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chirorob · 03-03-2012, 01:23 PM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382577]As one of the very few first-guessers on this topic I look forward to gloating when this guy lights people up this year.

Manning will be a beast. A highly motivated beast.

He is not "one hit away from a wheelchair" as some have suggested. [B] His neck is as stable as any other QBs in the NFL[/B]. If he were to get injured it would not be bc of his neck being weak. At this point it is all about regaining the muscle memory and building up his strength.[/QUOTE]

Do you even know what happens when you do a fusion? about permanent loss of motion in the neck due to fusing of the joint. About the abnormal pressures put on the spinal joints immediately above and below the joint as the body tries to compensate.

The fusion sight will not break, or is no more likely to break than any other spot in his neck. The ongoing damage to the joints above and below will be sped up. Also, if he has degeneration in one spot in his neck, there will be degenerative changes in the other joints as well. Just not as severe yet.

I see people like this every week.

chirorob · 03-03-2012, 01:25 PM

[QUOTE=Untouchable;4382678]Arm strength doesn't seem to be an issue.

If Manning's health checks out we'd be stupid not to make a serious play for him.[/QUOTE]

Arm strength is good that day. I'm curious what it was like the next day, when the soreness kicks in and the inflammation gets worse? Does he get weakness for a few days, or is he still good to go?

I don't know, I'm curious.

sg3 · 03-03-2012, 01:26 PM

he demonstrated arguably the greatest arm strength ever for a person throwing a football from a rascal scooter

DDNYjets · 03-03-2012, 01:51 PM

[QUOTE=chirorob;4382876]Do you even know what happens when you do a fusion? about permanent loss of motion in the neck due to fusing of the joint. About the abnormal pressures put on the spinal joints immediately above and below the joint as the body tries to compensate.

The fusion sight will not break, or is no more likely to break than any other spot in his neck. The ongoing damage to the joints above and below will be sped up. Also, if he has degeneration in one spot in his neck, there will be degenerative changes in the other joints as well. Just not as severe yet.

I see people like this every week.[/QUOTE]

If you read my other posts I said I was just repeating what I heard the reports are. I also said that I have had some experience with family that have had similar procedures. Not claiming I am an expert by any stretch of the imagination.

I appreciate you shedding light on the situation for us. If you are someone that deals with this type of injury I would be interested in hearing your opinion once we find out what kind of shape he is in.

Dimitri_0515 · 03-03-2012, 01:53 PM

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JetsNeedNewton · 03-03-2012, 02:01 PM

[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4382939]The only ball I can see being thrown was the 1st one, which indeed was a very nice, hard thrown ball.[/QUOTE]

You have to squint and I an only see the ball in the first throw too, can see the arm motion in the others. Looks a lot like the throws in the McElroy videos. :rolleyes:

DDNYjets · 03-03-2012, 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=JetsNeedNewton;4382947]You have to squint and I an only see the ball in the first throw too, can see the arm motion in the others. Looks a lot like the throws in the McElroy videos. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

LOL. My only question is, Why the f*ck is he throwing at Duke? Are his doctors located there?

Dimitri_0515 · 03-03-2012, 02:08 PM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382952]LOL. My only question is, Why the f*ck is he throwing at Duke? Are his doctors located there?[/QUOTE]

Read the article. His former offensive coordinator in Tennessee is the head coach at Duke now.

DDNYjets · 03-03-2012, 02:20 PM

[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4382962]Read the article. His former offensive coordinator in Tennessee is the head coach at Duke now.[/QUOTE]

Thank You.

I rarely read the articles, LOL.

Dimitri_0515 · 03-03-2012, 02:23 PM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382976]Thank You.

I rarely read the articles, LOL.[/QUOTE]

Soright but how can you be part of discussions if you don't READ. It's good for you too. :P

DDNYjets · 03-03-2012, 02:25 PM

[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4382982]Soright but how can you be part of discussions if you don't READ. It's good for you too. :P[/QUOTE]

I prefer to spew some sh*t and wait to see what happens.

Dimitri_0515 · 03-03-2012, 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382986]I prefer to spew some sh*t and wait to see what happens.[/QUOTE]

Oh common!

