AJ Burnett

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9-2




Lmao

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[JetPotato]

NL

[Apache 51]

NPOA?

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Originally Posted by JetPotato

NL

Yeah... But still hilarious to me.

Im funny like that.



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[DDNYjets]

Good for him. Played a key role in the 2009 WS championship. Made almost every start and didnt make excuses.

Some guys just don't work out here.

[adb280z]

Originally Posted by JetPotato

NL

It's not the NL, it's being in Pittsburgh with no pressure vs NY and lots of pressure.

[JetPotato]

Originally Posted by adb280z

It's not the NL, it's being in Pittsburgh with no pressure vs NY and lots of pressure.

It's the NL.

[adb280z]

Originally Posted by JetPotato

It's the NL.

You have an overly inflated opinion of the difference between the two leagues. It's worth about half a run.

[chirorob]

Originally Posted by JetPotato

It's the NL.

Then why isn't everyone 9-2 who goes from the AL to the NL?

It's being out of the pressure. He might have even more wins if he didn't break his face trying to bunt during spring training.

How sickening to think AJ Burnett, ALL STAR?

[Ruby2]

LOL at the its the NL argument

Put Burnett in a similar baseball purgatory where no one cares about the team such as Kansas City and he would have the same results.

[Al Woodall Rocks!]

Originally Posted by adb280z

It's not the NL, it's being in Pittsburgh with no pressure vs NY and lots of pressure.

Yep.
Pathetic & gutless, but yep.

[Dreamers]

The fact that Carl Pavano was the twins "ACE" was much more disturbing to me. At least AJ is still like the 4th guy in Pitts.

[k.Rhodes25]

I said he was going to do good with the Pirates, low pressure and NL ball. Completely different situation than pitching for the Yankees in the AL East.

[JetPotato]

Originally Posted by Ruby2

LOL at the its the NL argument

Put Burnett in a similar baseball purgatory where no one cares about the team such as Kansas City and he would have the same results.

Right. So if you ignore all the stats, all the facts, all the analysis, the interleague records in both NL and AL stadiums, and the obvious difference in the rules, and JUST BELIEVE it because you want to, I guess you could make a case that it is just as hard to pitch in the NL as it is in the AL

[Ruby2]

Originally Posted by JetPotato

Right. So if you ignore all the stats, all the facts, all the analysis, the interleague records in both NL and AL stadiums, and the obvious difference in the rules, and JUST BELIEVE it because you want to, I guess you could make a case that it is just as hard to pitch in the NL as it is in the AL

You are such a deek.

Of course he benefits from the NL, but be real here, Burnett has always had the physical tools, just lacked the mental aspect of the game. He was just not built to pitch in NY, period. Again, put him in the AL on a team such as the Royals or Twins, or any other semi relevant, small town team and he would produce in a similar way.

Your OMGZ NL is so lame attitude is childish.

Burnett's year is a COMBINATION of pitching in a place where no one cares, and facing lesser competition. Not simply pitching in the NL. I'm pretty sure most impartial fans feel the same way.

[LadainianIMnotDONE]

The NL and AL argument ended for me about 2 days ago when Cliff Lee officially went 3 months without getting a win in the NL.

Its actually harder for guys to get wins in the NL cause in close games in the NL almost 90% of the time pitchers get taken out of games in the 7th if the 9 hitter is up with a rally. In the NL they go to the bullpen earlier cause of strategy and in the AL the only thing that can stop you is either pitch count or you just deserving to get out of the game. That "its the NL" argument has to be the dumbest argument ever. Some folks say it like the NL is the minor leagues or something lol. 3 out of the last 4 world champs are from the NL.

[DDNYjets]

AL East>AL>NL. FWIW. Build a bridge . . .

Burnett needed to get out of NY. What is strange is that I think he handled it well at first and then it became too much. Which is kind of the opposite of what you would expect.

If Burnett pitches in the All-Star game I am not going to be blaming Cashman. But there will be plenty who will. We have seen it many times with players. It is impossible to predict if a FA is going to handle playing in NY. Now some may seem like a perfect fit like CC b.c of their personalities but you never really know until they get here. I thought Randy Johnson without a doubt would handle himself and on his first day he threw a photographer to the ground. You just never know.

[j3ts83]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

AL East>AL>NL. FWIW. Build a bridge . . .

Burnett needed to get out of NY. What is strange is that I think he handled it well at first and then it became too much. Which is kind of the opposite of what you would expect.

If Burnett pitches in the All-Star game I am not going to be blaming Cashman. But there will be plenty who will. We have seen it many times with players. It is impossible to predict if a FA is going to handle playing in NY. Now some may seem like a perfect fit like CC b.c of their personalities but you never really know until they get here. I thought Randy Johnson without a doubt would handle himself and on his first day he threw a photographer to the ground. You just never know.

