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SBIII · 04-27-2012, 12:25 AM

So, with Coples here, is it going to be:

Wlkerson Sione Quinton

on the line, just like that? or do you think he can be OLB'er?

I wanted Ingram, but I think Quinton is going to be very very good.

SlickBri481 · 04-27-2012, 12:27 AM

As hard as it is for me to believe, I don't think guy is going to play OLB for us. He's going to be on the line with Pouha and Wilkerson. That makes the pick a bit surprising. But he's a freak athletically

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 04-27-2012, 12:28 AM

DeVito finishes out the year...and his contract.

By the way, while I don't like the pick, we have one of the deepest lines in football...

Woody56 · 04-27-2012, 12:28 AM

Why would Devito be gone. He is still one of the top run stuffers in the NFL, who will probably be in on a lot of running downs over Coples.

Pavilion · 04-27-2012, 12:29 AM

I dont think so

Devito is a great run stuffer but leaves much to be desired in pass rush, which is where is see Coples really getting time early--- replacing Devito on passing situations.

Coples is going to be used in so many different positions but i think Devito is safe.

WestCoastOffensive · 04-27-2012, 01:47 AM

Fullback. Problem solved.

jetsonly · 04-27-2012, 02:14 AM

[QUOTE=WestCoastOffensive;4449086]Fullback. Problem solved.[/QUOTE]

Nice :D

WestCoastOffensive · 04-27-2012, 02:17 AM

[QUOTE=jetsonly;4449099]Nice :D[/QUOTE]

:D

Get on the Bus.(R)

patman · 04-27-2012, 06:32 AM

[QUOTE=Pavilion;4448999]I dont think so

Devito is a great run stuffer but leaves much to be desired in pass rush, which is where is see Coples really getting time early--- replacing Devito on passing situations.

Coples is going to be used in so many different positions but i think Devito is safe.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, No way Devito is moved.

Rangenius · 04-27-2012, 06:39 AM

Is Kenrick Ellis not progressing? I say him and his 350lb frame will anchor the middle. Wilkerson, Pouha, Ellis, Coples, Devito rotation

BIGKIDD325 · 04-27-2012, 06:40 AM

How many defensive lineman do the Giants have? You're allowed to have more than 3-4...

Scoop24 · 04-27-2012, 06:45 AM

i think eventually it plays out like this

Starters :Wilkerson, Ellis*,Coples

Backups: Pouha and Devito

*(depending on how much he has developed this offseason)

that a strong dine with good Depth and a good mixture youth and Veteran leadership..

sameoldjets · 04-27-2012, 06:49 AM

it all starts up front. the jet dline should be pretty darn good especially if ellis can start staying on the field. devito gets banged up a lot so he may be used for depth or in run downs. imo one of the real keys is if the jets can counter a hurry up offense. most times the dline is sucking wind after having to stay out for 4 or 5 plays in a row without the normal 45 seconds between plays.

now the real question is if the jets continue to use the 2nd pick for defense (lb) or do they go back to offense (oline/te/wr). what if ingram is still there at 48?

patman · 04-27-2012, 06:56 AM

[QUOTE=Scoop24;4449161]i think eventually it plays out like this

Starters :Wilkerson, Ellis*,Coples

Backups: Pouha and Devito

*(depending on how much he has developed this offseason)

that a strong dine with good Depth and a good mixture youth and Veteran leadership..[/QUOTE]

What did Ellis do last year for you to think that he is going to supplant one of the better nose tackles in the league? How do players develop over the off season? It is not like he had to get stronger.

Ven0m · 04-27-2012, 07:04 AM

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Devito is traded over this weekend.

- He's presumably been supplanted as a starter with the Coples selection
- We already had decent depth at the position with Dixon and Pitoitua.
- Devito is in a contract year and probably wouldn't have been re-signed anyways, now almost definitely wouldn't be.
- Getting rid of him would clear about 3 million in cap space.
- Oh, and we could use an extra draft pick.

I'm sure we wouldn't get a 2nd for Devito, but you should get something useful for a legitimate NFL starter.

Scoop24 · 04-27-2012, 07:10 AM

[QUOTE=Ven0m;4449179]I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Devito is traded over this weekend.

- He's presumably been supplanted as a starter with the Coples selection
- We already had decent depth at the position with Dixon and Pitoitua.
- Devito is in a contract year and probably wouldn't have been re-signed anyways, now almost definitely wouldn't be.
- Getting rid of him would clear about 3 million in cap space.
- Oh, and we could use an extra draft pick.

I'm sure we wouldn't get a 2nd for Devito, but you should get something useful for a legitimate NFL starter.[/QUOTE]

i forgot all about Dixon who also play well last year. Pitoitua with a real training this offseason and not Rehab should also be a much better player this year.

Devito could damn well be in trouble..

nycuse · 04-27-2012, 07:28 AM

[QUOTE=Ven0m;4449179]I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Devito is traded over this weekend.

