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NY's stepchild · 05-15-2012, 07:59 AM

[QUOTE=Ryan's Revenge;4468346]You know how many preachers got scalped trying to make disciples out of the injuns ?

This is football... glad you have a belief system that renders itself harmless to others.. So do I, it just doesn't have anything to do with that..in fact, we have issues with just about everything because some people want to impose that crap on others..

I am all for imposing, as long as the imposee wants it.. who am I to stop a masochist from fulfilling their destiny ?

The problem is Tebow is a bruiser, and obviously has strength and some talent, in fact he may have a lot of talent..yet to be seen , may NEVER be seen, but he confuses THAT issue by using his football *talents* bla bla as his *platform*.

If you're gonna build a pool in my backyard, fine.. give me a price, let me look your contract over, etc..BUT when you show up, don't get in my backyard and start playing religious music, and preaching to my dog..[/QUOTE]

We don't go for the racial slurs around here...they are called India people, not In-juns

McGinley · 05-15-2012, 07:59 AM

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468423]I am guessing because the same reason sanchez will be looking over his shoulder their is real competition for him now. For the first time he is not the most loved poster boy on the jets. When you have a 1a and 1b QB I am guessing each will have people rooting for them and last i knew people loved a good debate......:P[/QUOTE]

You're missing the point. This is, or at least was, a thread about Sanchez. And wouldn't you know it, it became all about Tebow. Do you know how annoying that is? Keep the Tebowmania in a thread of it's own. We don't need to hear about Tebow 24/7.

Honestly, the reason I hate Tebow being here is because it's all I get to hear about now. Last I knew, we were the New York Jets and not the New York Tebows. If you wanna support the guy, that's fine. But at least recognize that there is a time and place for it, and that time and place isn't every thread.

NY's stepchild · 05-15-2012, 08:05 AM

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468420]again you can not lump false Christians in with real ones that is not fair, what if you were lumped into a category because someone who pretends to be in your family does something stupid? The lesson is not to lump bible thumpers together and get to know them 1 on 1.............your already tainted because of a few bad apples and discount all the good Christianity has done in the world.

What if I said everyone with the screen name ryans revenge was an idiot and everyone blocked you on every internet site you went on? Sounds dumb I know but that is what happens when you lump people together that and slavery.

Alot of christians that live paychk to paychk give alot more to help people than people like holmes and plax who give out of contract or image rather than love.

People like those idiots and thousands of others in football are the lip service Christians that jesus says do not pray in public not guys like tebow that are real.[/QUOTE]

Who are you to say which are "real" Christians, and which are "false". No where in the Bibles does it even say which denomination is the correct one. You won't find out whether you picked the right one until you're lined up at the pearly gates. I believe he was talking about all the atrocities done in God's name, and by "real" christians, that believed they were doing God's work.

copernicus · 05-15-2012, 08:08 AM

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468420]again you can not lump false Christians in with real ones that is not fair, what if you were lumped into a category because someone who pretends to be in your family does something stupid? The lesson is not to lump bible thumpers together and get to know them 1 on 1.............your already tainted because of a few bad apples and discount all the good Christianity has done in the world.

What if I said everyone with the screen name ryans revenge was an idiot and everyone blocked you on every internet site you went on? Sounds dumb I know but that is what happens when you lump people together that and slavery.

Alot of christians that live paychk to paychk give alot more to help people than people like holmes and plax who give out of contract or image rather than love.

People like those idiots and thousands of others in football are the lip service Christians that jesus says do not pray in public not guys like tebow that are real.[/QUOTE]

Awesome, more religious talk......:rolleyes:

ucrenegade · 05-15-2012, 08:22 AM

[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4468431]Who are you to say which are "real" Christians, and which are "false". No where in the Bibles does it even say which denomination is the correct one. You won't find out whether you picked the right one until you're lined up at the pearly gates. I believe he was talking about all the atrocities done in God's name, and by "real" christians, that believed they were doing God's work.[/QUOTE]

I know like I said I hope I am a real christian but I won't know till I get there.............I just know that for every real christian their are 10 false ones and they seem to be the ones in the eye more thus giving real Christians a bad name and rep.

