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caster · 03-10-2012, 01:48 PM

Created with Ferguson and Sanchez restructuring of contracts

Let'sGo.....!!!:yes:

Untouchable · 03-10-2012, 01:51 PM

Has the roll over been taken into effect yet?

Didn't we have like $8 million of cap space last year that was supposed to carry over to this year?

If the Jets have over $20 million in cap space to work with, then signing Mario Williams should be a foregone conclusion.

C Mart · 03-10-2012, 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=Untouchable;4391717]Has the roll over been taken into effect yet?

Didn't we have like $8 million of cap space last year that was supposed to carry over to this year?

If the Jets have over $20 million in cap space to work with, then signing Mario Williams should be a foregone conclusion.[/QUOTE]

Not sure but they needed that excess cap space just to be under the '12 cap due to other players '12 salaries/cap number increasing

Play2Win · 03-10-2012, 01:56 PM

the 14 mill includes the roll over from last season

Beerfish · 03-10-2012, 02:00 PM

I would rather pass on Williams and fill a number of other holes. ILB, RT and OLB perhaps. I like Williams alot but if we can divy up the cap dollars and fill 2 or 3 holes we might be better served.

srobjets · 03-10-2012, 02:06 PM

Not enough, too many holes to fill.

ComfortablyNumb · 03-10-2012, 02:10 PM

Cap will go up too so we'll be in better shape. They've been in meetings trying to bump it up the last few days.

Savage69 · 03-10-2012, 02:14 PM

[QUOTE=Untouchable;4391717]Has the roll over been taken into effect yet?

Didn't we have like $8 million of cap space last year that was supposed to carry over to this year?

If the Jets have over $20 million in cap space to work with, then signing Mario Williams should be a foregone conclusion.[/QUOTE]

No way would Revis report to camp if he's not the highest paid Defensive player..

vinco · 03-10-2012, 02:16 PM

[QUOTE=C Mart;4391724]Not sure but they needed that excess cap space just to be under the '12 cap due to other players '12 salaries/cap number increasing[/QUOTE]

I am pretty this is not true. Jets cap of 120 million was with increases. This was way before the rolling over of the 7/8 million. I have been checking on this cap situation on jets cap website for over 6 months . If all the info is correct than jets should have 7/8 million from rollover, 7.5 million from ferguson and then the cap relief from sanchez which looks like 6.3 million. That would be over 21 million.

Untouchable · 03-10-2012, 02:17 PM

[QUOTE=Savage69;4391753]No way would Revis report to camp if he's not the highest paid Defensive player..[/QUOTE]

Then trade him.

If the Rams can get a kings ransom for the rights to a totally unproven QB like Griffin, then the Jets could get a massive haul for arguably the best defensive player in the league who is entering his prime.

With a beast passrusher like Williams, Revis' value to this defense decreases pretty significantly.

HoustonJET · 03-10-2012, 02:18 PM

[QUOTE=Savage69;4391753]No way would Revis report to camp if he's not the highest paid Defensive player..[/QUOTE]

You actually believe that?

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 03-10-2012, 02:21 PM

[QUOTE=Beerfish;4391731]I would rather pass on Williams [B]and fill a number of other holes.[/B] ILB, RT and OLB perhaps. I like Williams alot but if we can divy up the cap dollars and fill 2 or 3 holes we might be better served.[/QUOTE]

Safety, RT & OLB'er in that order.

Savage69 · 03-10-2012, 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=Untouchable;4391760]Then trade him.

If the Rams can get a kings ransom for the rights to a [B]totally unproven QB [/B]like Griffin, then the Jets could get a massive haul for arguably the best defensive player in the league who is entering his prime.

With a beast passrusher like Williams, Revis' value to this defense decreases pretty significantly.[/QUOTE]

I hear you UT but with the new rookie wage scale it's not as bad as it was and as great as Revis is he's not a QB..Plus everyone knows he's holdout prone.. Plus crazy Snyder gave up his first rd picks for the next decade..:P

Savage69 · 03-10-2012, 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=HoustonJET;4391761]You actually believe that?[/QUOTE]

Yep and he's held out twice already..

jetsmetsrangers · 03-10-2012, 02:23 PM

[QUOTE=Untouchable;4391760]Then trade him.

If the Rams can get a kings ransom for the rights to a totally unproven QB like Griffin, then the Jets could get a massive haul for arguably the best defensive player in the league who is entering his prime.

