes he completes are check downs... and half those are behind the rb.

Watch him against USC and he throws about 25 screen passes.

I wouldn't be happy with this guy period... 2nd round is flat out crazy.

Bronxville Jets Fan · 01-20-2012, 09:24 AM

Also, Lester is staying at Bama for another year.

HessStation · 01-20-2012, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Much ado about Nothing

FA:

Pouha

Burress

Laron Landry

Robert Mathis

Swap firsts with someone in the 20's, pick up their 2nd, 4th, and 2013 1/2.

1: Cordy Glenn OT/G Georgia (Groundz and Poundz is on)

2: Brock Osweiler QB ASU

2: Colby Fleener TE Stanford

3: Jairus Wright WR Arkansas

4: Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU

4: Robert Lester FS Alabama

5: Nigel Bradham ILB/OLB FSU

6: Olivier Vernon DE/OLB Miami

7: Drew Butler P Georgia

Someone here mentioned Lester came out this week and is staying, Bronx. I liked him too in the mid rounds. **** Plex. I don't want him on the team. Bad, bad influence. I like the Fleener pick a lot.

JetsOptimist · 01-20-2012, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Much ado about Nothing

FA:

Pouha

Burress

Laron Landry

Robert Mathis

Swap firsts with someone in the 20's, pick up their 2nd, 4th, and 2013 1/2.

1: Cordy Glenn OT/G Georgia (Groundz and Poundz is on)

2: Brock Osweiler QB ASU

2: Colby Fleener TE Stanford

3: Jairus Wright WR Arkansas

4: Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU

4: Robert Lester FS Alabama

5: Nigel Bradham ILB/OLB FSU

6: Olivier Vernon DE/OLB Miami

7: Drew Butler P Georgia

Burress sucks man. If you replace him with Garcon, I'd be thrilled.

Beerfish · 01-20-2012, 10:17 AM

According to a projection based on the work by the dude that has been like 90% success on the comp picks the last few years the jets have 4 comp picks coming.

TheMikeIsHot · 01-20-2012, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerfish

According to a projection based on the work by the dude that has been like 90% success on the comp picks the last few years the jets have 4 comp picks coming.

Any idea what rounds they might be in?

Either way it's good news because they need to add some depth to this team. I'm sure they will just trade them all away though.

JamaicanJetFan · 01-20-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

Any idea what rounds they might be in?

Either way it's good news because they need to add some depth to this team. I'm sure they will just trade them all away though.

You can't trade comp picks. And I believe it's something like a 5th, 2 6th's, and a 7th.

TheMikeIsHot · 01-20-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JamaicanJetFan

You can't trade comp picks. And I believe it's something like a 5th, 2 6th's, and a 7th.

But you can trade all of your other picks, which is probably what will happen.

Untouchable · 01-20-2012, 04:15 PM

I don't want Burress back under any cicumstance. No more dinosaurs or ex-cons. We need to get younger and more dynamic at receiver, Burress is totally useless between the 20's at this point. The only thing the guy is good for is jump balls in the redzone. Give that role to a guy like Patrick Turner or draft a big receiver, be it a guy like Jeffery or Floyd in the 1st round or Nick Toon or Dwight Jones in the 2nd/3rd.

And if I'm drafting a QB in the 2nd, my personal favorite is Nick Foles. Maybe the most NFL ready QB in the draft after Luck while Osweiler is more of a project. Although I still think we'll just sign a young vet like Quinn or Henne to push/backup Sanchez.

I think we have to add another LB as well, be it through FA or the draft. Thomas is most likely gone and judging by the reports, so is Bart Scott. We can't go into next season with guys like Mauga and Westerman as starters and expect to field a top notch defense.

Other than that, I really like the Glenn, Fleener, and Wright picks. The addition of Landry in the secondary would be a pretty big plus as well.

Much ado about Nothing · 01-20-2012, 05:51 PM

I dot get the problem with Burress. He's dominant as a possession WR and there's plenty of youth and speed thrown to the WRs and offense in general. I'm not into the idea of a team built to hand out hugs and kisses to Sanchez. With Wright and Holmes there would be killer speed at WR. 99.9% of improvement in the passing game will come because if Sanchez or whoever improves the QB play here anyway.

patman · 01-21-2012, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Much ado about Nothing

FA:

Pouha

Burress

Laron Landry

Robert Mathis

Swap firsts with someone in the 20's, pick up their 2nd, 4th, and 2013 1/2.

1: Cordy Glenn OT/G Georgia (Groundz and Poundz is on)

2: Brock Osweiler QB ASU

2: Colby Fleener TE Stanford

3: Jairus Wright WR Arkansas

4: Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU

4: Robert Lester FS Alabama

5: Nigel Bradham ILB/OLB FSU

6: Olivier Vernon DE/OLB Miami

7: Drew Butler P Georgia

It would not kick ass because it does not stand a chance of happening.

move down 10 spots in the first for and get 2 #2s and a 4th? When has a trade been made for such a abundance of picks. you move down 10 spots and get a 2nd your doing good.

Robert lester is staying ins school, Landry may require ankle surgery on his achillies. Flemmer is a guy you already have.

Much ado about Nothing · 01-21-2012, 09:28 AM

Ten spots?

Lester back in school "sucks." it gets quotes because school is, in fact, cool.

patman · 01-21-2012, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Much ado about Nothing

Ten spots?