McGinley · 05-15-2012, 08:25 AM

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468435]I know like I said I hope I am a real christian but I won't know till I get there.............I just know that for every real christian their are 10 false ones and they seem to be the ones in the eye more thus giving real Christians a bad name and rep.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Still, not sure what this has to do with football.

Rexipus Rex · 05-15-2012, 08:35 AM

[QUOTE=McGinley;4468429]You're missing the point. This is, or at least was, a thread about Sanchez. And wouldn't you know it, it became all about Tebow. Do you know how annoying that is? Keep the Tebowmania in a thread of it's own. We don't need to hear about Tebow 24/7.

Honestly, the reason I hate Tebow being here is because it's all I get to hear about now. Last I knew, we were the New York Jets and not the New York Tebows. If you wanna support the guy, that's fine. But at least recognize that there is a time and place for it, and that time and place isn't every thread.[/QUOTE]

+ 1,000,000

ucrenegade · 05-15-2012, 08:57 AM

[QUOTE=McGinley;4468437]I agree. Still, not sure what this has to do with football.[/QUOTE]

you know what is real funny those that love sanchez and hate tebow and are mad because threads go religous are the first to mention it in a thread.............for instance this thread on post 154 page 8 gandwfan was the first to mention jesus.

on page 9 post 175 i mentioned religion in defense to being called a jesus freak but I had at least 6-8 posts before that with no mention of religion.

That is how it is in most threads for people that do not want to talk about religion why are they the first to post about it?

It is kind of like life people against religion start stuff then the Christians get blamed because they defended themself.

Ryan's Revenge · 05-15-2012, 09:02 AM

wasn't gonna do this..seriously..

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468416]That is why it is called freedom to choose you can choose not to listen but IF just one person does listen but 100 do not then it was worth it to save that 1. Also your talking about being on personal property as opposed to being public.....;)[/quote] It boils down to opinion about when and where someone approaches someone about their need, if any, of a spiritual nature... you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink...and besides, proselytizing has long since been a failure in public arenas since the advent of hidden cameras and recording devices..guys like Robertson act like purple people eaters from mars sometimes..THAT is what gives Christianity a bad name.

If Tebow messes up at one of these gala events or some yacht launching or whatever:rolleyes: and gets his picture coming out of an elevator with some babes hands shoved down his pants (highly unlikely, I know) the whole Lord and Savior gig will be up..

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468416]

people can say all kinds of bad things about religion but let someone stick up for it and that is bad? [/quote] Regardless of what you may [I][B]think[/B][/I]you have derived from my statements, I am not anti-Christian, per say..I happen to believe that when a person really wants to live better, they will find a way..and if it is the way you have, through Christianity..well then Amen, brother amen...[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468416]

I do not care if people say they believe in purple people eaters on mars that is their choice but I will not tell them they should be quiet.[/QUOTE]

You seem like a nice guy, seriously..
But, I don't buy that for a second..I just don't... you say that now in this post, but if there were suddenly millions of people on tv saying that purple people eaters from mars are real (and we should all believe in them, etc) I KNOW you would be out of your mind.

I get your point, do you get mine ? The religious right in this country, for instance is presently losing its grip over right to life, same sex issues, and since they are out of bounds, in reality...my opinion of course, they stay frustrated and convoluted and just generally piss people off.
The best Christian people I know don't proselytize, they just live good and keep people guessing.

[QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4468425]Average completion percentage between Sanchez and Tebow: 51.6%

Average QB rating: 75.5[/QUOTE]

Average scum cheater/philanderer/pos rating of head coach of teams out of jizboro 100%
Average loser rating of patriots fans 100%

[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4468428]We don't go for the racial slurs around here...they are called India people, not In-juns[/QUOTE]

:P:P:P

McGinley · 05-15-2012, 09:03 AM

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468460]you know what is real funny those that love sanchez and hate tebow and are mad because threads go religous are the first to mention it in a thread.............for instance this thread on post 154 page 8 gandwfan was the first to mention jesus.

on page 9 post 175 i mentioned religion in defense to being called a jesus freak but I had at least 6-8 posts before that with no mention of religion.

