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isired · 05-07-2012, 06:09 PM

Either the score matters, in which case it's a forfeit and you play for fun after, or the score doesn't master, in which case you take the forfeit and play for fun. See how easy that is?

At that age, they probably have playoffs and name a league champion. But I don't really think that matters - coaches should have called up players to complete his team, or the game ends 'officially' in forfeit, and if they want to play 'for fun' they can borrow players. You can't make kids play for the other team in a game that counts in the standings. The way that I look at it, what you teach then about being a member of a team far outweighs anything you teach them about baseball. Not many of these kids will have baseball games in their adult life, let alone get paid to play, but they will all have to be part of a team in one way or another.

And, if they're borrowing players, they should take the opportunity to get fine kids playing time in the infield that don't normally, get a new kid in to pitch that they've been working with, etc.

Either way, there's no excuse for Erik's actions.

NYJCAP2 · 05-07-2012, 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462061]I dont think anyone of you would feel the way you do if it was your kid who was being used as the platoon player in RF. I would have suggested a kid in the crowd who played for another team instead of a member of the team playing.

Come on guys criticize me if you will. [B]You know im Erik's dad and just dont want to agree with me, bottom line[/B].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=brady's a catcher;4462067]This.[/QUOTE]

:yes:

Timmy® · 05-07-2012, 07:39 PM

[QUOTE=jetswin;4461476][IMG]http://www.tvsinopse.kinghost.net/l/leave-it-to-beaver3_arquivos/tvsinopse11006.jpg[/IMG]

apparently every town has a Lumpy Rutherford...the good news is he won't get a date to the sock hop[/QUOTE]

WTF dude? That's Larry Mondello.

Timmy® · 05-07-2012, 07:40 PM

[QUOTE=JStokes;4461779]

I write checks every day with my mouth and I have no problem cashing them

_[/QUOTE]

new sig

Bonhomme Richard · 05-07-2012, 07:49 PM

[QUOTE=Timmy®;4462205]new sig[/QUOTE]

Lol

thebigragu · 05-07-2012, 08:22 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462008]So Erik is too blame for the opposing team not having enough players? Was it Erik who decided to play the game? The umpires should have deemed the game a forfeit from the start and told both managers and both teams the game was a scrimmage. [B]How do you think Erik felt being put on the opposing team in RF? [/B] Sometimes managers,caoches and parents all need to think about the entire situation and the reason they are there.[/QUOTE]

Like a male rapist sent to prison.

freestater · 05-08-2012, 09:53 AM

A nine-year-old who knows who Bill Buckner is?

the whole thing is BS.

jetswin · 05-08-2012, 09:58 AM

[QUOTE=freestater;4462513]A nine-year-old who knows who Bill Buckner is?

the whole thing is BS.[/QUOTE]

maybe he watches Curb Your Enthusiasm

[IMG]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2011/09/curb.your.enthusiasm.110905.jpg[/IMG]

GMCJETS · 05-08-2012, 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=freestater;4462513]A nine-year-old who knows who Bill Buckner is?

the whole thing is BS.[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing initially.

Maybe this happened at a mens softball game and the poster was Erik. :eek:

BushyTheBeaver · 05-08-2012, 11:34 AM

[QUOTE=freestater;4462513]A nine-year-old who knows who Bill Buckner is?

the whole thing is BS.[/QUOTE]

Actually he'd been burbling about Bill Buckner during warmups. Apparently he'd seen a video that week. Regardless, plenty if not most 9 year old Red Sox fans know who Bill Buckner is--his error in game 6 was the most infamous moment in team history. Would you think it odd for a nine year old Jets fan to know who Joe Namath is? Or Mark Gastineau? Or Don Maynard? Hell, when I was 9 I knew Jim Thorpe, Bronko Nagurski, Red Grange, George Gipp, Don Hudson, Beatie Feathers, Walter Camp, even one play wonders like Wrong Way Riegels.

crasherino · 05-08-2012, 12:12 PM

[QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4462583]Actually he'd been burbling about Bill Buckner during warmups. Apparently he'd seen a video that week. Regardless, plenty if not most 9 year old Red Sox fans know who Bill Buckner is--his error in game 6 was the most infamous moment in team history. Would you think it odd for a nine year old Jets fan to know who Joe Namath is? Or Mark Gastineau? Or Don Maynard? Hell, when I was 9 I knew Jim Thorpe, Bronko Nagurski, Red Grange, George Gipp, Don Hudson, Beatie Feathers, Walter Camp, even one play wonders like Wrong Way Riegels.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes we forget that you're a Ma$$hole.