Do you think the jets are going to get all these picks for moving down in the first without going down a minimum of 10 slots? the jets are picking at 17 the pats have two picks at 27 and 30-32. that leaves 2 or three teams for the trades to trade with. Which of those teams do you see trading all those picks"

Balt has 4 FA that they need to sign, I don't see Newsome trading his draft.
The Giants, I dont see those two teams trading with all the bad blood.
SF has Smith, Staley, rogers and Goldson as FA that may need to be replaced.
That leaves the Packers as the only team, and they may if Richardosn is there.

01-20-2012, 01:04 AM	#1
Much ado about Nothing Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,602	How would this not kick ass? FA: Pouha Burress Laron Landry Robert Mathis Swap firsts with someone in the 20's, pick up their 2nd, 4th, and 2013 1/2. 1: Cordy Glenn OT/G Georgia (Groundz and Poundz is on) 2: Brock Osweiler QB ASU 2: Colby Fleener TE Stanford 3: Jairus Wright WR Arkansas 4: Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU 4: Robert Lester FS Alabama 5: Nigel Bradham ILB/OLB FSU 6: Olivier Vernon DE/OLB Miami 7: Drew Butler P Georgia

01-20-2012, 01:42 AM	#2
Much ado about Nothing Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,602	QB: Sanchez / Osweiler / Brunell (Who is rotfl) FB: Connor RB : Greene / McKnight / Hillman / Powell TE: Keller (as an HB type) / Fleener / Cumberland OL: D'Brick / Slauson / Mangold / Moore / Glenn / Ducasse / The guy from the Packers WR: Holmes / Burress / Kerley / Wright DL: Wilkerson / Pouha / DeVito / Ellis / Dixon / Pito LB: Mathis / Scott / Harris / Pace / Westerman / Magua CB: Revis / Cromartie / Wilson / Strickland S: Landry / Leonard-Smith / Lester Last edited by Much ado about Nothing; 01-20-2012 at 02:11 AM.

01-20-2012, 01:50 AM	#3
Much ado about Nothing Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,602	2013 first round pick because I'm really feeling extra douchey: Alex Okafor

01-20-2012, 01:53 AM	#4
NYJCAP2 All League Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 3,817	Get off the Osweiler train before it starts, dudes not ready. Like it otherwise.

01-20-2012, 07:12 AM	#6
Bronxville Jets Fan The eternal optimist Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastchester, NY Posts: 1,122	Your trade-down compensation seems a little too generous. Recall in 2010, the Fins traded down from like 10 to 28 and only picked up an extra second rounder.

01-20-2012, 07:20 AM	#7
TheMikeIsHot All Pro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 7,043	Swapping picks would not be nearly as beneficial in terms of picks coming back as you put here. The Jets will get a 2, and maybe 4 or 5 for moving down to the mid-20s... not an extra 1 next year. I don't like the signings much, mostly the Burress resigning and I'm not convinced Mathis is the solution here either. I'd like to give Maybin a legit shot with some capable LBs and safetys behind him to pick up the slack. Scott isn't cutting it and it's time for him to go. Landry would be great. Not a fan of Brock, not at that spot anyway. I love your last 4 picks, all of them, very much. Vernon and Bradham have the athleticism to be great, which is all you can ask for in a late round pick. Lester is a stud.

01-20-2012, 09:24 AM	#9
Bronxville Jets Fan The eternal optimist Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Eastchester, NY Posts: 1,122	Also, Lester is staying at Bama for another year.

01-20-2012, 10:17 AM	#12
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,083	According to a projection based on the work by the dude that has been like 90% success on the comp picks the last few years the jets have 4 comp picks coming.

01-20-2012, 04:15 PM	#16
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,404	I don't want Burress back under any cicumstance. No more dinosaurs or ex-cons. We need to get younger and more dynamic at receiver, Burress is totally useless between the 20's at this point. The only thing the guy is good for is jump balls in the redzone. Give that role to a guy like Patrick Turner or draft a big receiver, be it a guy like Jeffery or Floyd in the 1st round or Nick Toon or Dwight Jones in the 2nd/3rd. And if I'm drafting a QB in the 2nd, my personal favorite is Nick Foles. Maybe the most NFL ready QB in the draft after Luck while Osweiler is more of a project. Although I still think we'll just sign a young vet like Quinn or Henne to push/backup Sanchez. I think we have to add another LB as well, be it through FA or the draft. Thomas is most likely gone and judging by the reports, so is Bart Scott. We can't go into next season with guys like Mauga and Westerman as starters and expect to field a top notch defense. Other than that, I really like the Glenn, Fleener, and Wright picks. The addition of Landry in the secondary would be a pretty big plus as well.

01-20-2012, 05:51 PM	#17
Much ado about Nothing Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,602	I dot get the problem with Burress. He's dominant as a possession WR and there's plenty of youth and speed thrown to the WRs and offense in general. I'm not into the idea of a team built to hand out hugs and kisses to Sanchez. With Wright and Holmes there would be killer speed at WR. 99.9% of improvement in the passing game will come because if Sanchez or whoever improves the QB play here anyway.

01-21-2012, 09:28 AM	#19
Much ado about Nothing Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,602	Ten spots? Lester back in school "sucks." it gets quotes because school is, in fact, cool.