Charlie Brown · 03-03-2012, 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382681]Hes 36 years old and will demand money we cannot afford. I dont see the NYJETS persuing Peyton Manning.[/QUOTE]

Tanny is about Tanny who is an excellent cap guy but who really has no plan on how to build a football team. :rolleyes:

So with that last statement as the back drop if Manning is healthy you can beat your last dollar the Jets will pursue him.

You can count on it!!!

Charlie Brown · 03-03-2012, 02:37 PM

[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;4382832]Not a bad thing? That sounds like a nightmare scenario[/QUOTE]

Yes that was a nightmare scenario and yet we have posters out here saying that they think that would be a good thing for the Jets....

And no you can not make it up.....:rolleyes:

jetssjumets · 03-03-2012, 02:38 PM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382986]I prefer to spew some sh*t and wait to see what happens.[/QUOTE]

:)

LMAO

GMCJETS · 03-03-2012, 02:42 PM

Hypothetical scenario the NYJETS acquire Peyton Manning what happens to Mark Sanchez?

Dimitri_0515 · 03-03-2012, 03:02 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4383013]Hypothetical scenario the NYJETS acquire Peyton Manning what happens to Mark Sanchez?[/QUOTE]

He's gone

GMCJETS · 03-03-2012, 03:07 PM

[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4383044]He's gone[/QUOTE]

Cut or trade? What about his salary and ramifications that go along with it?

jetssjumets · 03-03-2012, 03:11 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4383013]Hypothetical scenario the NYJETS acquire Peyton Manning what happens to Mark Sanchez?[/QUOTE]

If the Jets did that, I am done with this team.

Dimitri_0515 · 03-03-2012, 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=jetssjumets;4383054]If the Jets did that, I am done with this team.[/QUOTE]

+1 It would be an incredible hit btw both ways, trading and cutting.

03-03-2012, 01:23 PM	#41
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,826	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382577]As one of the very few first-guessers on this topic I look forward to gloating when this guy lights people up this year. Manning will be a beast. A highly motivated beast. He is not "one hit away from a wheelchair" as some have suggested. [B] His neck is as stable as any other QBs in the NFL[/B]. If he were to get injured it would not be bc of his neck being weak. At this point it is all about regaining the muscle memory and building up his strength.[/QUOTE] Do you even know what happens when you do a fusion? about permanent loss of motion in the neck due to fusing of the joint. About the abnormal pressures put on the spinal joints immediately above and below the joint as the body tries to compensate. The fusion sight will not break, or is no more likely to break than any other spot in his neck. The ongoing damage to the joints above and below will be sped up. Also, if he has degeneration in one spot in his neck, there will be degenerative changes in the other joints as well. Just not as severe yet. I see people like this every week.

03-03-2012, 01:25 PM	#42
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,826	[QUOTE=Untouchable;4382678]Arm strength doesn't seem to be an issue. If Manning's health checks out we'd be stupid not to make a serious play for him.[/QUOTE] Arm strength is good that day. I'm curious what it was like the next day, when the soreness kicks in and the inflammation gets worse? Does he get weakness for a few days, or is he still good to go? I don't know, I'm curious.

03-03-2012, 01:26 PM	#43
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,919	he demonstrated arguably the greatest arm strength ever for a person throwing a football from a rascal scooter

03-03-2012, 01:51 PM	#44
DDNYjets Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,579	[QUOTE=chirorob;4382876]Do you even know what happens when you do a fusion? about permanent loss of motion in the neck due to fusing of the joint. About the abnormal pressures put on the spinal joints immediately above and below the joint as the body tries to compensate. The fusion sight will not break, or is no more likely to break than any other spot in his neck. The ongoing damage to the joints above and below will be sped up. Also, if he has degeneration in one spot in his neck, there will be degenerative changes in the other joints as well. Just not as severe yet. I see people like this every week.[/QUOTE] If you read my other posts I said I was just repeating what I heard the reports are. I also said that I have had some experience with family that have had similar procedures. Not claiming I am an expert by any stretch of the imagination. I appreciate you shedding light on the situation for us. If you are someone that deals with this type of injury I would be interested in hearing your opinion once we find out what kind of shape he is in.