That is how it is in most threads for people that do not want to talk about religion why are they the first to post about it?

It is kind of like life people against religion start stuff then the Christians get blamed because they defended themself.[/QUOTE]

Why defend yourself against that anyway? Didn't The Holy Bible say that you would be persecuted for Christ's namesake, and that it just means you're doing good/well?

And I don't believe I said that you started the talk, I just said that I hate it when it happens. Not about religion, but about Tebowmania. It's annoying.

ucrenegade · 05-15-2012, 09:17 AM

[QUOTE=Ryan's Revenge;4468464]

I get your point, do you get mine ? [B]The religious right in this country, for instance is presently losing its grip over right to life, same sex issues, and since they are out of bounds, in reality.[/B]..my opinion of course, they stay frustrated and convoluted and just generally piss people off.
The best Christian people I know don't proselytize, they just live good and keep people guessing.

[/QUOTE]

Oh I get you and like I said in this football thread religion was first mentioned by someone that said they do not like the religion talk and I only mentioned it on page 9 to defend myself.............but the bolded part I truly agree with and think that is why we need religion more. I do not interject it in every conversation unless I defend a belief or see a need for it. I am not saying I am great look at me I do not know every verse of the bible as evidenced by me having to go back and do some studying on what one person said in the politics forum on it but still it leads me back whether who is right or wrong or both I am thankful.

ucrenegade · 05-15-2012, 09:21 AM

[QUOTE=McGinley;4468465]Why defend yourself against that anyway? Didn't The Holy Bible say that you would be persecuted for Christ's namesake, and that it just means you're doing good/well?

And I don't believe I said that you started the talk, I just said that I hate it when it happens. Not about religion, but about Tebowmania. It's annoying.[/QUOTE]

oh i def believe that but i defended myself to hopefully lead people closer...............if people thinking i am a nut/biblefreak/biblethumper/wacko but they think or research what I said for one second than i can live with that...........I am wondering if the people who be quiet and shut-up can live with the fact they have a chance to save someone everday but don't?

cant wait · 05-15-2012, 09:49 AM

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468435]I know like I said I hope I am a real christian but I won't know till I get there.............I just know that for every real christian their are 10 false ones and they seem to be the ones in the eye more thus giving real Christians a bad name and rep.[/QUOTE]

This place would be a lot easier to follow if we had a separate forum for the tebow stuff

augustiniak · 05-15-2012, 09:52 AM

does anyone think cavanaugh is going out of his way to praise tebow and criticize sanchez? i'm wondering if cavanaugh is either very frustrated with sanchez's decision making or is still trying to light a fire under him. not sure.

McGinley · 05-15-2012, 09:57 AM

[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468479]oh i def believe that but i defended myself to hopefully lead people closer...............if people thinking i am a nut/biblefreak/biblethumper/wacko but they think or research what I said for one second than i can live with that...........I am wondering if the people who be quiet and shut-up can live with the fact they have a chance to save someone everday but don't?[/QUOTE]

But people will know you by your actions anyway, right? And you know how people are: they're just gonna hate regardless.

bgivs21 · 05-15-2012, 10:05 AM

what was once a good thread with debates about Sanchez and discussion of the article has once again turned into a Tebow thread by our good friend grenade.

We let him do this with every other Sanchez thread, are we going to continue to let him does this without any punishment? Because its unfair to others who want to talk/debate about said article or player involved in the article.

How far down the tebow hole will we go??

I say give him the medieval christian punishment, burn him at the stake!!

