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Monsterxman · 03-31-2012, 01:57 AM

[QUOTE=KR;4423417]Tebow stats as starter not including postseason 8-6 so this is less then full season with a handful of snaps in other games.
-3200 combined yards.
- 29 combined TD
- 13 combined TO.
- 7 game winning drives in 14 starts.

He's inconsistent and streaky like sanchez. He actually throws a nice deep ball but is inconsistent in the short game bc of mechanics and footwork. He won't be starting for us but he is not as bad as people think.[/QUOTE]

I agree, non-conventional but he's not nearly as bad as people think here when you take everything into account.

I was looking at stats today and he's better on 1st and 10 than Mark by a considerable margin... Less plays, more yards/play and 6 Tds, 2 int's... Vs 1 td and 6 int's for Sanchez... success on first down is absolutely huge.

It might not always look pretty, but People thinking the Jets are doomed if Tebow ends up the starter are wrong.

Mark will score more, Tebow will control the clock and have less turnovers...

sg3 · 03-31-2012, 06:43 AM

pretty sure the consensus the OP appears to asking for is that we sure as heck needed another thread about this for HER to hijack

jetsmetsrangers · 03-31-2012, 09:09 AM

[QUOTE=Monsterxman;4423432]I agree, non-conventional but he's not nearly as bad as people think here when you take everything into account.

I was looking at stats today and he's better on 1st and 10 than Mark by a considerable margin... Less plays, more yards/play and 6 Tds, 2 int's... Vs 1 td and 6 int's for Sanchez... success on first down is absolutely huge.

It might not always look pretty, but People thinking the Jets are doomed if Tebow ends up the starter are wrong.

Mark will score more, Tebow will control the clock and have less turnovers...[/QUOTE]

Many of the complaints about Sanchez.....Comp%....Comeback wins are because he plays badly for 3 quarters...Can't read defenses....YPA....Seems some people will give Tebow a pass but kill Sanchez for....

Even the Turnovers, he does not throw alot of INT but he does not throw many passes and he fumbled 13 times in 11 games, i realize this is because he rushes alot but it is still 13 fumbles....
Threw 1 less INT per 100 passes than Sanchez last season....

I do not think the Jets will be doomed as i think Tebow has shown he is a winning player but it is funny to me how the "new" guy who has worse accuracy and plays worse for a majority of his games and fumbles more than Sanchez is thought to be an upgrade.....

Another big knock on Sanchez was he stunk the last 3 games with the playoffs on the line (which he did) however Tebow and Denver were 8-5 also....Lost the last 3 games with the playoffs on the line....How did Tebow hold up?....

30-73...40%....1 TD.....4 INT....5 fumbles(3)lost and 13 PPG....

long island leprechaun · 03-31-2012, 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=sg3;4423447]pretty sure the consensus the OP appears to asking for is that we sure as heck needed another thread about this for HER to hijack[/QUOTE]

Huh? Your tapatalk is broken, I think... I don't even understand what you're trying to say...

Ohio State NY Jets fan · 03-31-2012, 10:52 AM

[QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4423187]Okay, don't jump off any bridges, Sanchez gang. Just curious what the consensus is:

Let's say Mark Sanchez gets injured in game eight and Tebow takes over. How much better, worse, or similarly do you think the Jets will do for the rest of the season?

In other words, how much more or less overall does Tebow bring to the table compared to Sanchez?[/QUOTE] Sanchez and Tebow are basically the same QB - different styles with the same result, low to medium performance most of the time with a few great plays mixed in

this can help the team if both stay healthy or one becomes consistently good

Joe Willie White Shoes · 03-31-2012, 11:02 AM

This thread shows how insufferable this season is going to be on this board.

Vinny Testaverde's Niece · 03-31-2012, 11:15 AM

[QUOTE=KR;4423418]The talent that took us to two afc championship games....the top defense and rushing team in 09, and top 5-10 in 2010. The talent that had many state we were a sb contender in 10 and 11.

In Denver they were the second worst team in the league before last year, and had a record of 4-14 w/o Tebow in the last two years.....[/QUOTE]

The 2009 Jets were a talent laden team, no doubt. If Schottenheimer didn't scare Favre away Rex may have won that Superbowl. Not really sure of the logic of comparing Tebow's 2011 team to the Jets 2009 2010 teams. While the 09 team was dismantled, the Broncos had Miller and Dumervil, and better WR's, among other positions.

RI Jets · 03-31-2012, 11:22 AM

The Sanchez people make it sound like he's Drew Brees or something. Sanchez is a better passer (he's bad Tebow's awful). Tebow is a better runner and leader. The Defense and 4 games against Dolphins/Bills put us at 8 wins but whether we have Sanchez/Tebow/McElroy at QB doesn't really matter. After another season with below 60% completion can we all agree to stop calling Sanchez a "young developing QB" it will 4 yrs by then.

sg3 · 03-31-2012, 12:26 PM

root for your local team

Dreaming Daddy · 03-31-2012, 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=KRL;4423210]I'm getting used to him being a "weapon" on our team in different packages.
But he IS NOT an NFL QB, if he played a full season we would be lucky to
win 6 games[/QUOTE]

Huh...win 6-games? He started 11 games last year and went 7-4 and including playoffs 8-5.

