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Pavilion · 03-16-2012, 06:10 PM

@SMorgan3090 @JennyVrentas hearing anything about Nelson?

@JennyVrentas Still visiting with team. RT @SMorgan3090: @JennyVrentas hearing anything about Nelson? #nyj

@NickSpano that's a good sign RT “@JennyVrentas: Still visiting with team. RT @SMorgan3090: @JennyVrentas hearing anything about Nelson? #nyj”

I tweeted Jenny and this was the reply

C Mart · 03-16-2012, 07:16 PM

Nelson's agent

[URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/joereedy"][B]Joe Reedy[/B] ‏ @[B]joereedy[/B] [/URL]
Reggie Nelson's trip to the Jets will continue tomorrow

RevisCroWilson · 03-16-2012, 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=C Mart;4400186]Nelson's agent

[URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/joereedy"][B]Joe Reedy[/B] ‏ @[B]joereedy[/B] [/URL]
Reggie Nelson's trip to the Jets will continue tomorrow[/QUOTE]

Very nice....get errrrr donne

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j e t s · 03-16-2012, 08:00 PM

[QUOTE=C Mart;4400186]Nelson's agent

[URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/joereedy"][B]Joe Reedy[/B] ‏ @[B]joereedy[/B] [/URL]
Reggie Nelson's trip to the Jets will continue tomorrow[/QUOTE]

Not his agent, media guy that covers the Bengals.

C Mart · 03-16-2012, 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=j e t s;4400232]Not his agent, media guy that covers the Bengals.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. My bad. I corrected it in another thread.

Buzzsaw · 03-16-2012, 09:16 PM

The Jets have $12.7 million in cap space according to PFT

10PennyToColes87 · 03-16-2012, 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;4400261]The Jets have $12.7 million in cap space according to PFT[/QUOTE]

Plenty to sign Nelson (and maybe Landry if Tanny gets creative).

C'mon Mike, make it happen.

Buzzsaw · 03-16-2012, 09:28 PM

Jenny Vrentas is saying that the $12.7 figure doesnt include the contracts for Stanton and Schillens.

DDNYjets · 03-16-2012, 09:32 PM

They arent going to spend it all. They will leave $10MM for rookies and contingency funds.

cant wait · 03-16-2012, 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4400270]They arent going to spend it all. They will leave $10MM for rookies and contingency funds.[/QUOTE]

More like 7M

10PennyToColes87 · 03-16-2012, 10:14 PM

[QUOTE=cant wait;4400278]More like 7M[/QUOTE]

I'd say 5M, so that means they can spend about 5M on another player, hopefully Nelson.

CanadaSteve · 03-17-2012, 12:59 AM

Right from Jason:

Projecting the Year 1 Rookie Salaries

With free agency underway and a number of questions as to just how much the Jets really have to spend I wanted to take a quick look at the potential rookie allotments for the team. The new CBA uses a slotted system for their rookie contracts where the expected total value and year one cap number are based on a percentage of a total number. Last year the number was $159 million in year 1 cap charges and $874 million in total contract value for all rookies drafted. The actual spend, based on information I have collected on rookie contracts, looks to have been $158.9 million and $860.2 million respectively.

With the numbers only expected to rise by the same percentage increase in the salary cap it looks as if the new limits will only be $159.3 million and $875.6 million this year. That should likely create a big problem for rookies and their agents because the small percentage in the cap does not increase equally with the increase in the minimum salary for an NFL player, which rose by 4%. Last year, for instance, the first rounders accounted for just over 40% of all Year 1 salary cap charges. For that ratio to stay intact the 7th round selections average year one cap charge would have to be under $390,000, the minimum wage in the NFL for 2011. So there is likely going to have to be money given up this season for the top end rookie class compared to last season.

In order to try to calculate a fair estimate I took last years minimum salary out of each players salary and determined just how much they were charged in excess of the $375,000 minimum. For instance Cam Newton’s cap charge would be reduced from $4,004,636 to $3,629,636. It represented a salary figure that was about 7 times higher than the final pick in the first round and 316 times higher than the final non-compensatory pick in the NFL draft. Since the minimum wage is constant regardless of draft round I wanted to keep the excess they can earn in line with the figures I had from last season.

Based on those numbers it would seem that Andrew Luck’s year one cap charge would reduce to $3.871 million from Newton’s $4.004 million the year before. Obviously there is some wiggle room in that number which occurs during negotiations and most likely the lower drafted guys will feel the brunt before they reduce the number 1 picks salary, but someone is getting hurt this season compared to last year in terms of signing bonus money. Agents are going to be pushing for more guarantees for their low round selections to make up for it. Likely another in a string of losses for the Players Association who really are getting beaten up left and right on this new CBA agreement

Here are the estimates for the Jets draft selections:

Round 1, pick 16 - $1,550,957
Round 2, pick 15- $767,332
Round 3, pick 14-$538,529
Round 4, pick 13-$498,758
Round 5, pick 19- $435,076
Round 6, pick 18- $414,953
Round 7, pick 17- $403,631
Total: $4,609,237

Compensatory picks are not included in the total numbers and each seems to be treated about the same despite the order of selection. We do expect the Jets to be awarded compensatory selections in the draft and those totals would be added to the actual draft total. The estimated numbers are as follows:

Round 3- $511,326
Round 4- $462,069
Round 5- $424,661
Round 6- $408,865
Round 7- $401,005

So the bottom line is the Jets will likely be allocated a minimum of $4.61 million of their salary cap to sign their rookies and that number will grow if they happen to be rewarded compensatory picks or picks via trade. Each player should replace another player making the minimum salary in 2012 so the net effect is only about $1.88 million in additional salary cap charges that has to be allocated for the 7 first round selections in 2012.

