Cosell thinks Luck sucks and RGIII is the truth - Jets Insider.com Forums

Paradis · 03-07-2012, 10:47 AM

Well, there you have it folks. RGIII = superior Vick, Luck = sounds like another Carson Palmer.

[QUOTE]Robert Griffin III - QB - Player
After watching two of Baylor QB Robert Griffin III's game tapes, NFL Films guru Greg Cosell observed that Griffin's arm strength "stood out" and he showed "natural velocity" as a passer.
Cosell was impressed by RG3's ability to throw from different arm angles, "excellent deep ball," a "wow element," and easy, natural passing motion. Cosell believes Griffin must work on his comfort making intermediate throws along with "some undisciplined plays" when he gets outside the pocket. Cosell also called Griffin's 4.40 forty time the "most meaningless stat of the Combine."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Andrew Luck - QB - Player
After watching three of Stanford QB Andrew Luck's game tapes, NFL Films guru Greg Cosell "did not see Luck as a special passer."
Cosell watches more game tape than any human on the planet, so he knows what to look for. Cosell credits Luck for his sharp mechanics, ability to manipulate defensive backs with his eyes, Luck's "efficiency" as a passer, and his consistency in throwing "catchable" balls. Cosell noticed that Luck tends to lift his back foot before ripping passes, which can negatively impact velocity. "Did not drive the ball," Cosell wrote. "A touch passer."[/QUOTE]

ozu · 03-07-2012, 11:03 AM

Not sure that's accurate. He just said on Twitter that he hasn't seen enough of either, 2-3 games each, to make an evaluation.

Joe W. Namath · 03-07-2012, 11:10 AM

No where in there does he say that Luck sucks. Stupid thread title.

DDNYjets · 03-07-2012, 11:27 AM

Who cares?

32 NFL GMs will give their first born to draft this kid.

As we get closer to the draft there will be more and more "experts" trying to pick out flaws in Luck b.c if he busts they will be able to say "I told you so". The truth is there was no weakness in his game at the collegiate level and everyone believes he skill set will translate perfectly to the NFL game.

If Luck busts, there will be the usual naysayers that will blame Irsay and the new GM but the truth is this is a no-brainer and must-pick player. The GM will not be held accountable for how Luck turns out. It is an organizational decision.

Paradis · 03-07-2012, 11:29 AM

[QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4386805]No where in there does he say that Luck sucks. Stupid thread title.[/QUOTE]

What's that? You don't want me jumping to mal or mis informed conclusions about players??

re-he-he-he-he-ally....

crasherino · 03-07-2012, 11:57 AM

In the games I've seen with Luck, I didn't see him "drive the ball" too much, either. It didn't seem like he had to though. When he needed to put mustard on the ball, he did. But, when a nice touch pass was called for, that's what threw.

I didn't see all that many 15 yard outs from his receivers where he needed to drive the ball outside the numbers. Doesn't mean he can't do it - only that he didn't do it all that much when I watched him.

jetswin · 03-07-2012, 11:58 AM

Howard?

dmitexxi · 03-07-2012, 12:23 PM

[QUOTE=Paradis;4386776]Well, there you have it folks. RGIII = superior Vick, Luck = sounds like another Carson Palmer.[/QUOTE]
His obervation makes Luck sounds like the second comming of Tom (Im ghey) Brady.

03-07-2012, 10:47 AM	#1
Paradis Is waiting for Ryan Mallet All Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the 80s Posts: 7,108	Cosell thinks Luck sucks and RGIII is the truth Well, there you have it folks. RGIII = superior Vick, Luck = sounds like another Carson Palmer. [QUOTE]Robert Griffin III - QB - Player After watching two of Baylor QB Robert Griffin III's game tapes, NFL Films guru Greg Cosell observed that Griffin's arm strength "stood out" and he showed "natural velocity" as a passer. Cosell was impressed by RG3's ability to throw from different arm angles, "excellent deep ball," a "wow element," and easy, natural passing motion. Cosell believes Griffin must work on his comfort making intermediate throws along with "some undisciplined plays" when he gets outside the pocket. Cosell also called Griffin's 4.40 forty time the "most meaningless stat of the Combine."[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Andrew Luck - QB - Player After watching three of Stanford QB Andrew Luck's game tapes, NFL Films guru Greg Cosell "did not see Luck as a special passer." Cosell watches more game tape than any human on the planet, so he knows what to look for. Cosell credits Luck for his sharp mechanics, ability to manipulate defensive backs with his eyes, Luck's "efficiency" as a passer, and his consistency in throwing "catchable" balls. Cosell noticed that Luck tends to lift his back foot before ripping passes, which can negatively impact velocity. "Did not drive the ball," Cosell wrote. "A touch passer."[/QUOTE]

03-07-2012, 11:03 AM	#2
ozu in Section 135, Row 28. All League Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Hoboken Posts: 3,922	Not sure that's accurate. He just said on Twitter that he hasn't seen enough of either, 2-3 games each, to make an evaluation.

03-07-2012, 11:10 AM	#3
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,829	No where in there does he say that Luck sucks. Stupid thread title.

03-07-2012, 11:27 AM	#4
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,303	Who cares? 32 NFL GMs will give their first born to draft this kid. As we get closer to the draft there will be more and more "experts" trying to pick out flaws in Luck b.c if he busts they will be able to say "I told you so". The truth is there was no weakness in his game at the collegiate level and everyone believes he skill set will translate perfectly to the NFL game. If Luck busts, there will be the usual naysayers that will blame Irsay and the new GM but the truth is this is a no-brainer and must-pick player. The GM will not be held accountable for how Luck turns out. It is an organizational decision.

03-07-2012, 11:29 AM	#5
Paradis Is waiting for Ryan Mallet All Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the 80s Posts: 7,108	[QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4386805]No where in there does he say that Luck sucks. Stupid thread title.[/QUOTE] What's that? You don't want me jumping to mal or mis informed conclusions about players?? re-he-he-he-he-ally....

03-07-2012, 11:57 AM	#6
crasherino Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 16,826	In the games I've seen with Luck, I didn't see him "drive the ball" too much, either. It didn't seem like he had to though. When he needed to put mustard on the ball, he did. But, when a nice touch pass was called for, that's what threw. I didn't see all that many 15 yard outs from his receivers where he needed to drive the ball outside the numbers. Doesn't mean he can't do it - only that he didn't do it all that much when I watched him.

03-07-2012, 11:58 AM	#7
jetswin stumblin mumblin butt fumblin Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Westchester Co. Posts: 35,468	Howard?

03-07-2012, 12:23 PM	#8
dmitexxi RIP JF XXI Forever! Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Long Island Posts: 2,029	[QUOTE=Paradis;4386776]Well, there you have it folks. RGIII = superior Vick, Luck = sounds like another Carson Palmer.[/QUOTE] His obervation makes Luck sounds like the second comming of Tom (Im ghey) Brady.