03-31-2012, 09:09 AM	#23
jetsmetsrangers Veteran Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 2,455	[QUOTE=Monsterxman;4423432]I agree, non-conventional but he's not nearly as bad as people think here when you take everything into account. I was looking at stats today and he's better on 1st and 10 than Mark by a considerable margin... Less plays, more yards/play and 6 Tds, 2 int's... Vs 1 td and 6 int's for Sanchez... success on first down is absolutely huge. It might not always look pretty, but People thinking the Jets are doomed if Tebow ends up the starter are wrong. Mark will score more, Tebow will control the clock and have less turnovers...[/QUOTE] Many of the complaints about Sanchez.....Comp%....Comeback wins are because he plays badly for 3 quarters...Can't read defenses....YPA....Seems some people will give Tebow a pass but kill Sanchez for.... Even the Turnovers, he does not throw alot of INT but he does not throw many passes and he fumbled 13 times in 11 games, i realize this is because he rushes alot but it is still 13 fumbles.... Threw 1 less INT per 100 passes than Sanchez last season.... I do not think the Jets will be doomed as i think Tebow has shown he is a winning player but it is funny to me how the "new" guy who has worse accuracy and plays worse for a majority of his games and fumbles more than Sanchez is thought to be an upgrade..... Another big knock on Sanchez was he stunk the last 3 games with the playoffs on the line (which he did) however Tebow and Denver were 8-5 also....Lost the last 3 games with the playoffs on the line....How did Tebow hold up?.... 30-73...40%....1 TD.....4 INT....5 fumbles(3)lost and 13 PPG.... Last edited by jetsmetsrangers; 03-31-2012 at 01:02 PM.

03-31-2012, 01:57 AM	#21
Monsterxman supercalifragilisticexpialidocious All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,075	[QUOTE=KR;4423417]Tebow stats as starter not including postseason 8-6 so this is less then full season with a handful of snaps in other games. -3200 combined yards. - 29 combined TD - 13 combined TO. - 7 game winning drives in 14 starts. He's inconsistent and streaky like sanchez. He actually throws a nice deep ball but is inconsistent in the short game bc of mechanics and footwork. He won't be starting for us but he is not as bad as people think.[/QUOTE] I agree, non-conventional but he's not nearly as bad as people think here when you take everything into account. I was looking at stats today and he's better on 1st and 10 than Mark by a considerable margin... Less plays, more yards/play and 6 Tds, 2 int's... Vs 1 td and 6 int's for Sanchez... success on first down is absolutely huge. It might not always look pretty, but People thinking the Jets are doomed if Tebow ends up the starter are wrong. Mark will score more, Tebow will control the clock and have less turnovers...

03-31-2012, 06:43 AM	#22
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,907	pretty sure the consensus the OP appears to asking for is that we sure as heck needed another thread about this for HER to hijack

03-31-2012, 10:34 AM	#24
long island leprechaun Don't mess with Angel Eyes. All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: greenwich village, NYC Posts: 7,486	[QUOTE=sg3;4423447]pretty sure the consensus the OP appears to asking for is that we sure as heck needed another thread about this for HER to hijack[/QUOTE] Huh? Your tapatalk is broken, I think... I don't even understand what you're trying to say...

03-31-2012, 10:52 AM	#25
Ohio State NY Jets fan Veteran Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,994	[QUOTE=long island leprechaun;4423187]Okay, don't jump off any bridges, Sanchez gang. Just curious what the consensus is: Let's say Mark Sanchez gets injured in game eight and Tebow takes over. How much better, worse, or similarly do you think the Jets will do for the rest of the season? In other words, how much more or less overall does Tebow bring to the table compared to Sanchez?[/QUOTE] Sanchez and Tebow are basically the same QB - different styles with the same result, low to medium performance most of the time with a few great plays mixed in this can help the team if both stay healthy or one becomes consistently good

03-31-2012, 11:02 AM	#26
Joe Willie White Shoes Veteran Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 188	This thread shows how insufferable this season is going to be on this board.

03-31-2012, 11:15 AM	#27
Vinny Testaverde's Niece Post Count Not Affected By Demise of Hotties Forum All League Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: NYC Posts: 4,293	[QUOTE=KR;4423418]The talent that took us to two afc championship games....the top defense and rushing team in 09, and top 5-10 in 2010. The talent that had many state we were a sb contender in 10 and 11. In Denver they were the second worst team in the league before last year, and had a record of 4-14 w/o Tebow in the last two years.....[/QUOTE] The 2009 Jets were a talent laden team, no doubt. If Schottenheimer didn't scare Favre away Rex may have won that Superbowl. Not really sure of the logic of comparing Tebow's 2011 team to the Jets 2009 2010 teams. While the 09 team was dismantled, the Broncos had Miller and Dumervil, and better WR's, among other positions.

03-31-2012, 11:22 AM	#28
RI Jets Practice Squad Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 32	The Sanchez people make it sound like he's Drew Brees or something. Sanchez is a better passer (he's bad Tebow's awful). Tebow is a better runner and leader. The Defense and 4 games against Dolphins/Bills put us at 8 wins but whether we have Sanchez/Tebow/McElroy at QB doesn't really matter. After another season with below 60% completion can we all agree to stop calling Sanchez a "young developing QB" it will 4 yrs by then.

03-31-2012, 12:26 PM	#29
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,907	root for your local team

03-31-2012, 12:30 PM	#30
Dreaming Daddy Praying for the Jets! Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 233	[QUOTE=KRL;4423210]I'm getting used to him being a "weapon" on our team in different packages. But he IS NOT an NFL QB, if he played a full season we would be lucky to win 6 games[/QUOTE] Huh...win 6-games? He started 11 games last year and went 7-4 and including playoffs 8-5.