If anyone would like me to give a guesstimate for any other team please just send me an email with the team and what selections they are expected to have in the draft and I’ll put a post up on it. Im going to try to also follow all the draft selections to better model these estimates for the future, so if anyone has any salary data to pass along please feel free. All information is kept confidential if it comes from an unpublished source.

C Mart · 03-17-2012, 12:52 PM

[URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/BrianCoz"][B]Brian Costello[/B] ‏ @[B]BrianCoz[/B][/URL]
LaRon Landry's visit with Jets is tomorrow. He's at Patriots today.

[URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/JennyVrentas"][B]Jenny Vrentas[/B] ‏ @[B]JennyVrentas[/B][/URL]
Likely looking at short-term deals w/Landry. But in thin safety market, with many visits skedded, will $ go up + will Jets want to pay? [URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23nyj"]#[B]nyj[/B][/URL]

Landry still intends to make all his visits (Jets and 4 other teams, as of now). Looks like Jets now tmrw, as [URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/BrianCoz"]@[B]BrianCoz[/B][/URL] noted.

DDNYjets · 03-17-2012, 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=cant wait;4400278]More like 7M[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=10PennyToColes87;4400296]I'd say 5M, so that means they can spend about 5M on another player, hopefully Nelson.[/QUOTE]

It will cost at least $5MM to sign the rookies.

Last year they left about an $8MM contingency AFTER signing rookies which was meant to help them be under the cap this year b.c of the carry-over.

If Tanny thinks they are going to be in a similar situation next year, he may hold even more money.

03-16-2012, 06:10 PM	#361
Pavilion All Pro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: north jersey Posts: 1,220	@SMorgan3090 @JennyVrentas hearing anything about Nelson? @JennyVrentas Still visiting with team. RT @SMorgan3090: @JennyVrentas hearing anything about Nelson? #nyj @NickSpano that's a good sign RT “@JennyVrentas: Still visiting with team. RT @SMorgan3090: @JennyVrentas hearing anything about Nelson? #nyj” I tweeted Jenny and this was the reply

03-16-2012, 07:16 PM	#362
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,302	Nelson's agent [URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/joereedy"][B]Joe Reedy[/B] ‏ @[B]joereedy[/B] [/URL] Reggie Nelson's trip to the Jets will continue tomorrow

03-16-2012, 07:49 PM	#363
RevisCroWilson Rookie Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Old Bridge NJ Posts: 753	[QUOTE=C Mart;4400186]Nelson's agent [URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/joereedy"][B]Joe Reedy[/B] ‏ @[B]joereedy[/B] [/URL] Reggie Nelson's trip to the Jets will continue tomorrow[/QUOTE] Very nice....get errrrr donne Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk

03-16-2012, 08:00 PM	#364
j e t s Denial is not a life strategy. Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 1,360	[QUOTE=C Mart;4400186]Nelson's agent [URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/joereedy"][B]Joe Reedy[/B] ‏ @[B]joereedy[/B] [/URL] Reggie Nelson's trip to the Jets will continue tomorrow[/QUOTE] Not his agent, media guy that covers the Bengals.

03-16-2012, 08:06 PM	#365
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,302	[QUOTE=j e t s;4400232]Not his agent, media guy that covers the Bengals.[/QUOTE] Yeah. My bad. I corrected it in another thread.

03-16-2012, 09:16 PM	#366
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,297	The Jets have $12.7 million in cap space according to PFT

03-16-2012, 09:17 PM	#367
10PennyToColes87 Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: SoFla Posts: 15,374	[QUOTE=Buzzsaw;4400261]The Jets have $12.7 million in cap space according to PFT[/QUOTE] Plenty to sign Nelson (and maybe Landry if Tanny gets creative). C'mon Mike, make it happen.

03-16-2012, 09:28 PM	#368
Buzzsaw Jets Insider VIP Board Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 26,297	Jenny Vrentas is saying that the $12.7 figure doesnt include the contracts for Stanton and Schillens.

03-16-2012, 09:32 PM	#369
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,229	They arent going to spend it all. They will leave $10MM for rookies and contingency funds.