ASG0531 · 05-15-2012, 10:09 AM

[QUOTE=augustiniak;4468506]does anyone think cavanaugh is going out of his way to praise tebow and criticize sanchez? i'm wondering if cavanaugh is either very frustrated with sanchez's decision making or is still trying to light a fire under him. not sure.[/QUOTE]

I think it's more relevant that Tebow is only working as a QB and with Cavanaugh so far... when does he learn to become a TE, FB, HB, punt protector, etc? In training camp?

CraigFL · 05-15-2012, 10:12 AM

So who is this Mark Sanchez this thread speaks of? I was reading this last page hoping to find out but he doesn't seem to be mentioned. :alien:

Piper · 05-15-2012, 10:12 AM

[QUOTE=augustiniak;4468506]does anyone think cavanaugh is going out of his way to praise tebow and criticize sanchez? i'm wondering if cavanaugh is either very frustrated with sanchez's decision making or is still trying to light a fire under him. not sure.[/QUOTE]

He's more likely trying to distract from the fact that no QB's have improved dramatically under his coaching and he is trying to keep people off the real question of why does he still have a job here.

ucrenegade · 05-15-2012, 10:15 AM

[QUOTE=bgivs21;4468517]what was once a good thread with debates about Sanchez and discussion of the article has once again turned into a Tebow thread by our good friend grenade.

We let him do this with every other Sanchez thread, are we going to continue to let him does this without any punishment? Because its unfair to others who want to talk/debate about said article or player involved in the article.

How far down the tebow hole will we go??

I say give him the medieval christian punishment, burn him at the stake!![/QUOTE]

another blind one like i said the first mention of religion was by a tebow hater on post 154

I did not mention religion until post 175...........which was after my first 6-8 posts on the thread.............why do people reply to stuff without reading the thread first kinda makes you look like the one who has a agenda not me.

05-15-2012, 10:09 AM	#217
ASG0531 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,809	[QUOTE=augustiniak;4468506]does anyone think cavanaugh is going out of his way to praise tebow and criticize sanchez? i'm wondering if cavanaugh is either very frustrated with sanchez's decision making or is still trying to light a fire under him. not sure.[/QUOTE] I think it's more relevant that Tebow is only working as a QB and with Cavanaugh so far... when does he learn to become a TE, FB, HB, punt protector, etc? In training camp? Last edited by ASG0531; 05-15-2012 at 10:12 AM.

05-15-2012, 07:59 AM	#201
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,853	[QUOTE=Ryan's Revenge;4468346]You know how many preachers got scalped trying to make disciples out of the injuns ? This is football... glad you have a belief system that renders itself harmless to others.. So do I, it just doesn't have anything to do with that..in fact, we have issues with just about everything because some people want to impose that crap on others.. I am all for imposing, as long as the imposee wants it.. who am I to stop a masochist from fulfilling their destiny ? The problem is Tebow is a bruiser, and obviously has strength and some talent, in fact he may have a lot of talent..yet to be seen , may NEVER be seen, but he confuses THAT issue by using his football talents bla bla as his platform. If you're gonna build a pool in my backyard, fine.. give me a price, let me look your contract over, etc..BUT when you show up, don't get in my backyard and start playing religious music, and preaching to my dog..[/QUOTE] We don't go for the racial slurs around here...they are called India people, not In-juns

05-15-2012, 07:59 AM	#202
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,622	[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468423]I am guessing because the same reason sanchez will be looking over his shoulder their is real competition for him now. For the first time he is not the most loved poster boy on the jets. When you have a 1a and 1b QB I am guessing each will have people rooting for them and last i knew people loved a good debate......:P[/QUOTE] You're missing the point. This is, or at least was, a thread about Sanchez. And wouldn't you know it, it became all about Tebow. Do you know how annoying that is? Keep the Tebowmania in a thread of it's own. We don't need to hear about Tebow 24/7. Honestly, the reason I hate Tebow being here is because it's all I get to hear about now. Last I knew, we were the New York Jets and not the New York Tebows. If you wanna support the guy, that's fine. But at least recognize that there is a time and place for it, and that time and place isn't every thread.