- He's presumably been supplanted as a starter with the Coples selection
- We already had decent depth at the position with Dixon and Pitoitua.
- Devito is in a contract year and probably wouldn't have been re-signed anyways, now almost definitely wouldn't be.
- Getting rid of him would clear about 3 million in cap space.
- Oh, and we could use an extra draft pick.

I'm sure we wouldn't get a 2nd for Devito, but you should get something useful for a legitimate NFL starter.[/QUOTE]

Somebody has to be. You really find starters in the next three rounds. We only have two picks in the next three rounds and still need a rt, safety, old and wr.

Ven0m · 04-27-2012, 07:37 AM

[QUOTE=nycuse;4449194]Somebody has to be. You really find starters in the next three rounds. We only have two picks in the next three rounds and still need a rt, safety, old and wr.[/QUOTE]

In many ways I wonder if part of the plan is to clear that cap space for Braylon/Atogwe

I still think the draft approach will be BAP though. That's Tannenbaum's MO and it very much fits the Coples pick.

CanadaSteve · 04-27-2012, 07:59 AM

[QUOTE=Woody56;4448996]Why would Devito be gone. He is still one of the top run stuffers in the NFL, who will probably be in on a lot of running downs over Coples.[/QUOTE]

TRADE BAIT!

CanadaSteve · 04-27-2012, 08:04 AM

[QUOTE=Ven0m;4449179]I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Devito is traded over this weekend.

- He's presumably been supplanted as a starter with the Coples selection
- We already had decent depth at the position with Dixon and Pitoitua.
- Devito is in a contract year and probably wouldn't have been re-signed anyways, now almost definitely wouldn't be.
- Getting rid of him would clear about 3 million in cap space.
- Oh, and we could use an extra draft pick.

I'm sure we wouldn't get a 2nd for Devito, but you should get something useful for a legitimate NFL starter.[/QUOTE]

You might get a 5th for him, when, packaged with a 6th, will get us back into the 4th round :cool:

04-27-2012, 12:25 AM	#1
SBIII JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: in the 90's Posts: 28,006	Devito a goner? So, with Coples here, is it going to be: Wlkerson Sione Quinton on the line, just like that? or do you think he can be OLB'er? I wanted Ingram, but I think Quinton is going to be very very good.

04-27-2012, 06:39 AM	#10
Rangenius I suck. Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tampa, FL by way of Long Island, NY Posts: 102	Is Kenrick Ellis not progressing? I say him and his 350lb frame will anchor the middle. Wilkerson, Pouha, Ellis, Coples, Devito rotation Last edited by Rangenius; 04-27-2012 at 06:40 AM. Reason: grammar

04-27-2012, 12:27 AM	#2
SlickBri481 Heal up Darrelle... All Pro Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 6,351	As hard as it is for me to believe, I don't think guy is going to play OLB for us. He's going to be on the line with Pouha and Wilkerson. That makes the pick a bit surprising. But he's a freak athletically

04-27-2012, 12:28 AM	#3
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,447	DeVito finishes out the year...and his contract. By the way, while I don't like the pick, we have one of the deepest lines in football...

04-27-2012, 12:28 AM	#4
Woody56 Purifying myself in the waters of Lake Minnetonka All League Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,067	Why would Devito be gone. He is still one of the top run stuffers in the NFL, who will probably be in on a lot of running downs over Coples.

04-27-2012, 12:29 AM	#5
Pavilion All Pro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: north jersey Posts: 1,220	I dont think so Devito is a great run stuffer but leaves much to be desired in pass rush, which is where is see Coples really getting time early--- replacing Devito on passing situations. Coples is going to be used in so many different positions but i think Devito is safe.

04-27-2012, 01:47 AM	#6
WestCoastOffensive Lying to the Smithsonian Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SF via Strong Island Posts: 26,639	Fullback. Problem solved.

04-27-2012, 02:14 AM	#7
jetsonly Rookie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa Posts: 676	[QUOTE=WestCoastOffensive;4449086]Fullback. Problem solved.[/QUOTE] Nice :D

04-27-2012, 02:17 AM	#8
WestCoastOffensive Lying to the Smithsonian Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SF via Strong Island Posts: 26,639	[QUOTE=jetsonly;4449099]Nice :D[/QUOTE] :D Get on the Bus.(R)

04-27-2012, 06:32 AM	#9
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,154	[QUOTE=Pavilion;4448999]I dont think so Devito is a great run stuffer but leaves much to be desired in pass rush, which is where is see Coples really getting time early--- replacing Devito on passing situations. Coples is going to be used in so many different positions but i think Devito is safe.[/QUOTE] Agreed, No way Devito is moved.

04-27-2012, 06:40 AM	#11
BIGKIDD325 #helloplayoffs All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,617	How many defensive lineman do the Giants have? You're allowed to have more than 3-4...