03-03-2012, 01:53 PM	#45
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	[QUOTE=k.Rhodes25;4382672][url]

03-03-2012, 02:01 PM	#46
JetsNeedNewton Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,772	[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4382939]The only ball I can see being thrown was the 1st one, which indeed was a very nice, hard thrown ball.[/QUOTE] You have to squint and I an only see the ball in the first throw too, can see the arm motion in the others. Looks a lot like the throws in the McElroy videos. :rolleyes:

03-03-2012, 02:03 PM	#47
DDNYjets Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,579	[QUOTE=JetsNeedNewton;4382947]You have to squint and I an only see the ball in the first throw too, can see the arm motion in the others. Looks a lot like the throws in the McElroy videos. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] LOL. My only question is, Why the f*ck is he throwing at Duke? Are his doctors located there?

03-03-2012, 02:08 PM	#48
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382952]LOL. My only question is, Why the f*ck is he throwing at Duke? Are his doctors located there?[/QUOTE] Read the article. His former offensive coordinator in Tennessee is the head coach at Duke now.

03-03-2012, 02:20 PM	#49
DDNYjets Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,579	[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4382962]Read the article. His former offensive coordinator in Tennessee is the head coach at Duke now.[/QUOTE] Thank You. I rarely read the articles, LOL.

03-03-2012, 02:23 PM	#50
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382976]Thank You. I rarely read the articles, LOL.[/QUOTE] Soright but how can you be part of discussions if you don't READ. It's good for you too. :P

03-03-2012, 02:25 PM	#51
DDNYjets Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,579	[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4382982]Soright but how can you be part of discussions if you don't READ. It's good for you too. :P[/QUOTE] I prefer to spew some sh*t and wait to see what happens.

03-03-2012, 02:26 PM	#52
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382986]I prefer to spew some sh*t and wait to see what happens.[/QUOTE] Oh common!

03-03-2012, 02:30 PM	#53
Charlie Brown Please Pray for the Safety of Everyone!!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 1999 Location: New York City Posts: 5,578	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4382681]Hes 36 years old and will demand money we cannot afford. I dont see the NYJETS persuing Peyton Manning.[/QUOTE] Tanny is about Tanny who is an excellent cap guy but who really has no plan on how to build a football team. :rolleyes: So with that last statement as the back drop if Manning is healthy you can beat your last dollar the Jets will pursue him. You can count on it!!!

03-03-2012, 02:37 PM	#54
Charlie Brown Please Pray for the Safety of Everyone!!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 1999 Location: New York City Posts: 5,578	[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;4382832]Not a bad thing? That sounds like a nightmare scenario[/QUOTE] Yes that was a nightmare scenario and yet we have posters out here saying that they think that would be a good thing for the Jets.... And no you can not make it up.....:rolleyes:

03-03-2012, 02:38 PM	#55
jetssjumets Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3,035	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4382986]I prefer to spew some sh*t and wait to see what happens.[/QUOTE] :) LMAO

03-03-2012, 02:42 PM	#56
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	Hypothetical scenario the NYJETS acquire Peyton Manning what happens to Mark Sanchez?

03-03-2012, 03:02 PM	#57
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4383013]Hypothetical scenario the NYJETS acquire Peyton Manning what happens to Mark Sanchez?[/QUOTE] He's gone

03-03-2012, 03:07 PM	#58
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=Dimitri_0515;4383044]He's gone[/QUOTE] Cut or trade? What about his salary and ramifications that go along with it?

03-03-2012, 03:11 PM	#59
jetssjumets Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 3,035	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4383013]Hypothetical scenario the NYJETS acquire Peyton Manning what happens to Mark Sanchez?[/QUOTE] If the Jets did that, I am done with this team.

03-03-2012, 03:16 PM	#60
Dimitri_0515 Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,182	[QUOTE=jetssjumets;4383054]If the Jets did that, I am done with this team.[/QUOTE] +1 It would be an incredible hit btw both ways, trading and cutting.