05-15-2012, 08:05 AM	#203
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,853	[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468420]again you can not lump false Christians in with real ones that is not fair, what if you were lumped into a category because someone who pretends to be in your family does something stupid? The lesson is not to lump bible thumpers together and get to know them 1 on 1.............your already tainted because of a few bad apples and discount all the good Christianity has done in the world. What if I said everyone with the screen name ryans revenge was an idiot and everyone blocked you on every internet site you went on? Sounds dumb I know but that is what happens when you lump people together that and slavery. Alot of christians that live paychk to paychk give alot more to help people than people like holmes and plax who give out of contract or image rather than love. People like those idiots and thousands of others in football are the lip service Christians that jesus says do not pray in public not guys like tebow that are real.[/QUOTE] Who are you to say which are "real" Christians, and which are "false". No where in the Bibles does it even say which denomination is the correct one. You won't find out whether you picked the right one until you're lined up at the pearly gates. I believe he was talking about all the atrocities done in God's name, and by "real" christians, that believed they were doing God's work.

05-15-2012, 08:08 AM	#204
copernicus All Pro Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,130	[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468420]again you can not lump false Christians in with real ones that is not fair, what if you were lumped into a category because someone who pretends to be in your family does something stupid? The lesson is not to lump bible thumpers together and get to know them 1 on 1.............your already tainted because of a few bad apples and discount all the good Christianity has done in the world. What if I said everyone with the screen name ryans revenge was an idiot and everyone blocked you on every internet site you went on? Sounds dumb I know but that is what happens when you lump people together that and slavery. Alot of christians that live paychk to paychk give alot more to help people than people like holmes and plax who give out of contract or image rather than love. People like those idiots and thousands of others in football are the lip service Christians that jesus says do not pray in public not guys like tebow that are real.[/QUOTE] Awesome, more religious talk......:rolleyes:

05-15-2012, 08:22 AM	#205
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,031	[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4468431]Who are you to say which are "real" Christians, and which are "false". No where in the Bibles does it even say which denomination is the correct one. You won't find out whether you picked the right one until you're lined up at the pearly gates. I believe he was talking about all the atrocities done in God's name, and by "real" christians, that believed they were doing God's work.[/QUOTE] I know like I said I hope I am a real christian but I won't know till I get there.............I just know that for every real christian their are 10 false ones and they seem to be the ones in the eye more thus giving real Christians a bad name and rep.

05-15-2012, 08:25 AM	#206
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,622	[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468435]I know like I said I hope I am a real christian but I won't know till I get there.............I just know that for every real christian their are 10 false ones and they seem to be the ones in the eye more thus giving real Christians a bad name and rep.[/QUOTE] I agree. Still, not sure what this has to do with football.

05-15-2012, 08:35 AM	#207
Rexipus Rex Mo' money Veteran Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: E'Ville Posts: 1,202	[QUOTE=McGinley;4468429]You're missing the point. This is, or at least was, a thread about Sanchez. And wouldn't you know it, it became all about Tebow. Do you know how annoying that is? Keep the Tebowmania in a thread of it's own. We don't need to hear about Tebow 24/7. Honestly, the reason I hate Tebow being here is because it's all I get to hear about now. Last I knew, we were the New York Jets and not the New York Tebows. If you wanna support the guy, that's fine. But at least recognize that there is a time and place for it, and that time and place isn't every thread.[/QUOTE] + 1,000,000

05-15-2012, 08:57 AM	#208
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,031	[QUOTE=McGinley;4468437]I agree. Still, not sure what this has to do with football.[/QUOTE] you know what is real funny those that love sanchez and hate tebow and are mad because threads go religous are the first to mention it in a thread.............for instance this thread on post 154 page 8 gandwfan was the first to mention jesus. on page 9 post 175 i mentioned religion in defense to being called a jesus freak but I had at least 6-8 posts before that with no mention of religion. That is how it is in most threads for people that do not want to talk about religion why are they the first to post about it? It is kind of like life people against religion start stuff then the Christians get blamed because they defended themself.