04-27-2012, 06:45 AM	#12
Scoop24 Up in the clouds somewhere All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: brooklyn,NY Posts: 4,666	i think eventually it plays out like this Starters :Wilkerson, Ellis,Coples Backups: Pouha and Devito (depending on how much he has developed this offseason) that a strong dine with good Depth and a good mixture youth and Veteran leadership..

04-27-2012, 06:49 AM	#13
sameoldjets All Pro Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,477	it all starts up front. the jet dline should be pretty darn good especially if ellis can start staying on the field. devito gets banged up a lot so he may be used for depth or in run downs. imo one of the real keys is if the jets can counter a hurry up offense. most times the dline is sucking wind after having to stay out for 4 or 5 plays in a row without the normal 45 seconds between plays. now the real question is if the jets continue to use the 2nd pick for defense (lb) or do they go back to offense (oline/te/wr). what if ingram is still there at 48?

04-27-2012, 06:56 AM	#14
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,154	[QUOTE=Scoop24;4449161]i think eventually it plays out like this Starters :Wilkerson, Ellis,Coples Backups: Pouha and Devito (depending on how much he has developed this offseason) that a strong dine with good Depth and a good mixture youth and Veteran leadership..[/QUOTE] What did Ellis do last year for you to think that he is going to supplant one of the better nose tackles in the league? How do players develop over the off season? It is not like he had to get stronger.

04-27-2012, 07:04 AM	#15
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Devito is traded over this weekend. - He's presumably been supplanted as a starter with the Coples selection - We already had decent depth at the position with Dixon and Pitoitua. - Devito is in a contract year and probably wouldn't have been re-signed anyways, now almost definitely wouldn't be. - Getting rid of him would clear about 3 million in cap space. - Oh, and we could use an extra draft pick. I'm sure we wouldn't get a 2nd for Devito, but you should get something useful for a legitimate NFL starter.

04-27-2012, 07:10 AM	#16
Scoop24 Up in the clouds somewhere All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: brooklyn,NY Posts: 4,666	[QUOTE=Ven0m;4449179]I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Devito is traded over this weekend. - He's presumably been supplanted as a starter with the Coples selection - We already had decent depth at the position with Dixon and Pitoitua. - Devito is in a contract year and probably wouldn't have been re-signed anyways, now almost definitely wouldn't be. - Getting rid of him would clear about 3 million in cap space. - Oh, and we could use an extra draft pick. I'm sure we wouldn't get a 2nd for Devito, but you should get something useful for a legitimate NFL starter.[/QUOTE] i forgot all about Dixon who also play well last year. Pitoitua with a real training this offseason and not Rehab should also be a much better player this year. Devito could damn well be in trouble..

04-27-2012, 07:28 AM	#17
nycuse Veteran Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,291	[QUOTE=Ven0m;4449179]I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Devito is traded over this weekend. - He's presumably been supplanted as a starter with the Coples selection - We already had decent depth at the position with Dixon and Pitoitua. - Devito is in a contract year and probably wouldn't have been re-signed anyways, now almost definitely wouldn't be. - Getting rid of him would clear about 3 million in cap space. - Oh, and we could use an extra draft pick. I'm sure we wouldn't get a 2nd for Devito, but you should get something useful for a legitimate NFL starter.[/QUOTE] Somebody has to be. You really find starters in the next three rounds. We only have two picks in the next three rounds and still need a rt, safety, old and wr.

04-27-2012, 07:37 AM	#18
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	[QUOTE=nycuse;4449194]Somebody has to be. You really find starters in the next three rounds. We only have two picks in the next three rounds and still need a rt, safety, old and wr.[/QUOTE] In many ways I wonder if part of the plan is to clear that cap space for Braylon/Atogwe I still think the draft approach will be BAP though. That's Tannenbaum's MO and it very much fits the Coples pick.

04-27-2012, 07:59 AM	#19
CanadaSteve Liked the draft picks....meat and potatoes. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 6,512	[QUOTE=Woody56;4448996]Why would Devito be gone. He is still one of the top run stuffers in the NFL, who will probably be in on a lot of running downs over Coples.[/QUOTE] TRADE BAIT!

04-27-2012, 08:04 AM	#20
CanadaSteve Liked the draft picks....meat and potatoes. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 6,512	[QUOTE=Ven0m;4449179]I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Devito is traded over this weekend. - He's presumably been supplanted as a starter with the Coples selection - We already had decent depth at the position with Dixon and Pitoitua. - Devito is in a contract year and probably wouldn't have been re-signed anyways, now almost definitely wouldn't be. - Getting rid of him would clear about 3 million in cap space. - Oh, and we could use an extra draft pick. I'm sure we wouldn't get a 2nd for Devito, but you should get something useful for a legitimate NFL starter.[/QUOTE] You might get a 5th for him, when, packaged with a 6th, will get us back into the 4th round :cool: