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MagroCrag · 06-24-2012, 03:37 PM

Per Rotoworld:

Darrelle Revis is scheduled to be the Jets' second highest paid defensive back for the 2012 and 2013 seasons.
Antonio Cromartie's 2012 and 2013 scheduled payouts are greater than Revis'. As ESPN New York's Rich Cimini points out, however, the Jets could counter by arguing they paid Revis $25 million in 2011 alone. Revis does have a decent forward-looking argument if he's to hold out, but we don't expect him to. [B]The holdout controversy seems to be a media creation more than anything.[/B]

Move along, folks. Move along ;)

10PennyToColes87 · 06-24-2012, 04:11 PM

They know because it's common sense, something most of JI lacks.

OCCH · 06-24-2012, 04:12 PM

[QUOTE=MagroCrag;4499582]Per Rotoworld:

Darrelle Revis is scheduled to be the Jets' second highest paid defensive back for the 2012 and 2013 seasons.
Antonio Cromartie's 2012 and 2013 scheduled payouts are greater than Revis'. As ESPN New York's Rich Cimini points out, however, the Jets could counter by arguing they paid Revis $25 million in 2011 alone. [B]Revis does have a decent forward-looking argument if he's to hold out[/B], but we don't expect him to. [B]The holdout controversy seems to be a media creation more than anything.[/B]

Move along, folks. Move along ;)[/QUOTE]

Anyone who says Revis has a "good argument" has no clue what they are talking about.

Next year? Sure. But to totally discount what he's received over the past two years is ignorant at best, and most likely agenda-driven . . .

JetsFanatic · 06-24-2012, 04:43 PM

[QUOTE=OCCH;4499589]Anyone who says Revis has a "good argument" has no clue what they are talking about.

Next year? Sure. But to totally discount what he's received over the past two years is ignorant at best, and most likely agenda-driven . . .[/QUOTE]

I agree 100%. Revis has no argument this season, but a case can be made for next year.

Boynton Beach Jets · 06-24-2012, 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=JetsFanatic;4499597]I agree 100%. Revis has no argument this season, but a case can be made for next year.[/QUOTE]

If Revis holds out it guarantees his contract for 2014 & 2015, he has [B][U]no[/U][/B] leverage. He can bark but that's about it.

NY's stepchild · 06-24-2012, 05:09 PM

It's no different than those idiots saying Sanchez was the highest paid QB last year. Well it's the opposite, but the same principal. Also like people that get paid every 2 weeks trying to collect unemployment every other week.

patman · 06-24-2012, 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=Boynton Beach Jets;4499598]If Revis holds out it guarantees his contract for 2014 & 2015, he has [B][U]no[/U][/B] leverage. He can bark but that's about it.[/QUOTE]

What he can do is ***** and moan, not practice hard, come up lame etc. He can do everything but hold out.

NY's stepchild · 06-24-2012, 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=patman;4499608]What he can do is ***** and moan, not practice hard, come up lame etc. He can do everything but hold out.[/QUOTE]

Nice try, but he's not Ty Law he's Revis. Maybe you've heard of him.

CR8ZMIKE · 06-24-2012, 05:41 PM

Revis won't holdout unless he wants to be traded (fact)
Tanny was brilliant in the way he structured the contract. If he sits you already know what happens.
At the end of the day he wanted a boat load of money and he got it in two years.
He will get a new contact, with enormous amounts of money. He deserves it but as for this year he just wants security. but he does not have any argument to make..
The only leg he has to stand on is his talent. That's it

sg3 · 06-24-2012, 05:55 PM

[QUOTE=OCCH;4499589]Anyone who says Revis has a "good argument" has no clue what they are talking about. . . .[/QUOTE]

The individual who said it was Dick Semen-i thus proving your hypothesis

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EM31 · 06-24-2012, 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=CR8ZMIKE;4499618]Revis won't holdout unless he wants to be traded (fact)
Tanny was brilliant in the way he structured the contract. If he sits you already know what happens.
At the end of the day he wanted a boat load of money and he got it in two years.
He will get a new contact, with enormous amounts of money. He deserves it but as for this year he just wants security. but he does not have any argument to make..
The only leg he has to stand on is his talent. That's it[/QUOTE]
Yeah he was brilliant after f***ing it up the first two times with Revis.