03-16-2012, 09:43 PM	#370
cant wait to silence the non-believers Veteran Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,978	[QUOTE=DDNYjets;4400270]They arent going to spend it all. They will leave $10MM for rookies and contingency funds.[/QUOTE] More like 7M

03-16-2012, 10:14 PM	#371
10PennyToColes87 Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: SoFla Posts: 15,374	[QUOTE=cant wait;4400278]More like 7M[/QUOTE] I'd say 5M, so that means they can spend about 5M on another player, hopefully Nelson.

03-17-2012, 12:59 AM	#372
CanadaSteve Liked the draft picks....meat and potatoes. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 6,512	Right from Jason: Projecting the Year 1 Rookie Salaries With free agency underway and a number of questions as to just how much the Jets really have to spend I wanted to take a quick look at the potential rookie allotments for the team. The new CBA uses a slotted system for their rookie contracts where the expected total value and year one cap number are based on a percentage of a total number. Last year the number was $159 million in year 1 cap charges and $874 million in total contract value for all rookies drafted. The actual spend, based on information I have collected on rookie contracts, looks to have been $158.9 million and $860.2 million respectively. With the numbers only expected to rise by the same percentage increase in the salary cap it looks as if the new limits will only be $159.3 million and $875.6 million this year. That should likely create a big problem for rookies and their agents because the small percentage in the cap does not increase equally with the increase in the minimum salary for an NFL player, which rose by 4%. Last year, for instance, the first rounders accounted for just over 40% of all Year 1 salary cap charges. For that ratio to stay intact the 7th round selections average year one cap charge would have to be under $390,000, the minimum wage in the NFL for 2011. So there is likely going to have to be money given up this season for the top end rookie class compared to last season. In order to try to calculate a fair estimate I took last years minimum salary out of each players salary and determined just how much they were charged in excess of the $375,000 minimum. For instance Cam Newton’s cap charge would be reduced from $4,004,636 to $3,629,636. It represented a salary figure that was about 7 times higher than the final pick in the first round and 316 times higher than the final non-compensatory pick in the NFL draft. Since the minimum wage is constant regardless of draft round I wanted to keep the excess they can earn in line with the figures I had from last season. Based on those numbers it would seem that Andrew Luck’s year one cap charge would reduce to $3.871 million from Newton’s $4.004 million the year before. Obviously there is some wiggle room in that number which occurs during negotiations and most likely the lower drafted guys will feel the brunt before they reduce the number 1 picks salary, but someone is getting hurt this season compared to last year in terms of signing bonus money. Agents are going to be pushing for more guarantees for their low round selections to make up for it. Likely another in a string of losses for the Players Association who really are getting beaten up left and right on this new CBA agreement Here are the estimates for the Jets draft selections: Round 1, pick 16 - $1,550,957 Round 2, pick 15- $767,332 Round 3, pick 14-$538,529 Round 4, pick 13-$498,758 Round 5, pick 19- $435,076 Round 6, pick 18- $414,953 Round 7, pick 17- $403,631 Total: $4,609,237 Compensatory picks are not included in the total numbers and each seems to be treated about the same despite the order of selection. We do expect the Jets to be awarded compensatory selections in the draft and those totals would be added to the actual draft total. The estimated numbers are as follows: Round 3- $511,326 Round 4- $462,069 Round 5- $424,661 Round 6- $408,865 Round 7- $401,005 So the bottom line is the Jets will likely be allocated a minimum of $4.61 million of their salary cap to sign their rookies and that number will grow if they happen to be rewarded compensatory picks or picks via trade. Each player should replace another player making the minimum salary in 2012 so the net effect is only about $1.88 million in additional salary cap charges that has to be allocated for the 7 first round selections in 2012. If anyone would like me to give a guesstimate for any other team please just send me an email with the team and what selections they are expected to have in the draft and I’ll put a post up on it. Im going to try to also follow all the draft selections to better model these estimates for the future, so if anyone has any salary data to pass along please feel free. All information is kept confidential if it comes from an unpublished source.

03-17-2012, 12:52 PM	#373
C Mart Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 21,302	[URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/BrianCoz"][B]Brian Costello[/B] ‏ @[B]BrianCoz[/B][/URL] LaRon Landry's visit with Jets is tomorrow. He's at Patriots today. [URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/JennyVrentas"][B]Jenny Vrentas[/B] ‏ @[B]JennyVrentas[/B][/URL] Likely looking at short-term deals w/Landry. But in thin safety market, with many visits skedded, will $ go up + will Jets want to pay? [URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23nyj"]#[B]nyj[/B][/URL] Landry still intends to make all his visits (Jets and 4 other teams, as of now). Looks like Jets now tmrw, as [URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/BrianCoz"]@[B]BrianCoz[/B][/URL] noted.

03-17-2012, 12:57 PM	#374
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,229	[QUOTE=cant wait;4400278]More like 7M[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=10PennyToColes87;4400296]I'd say 5M, so that means they can spend about 5M on another player, hopefully Nelson.[/QUOTE] It will cost at least $5MM to sign the rookies. Last year they left about an $8MM contingency AFTER signing rookies which was meant to help them be under the cap this year b.c of the carry-over. If Tanny thinks they are going to be in a similar situation next year, he may hold even more money.