05-15-2012, 09:02 AM	#209
Ryan's Revenge Heard it on the X Rookie Join Date: May 2012 Location: Disneyworld Posts: 97	wasn't gonna do this..seriously.. [QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468416]That is why it is called freedom to choose you can choose not to listen but IF just one person does listen but 100 do not then it was worth it to save that 1. Also your talking about being on personal property as opposed to being public.....;)[/quote] It boils down to opinion about when and where someone approaches someone about their need, if any, of a spiritual nature... you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink...and besides, proselytizing has long since been a failure in public arenas since the advent of hidden cameras and recording devices..guys like Robertson act like purple people eaters from mars sometimes..THAT is what gives Christianity a bad name. If Tebow messes up at one of these gala events or some yacht launching or whatever:rolleyes: and gets his picture coming out of an elevator with some babes hands shoved down his pants (highly unlikely, I know) the whole Lord and Savior gig will be up.. [QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468416] people can say all kinds of bad things about religion but let someone stick up for it and that is bad? [/quote] Regardless of what you may [I][B]think[/B][/I]you have derived from my statements, I am not anti-Christian, per say..I happen to believe that when a person really wants to live better, they will find a way..and if it is the way you have, through Christianity..well then Amen, brother amen...[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468416] I do not care if people say they believe in purple people eaters on mars that is their choice but I will not tell them they should be quiet.[/QUOTE] You seem like a nice guy, seriously.. But, I don't buy that for a second..I just don't... you say that now in this post, but if there were suddenly millions of people on tv saying that purple people eaters from mars are real (and we should all believe in them, etc) I KNOW you would be out of your mind. I get your point, do you get mine ? The religious right in this country, for instance is presently losing its grip over right to life, same sex issues, and since they are out of bounds, in reality...my opinion of course, they stay frustrated and convoluted and just generally piss people off. The best Christian people I know don't proselytize, they just live good and keep people guessing. [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4468425]Average completion percentage between Sanchez and Tebow: 51.6% Average QB rating: 75.5[/QUOTE] Average scum cheater/philanderer/pos rating of head coach of teams out of jizboro 100% Average loser rating of patriots fans 100% [QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4468428]We don't go for the racial slurs around here...they are called India people, not In-juns[/QUOTE] :P:P:P

05-15-2012, 09:03 AM	#210
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,622	[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468460]you know what is real funny those that love sanchez and hate tebow and are mad because threads go religous are the first to mention it in a thread.............for instance this thread on post 154 page 8 gandwfan was the first to mention jesus. on page 9 post 175 i mentioned religion in defense to being called a jesus freak but I had at least 6-8 posts before that with no mention of religion. That is how it is in most threads for people that do not want to talk about religion why are they the first to post about it? It is kind of like life people against religion start stuff then the Christians get blamed because they defended themself.[/QUOTE] Why defend yourself against that anyway? Didn't The Holy Bible say that you would be persecuted for Christ's namesake, and that it just means you're doing good/well? And I don't believe I said that you started the talk, I just said that I hate it when it happens. Not about religion, but about Tebowmania. It's annoying.

05-15-2012, 09:17 AM	#211
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,031	[QUOTE=Ryan's Revenge;4468464] I get your point, do you get mine ? [B]The religious right in this country, for instance is presently losing its grip over right to life, same sex issues, and since they are out of bounds, in reality.[/B]..my opinion of course, they stay frustrated and convoluted and just generally piss people off. The best Christian people I know don't proselytize, they just live good and keep people guessing. [/QUOTE] Oh I get you and like I said in this football thread religion was first mentioned by someone that said they do not like the religion talk and I only mentioned it on page 9 to defend myself.............but the bolded part I truly agree with and think that is why we need religion more. I do not interject it in every conversation unless I defend a belief or see a need for it. I am not saying I am great look at me I do not know every verse of the bible as evidenced by me having to go back and do some studying on what one person said in the politics forum on it but still it leads me back whether who is right or wrong or both I am thankful.