Foley11 · 05-08-2012, 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462008]So Erik is too blame for the opposing team not having enough players? Was it Erik who decided to play the game? The umpires should have deemed the game a forfeit from the start and told both managers and both teams the game was a scrimmage. How do you think Erik felt being put on the opposing team in RF? Sometimes managers,caoches and parents all need to think about the entire situation and the reason they are there.[/QUOTE]

None of this changes the fact that 'Erik' is a little dooshbag. He is likely being raised by a family of dooshbags. He takes away from the enjoyment of those around him with very little understanding of what he does.

One day he may go on to post on a football message board in much the same fashion.

GMCJETS · 05-08-2012, 12:36 PM

[QUOTE=Foley11;4462642]One day he may go on to post on a football message board in much the same fashion.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like you know Erik or you were once him.

Hard to imagine grown men criticizing LL age kids here, but not at all surprised.

brady's a catcher · 05-08-2012, 12:59 PM

[QUOTE=Foley11;4462642]None of this changes the fact that 'Erik' is a little dooshbag. He is likely being raised by a family of dooshbags. He takes away from the enjoyment of those around him with very little understanding of what he does.

One day he may go on to post on a football message board in much the same fashion.[/QUOTE]

Someone really has his finger on the pulse of this board!

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462653]Sounds like you know Erik or you were once him.

Hard to imagine grown men criticizing LL age kids here, but not at all surprised.[/QUOTE]

What's, kids can't be d-bag a-holes? So grown up d-bag a-holes were all sweet innocent chidren and then one day, magically, instant d-bag a-holes? Strange.

GMCJETS · 05-08-2012, 01:08 PM

[QUOTE=brady's a catcher;4462703]What's, kids can't be d-bag a-holes? So grown up d-bag a-holes were all sweet innocent chidren and then one day, magically, instant d-bag a-holes? Strange.[/QUOTE]

No reason to bash kids on a football message board is all im saying. Hard to imagine a meaningless LL baseball game warranting a post and all that anger.

brady's a catcher · 05-08-2012, 01:51 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462716]No reason to bash kids on a football message board is all im saying. Hard to imagine a meaningless LL baseball game warranting a post and all that anger.[/QUOTE]

No last name, no pic, no address, I think the little finger-sniffer's anonymity is pretty safe. Bushy had a rough weekend, terrorized by his a-hole cat, peen about to fall off, you can understand where Erik would push him over the edge.

BushyTheBeaver · 05-08-2012, 02:32 PM

Hmmm...just saw the latest standings. The league apparently ruled the game a tie. Not sure where they got that from. But maybe it's for the best. Possibly it was something the opposing coaches worked out as a compromise. They recorded the final score as 13-13.

GMCJETS · 05-08-2012, 02:43 PM

[QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4462843]Hmmm...just saw the latest standings. The league apparently ruled the game a tie. Not sure where they got that from. But maybe it's for the best. Possibly it was something the opposing coaches worked out as a compromise. They recorded the final score as 13-13.[/QUOTE]

The team that couldnt field 9 players needs to get a forfeit L.

LL is supposed to be the feeder program for the high school program. Part of the game is showing up for each and every practice and game. When you sign up part of the responsibility is both on the parent/child to be there. No excuses.

SCITSCAT · 05-08-2012, 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=SAR I;4460928]I'm sorry, but what did Erik do wrong exactly?

SAR I[/QUOTE]

:P

Sorry guys, been coaching Baseball, Basketball, & Soccer for 20 years, and according to the rules in our leagues, if you don't have enough players, you forfeit. So, if they left before the game was over, they lost....
We would have played the game through, to give the kids the opportunity to play, but it would have gone in the standings as a forfeit.

brady's a catcher · 05-08-2012, 02:45 PM

[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462865]The team that couldnt field 9 players needs to get a forfeit L.

LL is supposed to be the feeder program for the high school program. Part of the game is showing up for each and every practice and game. When you sign up part of the responsibility is both on the parent/child to be there. No excuses.[/QUOTE]

Why are you getting so fired up over a meaningless LL game?