John_0515 · 06-24-2012, 06:14 PM

[QUOTE=EM31;4499627]Yeah he was brilliant after f***ing it up the first two times with Revis.[/QUOTE]

How did Tannenbaum **** it up the first 2 times?

NY's stepchild · 06-24-2012, 06:17 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;4499631]How did Tannenbaum **** it up the first 2 times?[/QUOTE]

Just another Jet hater waiting for someone to bite...Now comes the diatribe.

Limolady · 06-24-2012, 07:05 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;4499631]How did Tannenbaum **** it up the first 2 times?[/QUOTE]

Ask the same people who think Holmes is a cancer & the Jets won't win the SB this season unless they re-sign Braylon and make him the team captain. (-;

Boynton Beach Jets · 06-24-2012, 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=patman;4499608]What he can do is ***** and moan, not practice hard, come up lame etc. He can do everything but hold out.[/QUOTE]

Revis is not that kind of player plus that will only hurt his value.

EM31 · 06-24-2012, 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=John_0515;4499631]How did Tannenbaum **** it up the first 2 times?[/QUOTE]
The first time by insisting on a sixth year and then overpaying by $15 million for a contract that turned out only effective for two years anyway.

The second time by caving in and agreeing to redo the first deal for which the Jets had already overpaid massively.

Both times messing up the timing such that predictably the first thing Revis did when he got back into camp was to go get himself injured right away.

Pathetic GM'ing from start to finish right there.

NY's stepchild · 06-24-2012, 08:07 PM

So we got the best defensive player in the league signed both times, and still were able to keep our core players that were all unrestricted free agents at the same time. A feat that everyone said could not be done btw. So that is of course pathetic. We should have just signed him to the vet minimum, and he should have been grateful for the opportunity. I mean that's what I would have done.

OCCH · 06-24-2012, 08:24 PM

[QUOTE=EM31;4499652]The first time by insisting on a sixth year and then overpaying by $15 million for a contract that turned out only effective for two years anyway.

The second time by caving in and agreeing to redo the first deal for which the Jets had already overpaid massively.

Both times messing up the timing such that predictably the first thing Revis did when he got back into camp was to go get himself injured right away.

Pathetic GM'ing from start to finish right there.[/QUOTE]

Being the best CB in football changes the rules.

And that's coming from someone who doesn't think he's worth the $$ . . .

patman · 06-24-2012, 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4499610]Nice try, but he's not Ty Law he's Revis. Maybe you've heard of him.[/QUOTE]

I don't know what you mean by that. Ty Law moaned but he never held out, is that what you mean?

patman · 06-24-2012, 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=Boynton Beach Jets;4499651]Revis is not that kind of player plus that will only hurt his value.[/QUOTE]

It would hurt his value if he did it next year, not this year. Any team that signs him knows that the possibility that he will attempt to renegotiate before long.

Tanny has always given in to him, he never had any reason to moan, this time tanny may not, no one knows how Revis will react. We do know that he will show up.

06-24-2012, 03:37 PM	#1
MagroCrag Rookie Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 824	Even Rotoworld Knows.... Per Rotoworld: Darrelle Revis is scheduled to be the Jets' second highest paid defensive back for the 2012 and 2013 seasons. Antonio Cromartie's 2012 and 2013 scheduled payouts are greater than Revis'. As ESPN New York's Rich Cimini points out, however, the Jets could counter by arguing they paid Revis $25 million in 2011 alone. Revis does have a decent forward-looking argument if he's to hold out, but we don't expect him to. [B]The holdout controversy seems to be a media creation more than anything.[/B] Move along, folks. Move along ;)

06-24-2012, 04:11 PM	#2
10PennyToColes87 Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: SoFla Posts: 15,379	They know because it's common sense, something most of JI lacks.