With a beast passrusher like Williams, Revis' value to this defense decreases pretty significantly.[/QUOTE]

Love Williams but in 2010 the Texans ranked dead last in pass defense....Big reason they went hard after Joseph in FA.....

Wish it were that simple but Revis is a special player...Not sure Williams solves the Jets problems with Revis gone....

King P · 03-10-2012, 02:26 PM

[QUOTE=jetsmetsrangers;4391774]Love Williams but in 2010 the Texans ranked dead last in pass defense....Big reason they went hard after Joseph in FA.....

Wish it were that simple but Revis is a special player...Not sure Williams solves the Jets problems with Revis gone....[/QUOTE]
And in 08 we were ranked 30th in pass defense with Revis on the team.

The improvement in their defense had more to do with a change in the scheme rather than the addition of new players.

jetsmetsrangers · 03-10-2012, 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=King P;4391775]And in 08 we were ranked 30th in pass defense with Revis on the team.

The improvement in their defense had more to do with a change in the scheme rather than the addition of new players.[/QUOTE]

IMO Joseph made a big difference and allowed them to change their scheme because he is a premier CB....

Also in 2008 i do not think Revis was considered all-world like he is now....I believe 2009 was his big breakout year.....

Savage69 · 03-10-2012, 02:35 PM

[QUOTE=jetsmetsrangers;4391780]IMO Joseph made a big difference and allowed them to change their scheme because he is a premier CB....

[B]Also in 2008 i do not think Revis was considered all-world like he is now[/B]....I believe 2009 was his big breakout year.....[/QUOTE]

No but he made his first Pro Bowl which wasn't too shabby..

jetsmetsrangers · 03-10-2012, 02:42 PM

[QUOTE=Savage69;4391782]No but he made his first Pro Bowl which wasn't too shabby..[/QUOTE]

I agree....Not quite Revis Island yet but pretty damn good....:)

Savage69 · 03-10-2012, 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=jetsmetsrangers;4391786]I agree....Not quite Revis Island yet but pretty damn good....:)[/QUOTE]

He was just a inlet then with a little moat..

03-10-2012, 01:48 PM	#1
caster Waterboy Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 99	$14 Million in Cap space Created with Ferguson and Sanchez restructuring of contracts Let'sGo.....!!!:yes:

03-10-2012, 01:51 PM	#2
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	Has the roll over been taken into effect yet? Didn't we have like $8 million of cap space last year that was supposed to carry over to this year? If the Jets have over $20 million in cap space to work with, then signing Mario Williams should be a foregone conclusion.

03-10-2012, 01:54 PM	#3
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,304	[QUOTE=Untouchable;4391717]Has the roll over been taken into effect yet? Didn't we have like $8 million of cap space last year that was supposed to carry over to this year? If the Jets have over $20 million in cap space to work with, then signing Mario Williams should be a foregone conclusion.[/QUOTE] Not sure but they needed that excess cap space just to be under the '12 cap due to other players '12 salaries/cap number increasing

03-10-2012, 01:56 PM	#4
Play2Win Act as if... Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 1,508	the 14 mill includes the roll over from last season

03-10-2012, 02:00 PM	#5
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,067	I would rather pass on Williams and fill a number of other holes. ILB, RT and OLB perhaps. I like Williams alot but if we can divy up the cap dollars and fill 2 or 3 holes we might be better served.

03-10-2012, 02:06 PM	#6
srobjets Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 2,455	Not enough, too many holes to fill.

03-10-2012, 02:10 PM	#7
ComfortablyNumb Practice Squad Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 494	Cap will go up too so we'll be in better shape. They've been in meetings trying to bump it up the last few days.

03-10-2012, 02:14 PM	#8
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,276	[QUOTE=Untouchable;4391717]Has the roll over been taken into effect yet? Didn't we have like $8 million of cap space last year that was supposed to carry over to this year? If the Jets have over $20 million in cap space to work with, then signing Mario Williams should be a foregone conclusion.[/QUOTE] No way would Revis report to camp if he's not the highest paid Defensive player..

03-10-2012, 02:16 PM	#9
vinco Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 150	[QUOTE=C Mart;4391724]Not sure but they needed that excess cap space just to be under the '12 cap due to other players '12 salaries/cap number increasing[/QUOTE] I am pretty this is not true. Jets cap of 120 million was with increases. This was way before the rolling over of the 7/8 million. I have been checking on this cap situation on jets cap website for over 6 months . If all the info is correct than jets should have 7/8 million from rollover, 7.5 million from ferguson and then the cap relief from sanchez which looks like 6.3 million. That would be over 21 million.