05-07-2012, 06:09 PM	#81
isired Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: nyc Posts: 11,156	Either the score matters, in which case it's a forfeit and you play for fun after, or the score doesn't master, in which case you take the forfeit and play for fun. See how easy that is? At that age, they probably have playoffs and name a league champion. But I don't really think that matters - coaches should have called up players to complete his team, or the game ends 'officially' in forfeit, and if they want to play 'for fun' they can borrow players. You can't make kids play for the other team in a game that counts in the standings. The way that I look at it, what you teach then about being a member of a team far outweighs anything you teach them about baseball. Not many of these kids will have baseball games in their adult life, let alone get paid to play, but they will all have to be part of a team in one way or another. And, if they're borrowing players, they should take the opportunity to get fine kids playing time in the infield that don't normally, get a new kid in to pitch that they've been working with, etc. Either way, there's no excuse for Erik's actions. Last edited by isired; 05-07-2012 at 06:18 PM.

05-08-2012, 02:32 PM	#97
BushyTheBeaver size matters All League Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,924	Hmmm...just saw the latest standings. The league apparently ruled the game a tie. Not sure where they got that from. But maybe it's for the best. Possibly it was something the opposing coaches worked out as a compromise. They recorded the final score as 13-13. Last edited by BushyTheBeaver; 05-08-2012 at 02:34 PM.

05-07-2012, 06:46 PM	#82
NYJCAP2 All League Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 3,817	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462061]I dont think anyone of you would feel the way you do if it was your kid who was being used as the platoon player in RF. I would have suggested a kid in the crowd who played for another team instead of a member of the team playing. Come on guys criticize me if you will. [B]You know im Erik's dad and just dont want to agree with me, bottom line[/B].[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=brady's a catcher;4462067]This.[/QUOTE] :yes:

05-07-2012, 07:39 PM	#83
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,493	[QUOTE=jetswin;4461476][IMG]http://www.tvsinopse.kinghost.net/l/leave-it-to-beaver3_arquivos/tvsinopse11006.jpg[/IMG] apparently every town has a Lumpy Rutherford...the good news is he won't get a date to the sock hop[/QUOTE] WTF dude? That's Larry Mondello.

05-07-2012, 07:40 PM	#84
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,493	[QUOTE=JStokes;4461779] I write checks every day with my mouth and I have no problem cashing them _[/QUOTE] new sig

05-07-2012, 07:49 PM	#85
Bonhomme Richard Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 4,100	[QUOTE=Timmy®;4462205]new sig[/QUOTE] Lol

05-07-2012, 08:22 PM	#86
thebigragu Downright Brilliant All Pro Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Staten Island Posts: 7,828	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462008]So Erik is too blame for the opposing team not having enough players? Was it Erik who decided to play the game? The umpires should have deemed the game a forfeit from the start and told both managers and both teams the game was a scrimmage. [B]How do you think Erik felt being put on the opposing team in RF? [/B] Sometimes managers,caoches and parents all need to think about the entire situation and the reason they are there.[/QUOTE] Like a male rapist sent to prison.

05-08-2012, 09:53 AM	#87
freestater we gonna lay around the shanty, Mama, and put a good buzz on Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 13,507	A nine-year-old who knows who Bill Buckner is? the whole thing is BS.

05-08-2012, 09:58 AM	#88
jetswin stumblin mumblin butt fumblin Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Westchester Co. Posts: 35,464	[QUOTE=freestater;4462513]A nine-year-old who knows who Bill Buckner is? the whole thing is BS.[/QUOTE] maybe he watches Curb Your Enthusiasm [IMG]http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2011/09/curb.your.enthusiasm.110905.jpg[/IMG]

05-08-2012, 11:22 AM	#89
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=freestater;4462513]A nine-year-old who knows who Bill Buckner is? the whole thing is BS.[/QUOTE] I was thinking the same thing initially. Maybe this happened at a mens softball game and the poster was Erik. :eek:

05-08-2012, 11:34 AM	#90
BushyTheBeaver size matters All League Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,924	[QUOTE=freestater;4462513]A nine-year-old who knows who Bill Buckner is? the whole thing is BS.[/QUOTE] Actually he'd been burbling about Bill Buckner during warmups. Apparently he'd seen a video that week. Regardless, plenty if not most 9 year old Red Sox fans know who Bill Buckner is--his error in game 6 was the most infamous moment in team history. Would you think it odd for a nine year old Jets fan to know who Joe Namath is? Or Mark Gastineau? Or Don Maynard? Hell, when I was 9 I knew Jim Thorpe, Bronko Nagurski, Red Grange, George Gipp, Don Hudson, Beatie Feathers, Walter Camp, even one play wonders like Wrong Way Riegels.

05-08-2012, 12:12 PM	#91
crasherino Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 16,826	[QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4462583]Actually he'd been burbling about Bill Buckner during warmups. Apparently he'd seen a video that week. Regardless, plenty if not most 9 year old Red Sox fans know who Bill Buckner is--his error in game 6 was the most infamous moment in team history. Would you think it odd for a nine year old Jets fan to know who Joe Namath is? Or Mark Gastineau? Or Don Maynard? Hell, when I was 9 I knew Jim Thorpe, Bronko Nagurski, Red Grange, George Gipp, Don Hudson, Beatie Feathers, Walter Camp, even one play wonders like Wrong Way Riegels.[/QUOTE] Sometimes we forget that you're a Ma$$hole.

05-08-2012, 12:28 PM	#92
Foley11 "I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry." Practice Squad Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 382	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462008]So Erik is too blame for the opposing team not having enough players? Was it Erik who decided to play the game? The umpires should have deemed the game a forfeit from the start and told both managers and both teams the game was a scrimmage. How do you think Erik felt being put on the opposing team in RF? Sometimes managers,caoches and parents all need to think about the entire situation and the reason they are there.[/QUOTE] None of this changes the fact that 'Erik' is a little dooshbag. He is likely being raised by a family of dooshbags. He takes away from the enjoyment of those around him with very little understanding of what he does. One day he may go on to post on a football message board in much the same fashion.

05-08-2012, 12:36 PM	#93
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=Foley11;4462642]One day he may go on to post on a football message board in much the same fashion.[/QUOTE] Sounds like you know Erik or you were once him. Hard to imagine grown men criticizing LL age kids here, but not at all surprised.

05-08-2012, 12:59 PM	#94
brady's a catcher R.I.P Goofy Maloof All Pro Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 6,692	[QUOTE=Foley11;4462642]None of this changes the fact that 'Erik' is a little dooshbag. He is likely being raised by a family of dooshbags. He takes away from the enjoyment of those around him with very little understanding of what he does. One day he may go on to post on a football message board in much the same fashion.[/QUOTE] Someone really has his finger on the pulse of this board! [QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462653]Sounds like you know Erik or you were once him. Hard to imagine grown men criticizing LL age kids here, but not at all surprised.[/QUOTE] What's, kids can't be d-bag a-holes? So grown up d-bag a-holes were all sweet innocent chidren and then one day, magically, instant d-bag a-holes? Strange.

05-08-2012, 01:08 PM	#95
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=brady's a catcher;4462703]What's, kids can't be d-bag a-holes? So grown up d-bag a-holes were all sweet innocent chidren and then one day, magically, instant d-bag a-holes? Strange.[/QUOTE] No reason to bash kids on a football message board is all im saying. Hard to imagine a meaningless LL baseball game warranting a post and all that anger.

05-08-2012, 01:51 PM	#96
brady's a catcher R.I.P Goofy Maloof All Pro Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 6,692	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462716]No reason to bash kids on a football message board is all im saying. Hard to imagine a meaningless LL baseball game warranting a post and all that anger.[/QUOTE] No last name, no pic, no address, I think the little finger-sniffer's anonymity is pretty safe. Bushy had a rough weekend, terrorized by his a-hole cat, peen about to fall off, you can understand where Erik would push him over the edge.

05-08-2012, 02:43 PM	#98
GMCJETS Been there done that. Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,658	[QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4462843]Hmmm...just saw the latest standings. The league apparently ruled the game a tie. Not sure where they got that from. But maybe it's for the best. Possibly it was something the opposing coaches worked out as a compromise. They recorded the final score as 13-13.[/QUOTE] The team that couldnt field 9 players needs to get a forfeit L. LL is supposed to be the feeder program for the high school program. Part of the game is showing up for each and every practice and game. When you sign up part of the responsibility is both on the parent/child to be there. No excuses.

05-08-2012, 02:45 PM	#99
SCITSCAT Hoping Idzik is the GM we've Needed! Am Hopeful. Veteran Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,059	[QUOTE=SAR I;4460928]I'm sorry, but what did Erik do wrong exactly? SAR I[/QUOTE] :P Sorry guys, been coaching Baseball, Basketball, & Soccer for 20 years, and according to the rules in our leagues, if you don't have enough players, you forfeit. So, if they left before the game was over, they lost.... We would have played the game through, to give the kids the opportunity to play, but it would have gone in the standings as a forfeit.

05-08-2012, 02:45 PM	#100
brady's a catcher R.I.P Goofy Maloof All Pro Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 6,692	[QUOTE=GMCJETS;4462865]The team that couldnt field 9 players needs to get a forfeit L. LL is supposed to be the feeder program for the high school program. Part of the game is showing up for each and every practice and game. When you sign up part of the responsibility is both on the parent/child to be there. No excuses.[/QUOTE] Why are you getting so fired up over a meaningless LL game?