06-24-2012, 04:12 PM	#3
OCCH glad I have more purpose in life than Jets football . . . Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,413	[QUOTE=MagroCrag;4499582]Per Rotoworld: Darrelle Revis is scheduled to be the Jets' second highest paid defensive back for the 2012 and 2013 seasons. Antonio Cromartie's 2012 and 2013 scheduled payouts are greater than Revis'. As ESPN New York's Rich Cimini points out, however, the Jets could counter by arguing they paid Revis $25 million in 2011 alone. [B]Revis does have a decent forward-looking argument if he's to hold out[/B], but we don't expect him to. [B]The holdout controversy seems to be a media creation more than anything.[/B] Move along, folks. Move along ;)[/QUOTE] Anyone who says Revis has a "good argument" has no clue what they are talking about. Next year? Sure. But to totally discount what he's received over the past two years is ignorant at best, and most likely agenda-driven . . .

06-24-2012, 04:43 PM	#4
JetsFanatic When you listen to the fans, you sit with the fans! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,938	[QUOTE=OCCH;4499589]Anyone who says Revis has a "good argument" has no clue what they are talking about. Next year? Sure. But to totally discount what he's received over the past two years is ignorant at best, and most likely agenda-driven . . .[/QUOTE] I agree 100%. Revis has no argument this season, but a case can be made for next year.

06-24-2012, 04:46 PM	#5
Boynton Beach Jets Woody Johnson must go!!!! All Pro Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boynton Beach, Florida Posts: 6,166	[QUOTE=JetsFanatic;4499597]I agree 100%. Revis has no argument this season, but a case can be made for next year.[/QUOTE] If Revis holds out it guarantees his contract for 2014 & 2015, he has [B][U]no[/U][/B] leverage. He can bark but that's about it.

06-24-2012, 05:09 PM	#6
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,714	It's no different than those idiots saying Sanchez was the highest paid QB last year. Well it's the opposite, but the same principal. Also like people that get paid every 2 weeks trying to collect unemployment every other week.

06-24-2012, 05:13 PM	#7
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,160	[QUOTE=Boynton Beach Jets;4499598]If Revis holds out it guarantees his contract for 2014 & 2015, he has [B][U]no[/U][/B] leverage. He can bark but that's about it.[/QUOTE] What he can do is ***** and moan, not practice hard, come up lame etc. He can do everything but hold out.

06-24-2012, 05:21 PM	#8
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,714	[QUOTE=patman;4499608]What he can do is ***** and moan, not practice hard, come up lame etc. He can do everything but hold out.[/QUOTE] Nice try, but he's not Ty Law he's Revis. Maybe you've heard of him.

06-24-2012, 05:41 PM	#9
CR8ZMIKE Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Queens NY Posts: 133	Revis won't holdout unless he wants to be traded (fact) Tanny was brilliant in the way he structured the contract. If he sits you already know what happens. At the end of the day he wanted a boat load of money and he got it in two years. He will get a new contact, with enormous amounts of money. He deserves it but as for this year he just wants security. but he does not have any argument to make.. The only leg he has to stand on is his talent. That's it

06-24-2012, 05:55 PM	#10
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,400	[QUOTE=OCCH;4499589]Anyone who says Revis has a "good argument" has no clue what they are talking about. . . .[/QUOTE] The individual who said it was Dick Semen-i thus proving your hypothesis Sent from my SGH-T679 using Tapatalk 2

06-24-2012, 06:04 PM	#11
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,167	[QUOTE=CR8ZMIKE;4499618]Revis won't holdout unless he wants to be traded (fact) Tanny was brilliant in the way he structured the contract. If he sits you already know what happens. At the end of the day he wanted a boat load of money and he got it in two years. He will get a new contact, with enormous amounts of money. He deserves it but as for this year he just wants security. but he does not have any argument to make.. The only leg he has to stand on is his talent. That's it[/QUOTE] Yeah he was brilliant after f***ing it up the first two times with Revis.