03-10-2012, 02:17 PM	#10
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,403	[QUOTE=Savage69;4391753]No way would Revis report to camp if he's not the highest paid Defensive player..[/QUOTE] Then trade him. If the Rams can get a kings ransom for the rights to a totally unproven QB like Griffin, then the Jets could get a massive haul for arguably the best defensive player in the league who is entering his prime. With a beast passrusher like Williams, Revis' value to this defense decreases pretty significantly.

03-10-2012, 02:18 PM	#11
HoustonJET I got your back #6!... it's a part of my "AGENDA" Veteran Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Great state of TEXAS Posts: 182	[QUOTE=Savage69;4391753]No way would Revis report to camp if he's not the highest paid Defensive player..[/QUOTE] You actually believe that?

03-10-2012, 02:21 PM	#12
ARodFLKeysJetsFan Jets GM John Idzik is handling business.... Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Currently Norfolk, VA.... Posts: 18,325	[QUOTE=Beerfish;4391731]I would rather pass on Williams [B]and fill a number of other holes.[/B] ILB, RT and OLB perhaps. I like Williams alot but if we can divy up the cap dollars and fill 2 or 3 holes we might be better served.[/QUOTE] Safety, RT & OLB'er in that order.

03-10-2012, 02:22 PM	#13
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,276	[QUOTE=Untouchable;4391760]Then trade him. If the Rams can get a kings ransom for the rights to a [B]totally unproven QB [/B]like Griffin, then the Jets could get a massive haul for arguably the best defensive player in the league who is entering his prime. With a beast passrusher like Williams, Revis' value to this defense decreases pretty significantly.[/QUOTE] I hear you UT but with the new rookie wage scale it's not as bad as it was and as great as Revis is he's not a QB..Plus everyone knows he's holdout prone.. Plus crazy Snyder gave up his first rd picks for the next decade..:P

03-10-2012, 02:23 PM	#15
jetsmetsrangers Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,455	[QUOTE=Untouchable;4391760]Then trade him. If the Rams can get a kings ransom for the rights to a totally unproven QB like Griffin, then the Jets could get a massive haul for arguably the best defensive player in the league who is entering his prime. With a beast passrusher like Williams, Revis' value to this defense decreases pretty significantly.[/QUOTE] Love Williams but in 2010 the Texans ranked dead last in pass defense....Big reason they went hard after Joseph in FA..... Wish it were that simple but Revis is a special player...Not sure Williams solves the Jets problems with Revis gone....

03-10-2012, 02:26 PM	#16
King P Rookie Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NY Posts: 870	[QUOTE=jetsmetsrangers;4391774]Love Williams but in 2010 the Texans ranked dead last in pass defense....Big reason they went hard after Joseph in FA..... Wish it were that simple but Revis is a special player...Not sure Williams solves the Jets problems with Revis gone....[/QUOTE] And in 08 we were ranked 30th in pass defense with Revis on the team. The improvement in their defense had more to do with a change in the scheme rather than the addition of new players.

03-10-2012, 02:30 PM	#17
jetsmetsrangers Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,455	[QUOTE=King P;4391775]And in 08 we were ranked 30th in pass defense with Revis on the team. The improvement in their defense had more to do with a change in the scheme rather than the addition of new players.[/QUOTE] IMO Joseph made a big difference and allowed them to change their scheme because he is a premier CB.... Also in 2008 i do not think Revis was considered all-world like he is now....I believe 2009 was his big breakout year.....

03-10-2012, 02:35 PM	#18
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,276	[QUOTE=jetsmetsrangers;4391780]IMO Joseph made a big difference and allowed them to change their scheme because he is a premier CB.... [B]Also in 2008 i do not think Revis was considered all-world like he is now[/B]....I believe 2009 was his big breakout year.....[/QUOTE] No but he made his first Pro Bowl which wasn't too shabby..

03-10-2012, 02:42 PM	#19
jetsmetsrangers Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,455	[QUOTE=Savage69;4391782]No but he made his first Pro Bowl which wasn't too shabby..[/QUOTE] I agree....Not quite Revis Island yet but pretty damn good....:)

03-10-2012, 02:45 PM	#20
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,276	[QUOTE=jetsmetsrangers;4391786]I agree....Not quite Revis Island yet but pretty damn good....:)[/QUOTE] He was just a inlet then with a little moat..