05-15-2012, 09:21 AM	#212
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,031	[QUOTE=McGinley;4468465]Why defend yourself against that anyway? Didn't The Holy Bible say that you would be persecuted for Christ's namesake, and that it just means you're doing good/well? And I don't believe I said that you started the talk, I just said that I hate it when it happens. Not about religion, but about Tebowmania. It's annoying.[/QUOTE] oh i def believe that but i defended myself to hopefully lead people closer...............if people thinking i am a nut/biblefreak/biblethumper/wacko but they think or research what I said for one second than i can live with that...........I am wondering if the people who be quiet and shut-up can live with the fact they have a chance to save someone everday but don't?

05-15-2012, 09:49 AM	#213
cant wait For preseason football Veteran Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 2,024	[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468435]I know like I said I hope I am a real christian but I won't know till I get there.............I just know that for every real christian their are 10 false ones and they seem to be the ones in the eye more thus giving real Christians a bad name and rep.[/QUOTE] This place would be a lot easier to follow if we had a separate forum for the tebow stuff

05-15-2012, 09:52 AM	#214
augustiniak All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,133	does anyone think cavanaugh is going out of his way to praise tebow and criticize sanchez? i'm wondering if cavanaugh is either very frustrated with sanchez's decision making or is still trying to light a fire under him. not sure.

05-15-2012, 09:57 AM	#215
McGinley We Know Geno All Pro Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 7,622	[QUOTE=ucrenegade;4468479]oh i def believe that but i defended myself to hopefully lead people closer...............if people thinking i am a nut/biblefreak/biblethumper/wacko but they think or research what I said for one second than i can live with that...........I am wondering if the people who be quiet and shut-up can live with the fact they have a chance to save someone everday but don't?[/QUOTE] But people will know you by your actions anyway, right? And you know how people are: they're just gonna hate regardless.

05-15-2012, 10:05 AM	#216
bgivs21 Sexy Rexy, the toe Slinger Rookie Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 511	what was once a good thread with debates about Sanchez and discussion of the article has once again turned into a Tebow thread by our good friend grenade. We let him do this with every other Sanchez thread, are we going to continue to let him does this without any punishment? Because its unfair to others who want to talk/debate about said article or player involved in the article. How far down the tebow hole will we go?? I say give him the medieval christian punishment, burn him at the stake!!

05-15-2012, 10:12 AM	#218
CraigFL still a rookie after 4 years. should be SanchezFL Rookie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cape Coral, FL Posts: 993	So who is this Mark Sanchez this thread speaks of? I was reading this last page hoping to find out but he doesn't seem to be mentioned. :alien:

05-15-2012, 10:12 AM	#219
Piper Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: L.I. NY (where the Jets used to be from) Posts: 13,197	[QUOTE=augustiniak;4468506]does anyone think cavanaugh is going out of his way to praise tebow and criticize sanchez? i'm wondering if cavanaugh is either very frustrated with sanchez's decision making or is still trying to light a fire under him. not sure.[/QUOTE] He's more likely trying to distract from the fact that no QB's have improved dramatically under his coaching and he is trying to keep people off the real question of why does he still have a job here.

05-15-2012, 10:15 AM	#220
ucrenegade Is thankful for a loving wonderful GOD. All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Flippen GA Posts: 7,031	[QUOTE=bgivs21;4468517]what was once a good thread with debates about Sanchez and discussion of the article has once again turned into a Tebow thread by our good friend grenade. We let him do this with every other Sanchez thread, are we going to continue to let him does this without any punishment? Because its unfair to others who want to talk/debate about said article or player involved in the article. How far down the tebow hole will we go?? I say give him the medieval christian punishment, burn him at the stake!![/QUOTE] another blind one like i said the first mention of religion was by a tebow hater on post 154 I did not mention religion until post 175...........which was after my first 6-8 posts on the thread.............why do people reply to stuff without reading the thread first kinda makes you look like the one who has a agenda not me.