06-24-2012, 06:14 PM	#12
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,130	[QUOTE=EM31;4499627]Yeah he was brilliant after f*ing it up the first two times with Revis.[/QUOTE] How did Tannenbaum ** it up the first 2 times?

06-24-2012, 06:17 PM	#13
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,714	[QUOTE=John_0515;4499631]How did Tannenbaum **** it up the first 2 times?[/QUOTE] Just another Jet hater waiting for someone to bite...Now comes the diatribe.

06-24-2012, 07:05 PM	#14
Limolady Here On A "Need To Know" Basis. Jets Insider VIP Super*****/Prom Queen Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 16,399	[QUOTE=John_0515;4499631]How did Tannenbaum **** it up the first 2 times?[/QUOTE] Ask the same people who think Holmes is a cancer & the Jets won't win the SB this season unless they re-sign Braylon and make him the team captain. (-;

06-24-2012, 07:50 PM	#15
Boynton Beach Jets Woody Johnson must go!!!! All Pro Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Boynton Beach, Florida Posts: 6,166	[QUOTE=patman;4499608]What he can do is ***** and moan, not practice hard, come up lame etc. He can do everything but hold out.[/QUOTE] Revis is not that kind of player plus that will only hurt his value.

06-24-2012, 07:55 PM	#16
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,167	[QUOTE=John_0515;4499631]How did Tannenbaum **** it up the first 2 times?[/QUOTE] The first time by insisting on a sixth year and then overpaying by $15 million for a contract that turned out only effective for two years anyway. The second time by caving in and agreeing to redo the first deal for which the Jets had already overpaid massively. Both times messing up the timing such that predictably the first thing Revis did when he got back into camp was to go get himself injured right away. Pathetic GM'ing from start to finish right there.

06-24-2012, 08:07 PM	#17
NY's stepchild Here's hoping that GS3 under center, and Coples on the edge works out. All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hawthorne NJ Posts: 4,714	So we got the best defensive player in the league signed both times, and still were able to keep our core players that were all unrestricted free agents at the same time. A feat that everyone said could not be done btw. So that is of course pathetic. We should have just signed him to the vet minimum, and he should have been grateful for the opportunity. I mean that's what I would have done.

06-24-2012, 08:24 PM	#18
OCCH glad I have more purpose in life than Jets football . . . Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,413	[QUOTE=EM31;4499652]The first time by insisting on a sixth year and then overpaying by $15 million for a contract that turned out only effective for two years anyway. The second time by caving in and agreeing to redo the first deal for which the Jets had already overpaid massively. Both times messing up the timing such that predictably the first thing Revis did when he got back into camp was to go get himself injured right away. Pathetic GM'ing from start to finish right there.[/QUOTE] Being the best CB in football changes the rules. And that's coming from someone who doesn't think he's worth the $$ . . .

06-24-2012, 09:15 PM	#19
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,160	[QUOTE=NY's stepchild;4499610]Nice try, but he's not Ty Law he's Revis. Maybe you've heard of him.[/QUOTE] I don't know what you mean by that. Ty Law moaned but he never held out, is that what you mean?

06-24-2012, 09:20 PM	#20
patman happy to be here All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 7,160	[QUOTE=Boynton Beach Jets;4499651]Revis is not that kind of player plus that will only hurt his value.[/QUOTE] It would hurt his value if he did it next year, not this year. Any team that signs him knows that the possibility that he will attempt to renegotiate before long. Tanny has always given in to him, he never had any reason to moan, this time tanny may not, no one knows how Revis will react. We do know that he will show up.