I wasn't a Burnett fan at all but why not keep him as a number 5 starter, instead of paying 10 mill of his contract? I don't believe he ever complained last year with whatever his role was.

[DDNYjets]

Originally Posted by j3ts83

I wasn't a Burnett fan at all but why not keep him as a number 5 starter, instead of paying 10 mill of his contract? I don't believe he ever complained last year with whatever his role was.

I think both sides needed a change. I don't think he was happy. He didn't work well with the coaches. But the coaches have blame in that as well. They made him change some things and he wasn't happy about it. I remember seeing/hearing a few quotes after he left regarding that.

Every time he went out there and threw 5 innings it would kill the bullpen and that would effect the next game.

Also the Yankees eating $10MM is like another team eating $3MM. Not the worst thing in the world.

I think both sides are better off.

[JetPotato]

Originally Posted by Ruby2

You are such a deek.

Of course he benefits from the NL, but be real here, Burnett has always had the physical tools, just lacked the mental aspect of the game. He was just not built to pitch in NY, period. Again, put him in the AL on a team such as the Royals or Twins, or any other semi relevant, small town team and he would produce in a similar way.

Your OMGZ NL is so lame attitude is childish.

Burnett's year is a COMBINATION of pitching in a place where no one cares, and facing lesser competition. Not simply pitching in the NL. I'm pretty sure most impartial fans feel the same way.

Facts are not childish. Facts are facts.

By the way, the site lets you spell out dick.

Here's something to read.

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/6/25/31...minance-record

Interleague play between the American and National Leagues is complete for 2012, and the American League won more games.

I could have written that same sentence here every year since 2004, had Baseball Nation been around for all those years, because the AL has now won interleague competition for nine straight seasons. It wasn't close this year -- the final tally was AL 142, NL 110 -- and it hasn't been close in most of the other eight, either:

2011: AL 131, NL 121
2010: AL 134, NL 118
2009: AL 138, NL 114
2008: AL 149, NL 103
2007: AL 137, NL 115
2006: AL 154, NL 98
2005: AL 136, NL 116
2004: AL 127, NL 125
Some will say the leagues are balanced because in those same eight seasons, the National League has won half of the World Series. Obviously, a seven-game series cannot compare to hundreds of regular-season games among 30 different teams (and the Cardinals nearly lost last year's Series). So why is this happening? Is the AL really that far superior? And why?

Some will say it's because the AL has the designated hitter. It's true that AL offenses, in general, score more runs than NL offenses, and AL teams can attract top free agents such as Albert Pujols and Prince Fielder, because those players know that if their defensive skills weaken over time, they can still contribute at DH.

That can't be the only reason, though; the AL winning percentage combined over the nine years is .558, which would translate to 90 wins in a 162-game season, enough for a playoff spot most years.

Some of this can be attributed to the Yankees and their high payrolls -- something the NL cannot match. Overall since interleague play began in 1997, the Yankees are 170-112, a .602 percentage; they have had a winning interleague record for 14 straight years and are 26-10 the last two years.

Conversely, the Chicago Cubs -- despite two playoff seasons since 2007 -- are 38-52 in interleague play during that stretch, and even with a 97-win season in 2008, were 6-9 against the American League that year. But it's not just the bad teams having a tough time in interleague series; even some of the NL teams with top records this year had losing records against AL teams (Reds, 7-8; Dodgers, 6-9; Giants, 7-8). Just three AL teams (Indians, 8-10; Royals, 8-10; Mariners, 8-10) had losing records this year in interleague play, while 10 of 16 NL teams couldn't break .500 against AL teams.

A Sporting News article from 2011 suggested the AL has tougher pitchers, since they have to face DH-filled lineups every day, and that NL pitchers, not used to this, suffer when they have to face nine hitters instead of eight and a pitcher.

Whatever the reason, what we do know is that the entire concept is going to change in 2013 when the Astros move to the American League. Instead of being confined to one weekend in May and a two-week run in June, interleague play will be scattered throughout the season, because with two 15-team leagues, the schedule will have to include at least one interleague series at all times. There might still be a stretch when more interleague series are scheduled, but MLB has not yet figured that out -- nor even whether the current number of interleague games will remain, or whether that number will be increased.

Whether the AL will continue to dominate in future years, then, with interleague play spread out, is anyone's guess. Another X-factor is whether the NL will adopt the DH or not; if the DH is made MLB-wide, that could even out the competition.

Regardless, we have reached the end of one era in interleague play with one league in utter dominance of the other-- whatever 2013 brings, there's no doubt it will be different