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Jetdawgg · 07-04-2012, 10:05 AM

greenwichjetfan · 07-04-2012, 12:03 PM

This guy is pathetic. Seems like he went out of his way to create this situation and touch up on his gun laws so he could 'show up' a cop.

I'm not the fondest of cops, but i also understand that overall, theyre just doing their job. This kid seems like a grade A dooshbag. That is definitely a crime I suspect him of.

Tucker134 · 07-04-2012, 12:13 PM

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I'd like to see that police officer kick the livin sh*t out of that loser....

Jetdawgg · 07-04-2012, 01:46 PM

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I'd like to see that police officer kick the livin sh*t out of that loser....

For using his intelligence?

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 07-04-2012, 01:47 PM

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For using his intelligence?

For baiting and being an attention whore...

Jetdawgg · 07-04-2012, 02:00 PM

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For baiting and being an attention whore...

Baiting? Gun ownership is as American as Apple Pie, Furthermore, he has the proper permissions.

cr726 · 07-04-2012, 02:09 PM

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For using his intelligence?

The kid is not correct on the majority of the sh1t coming out of his mouth.

Jetdawgg · 07-04-2012, 02:16 PM

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The kid is not correct on the majority of the sh1t coming out of his mouth.

If that is so, what does that say about the LEO's who returned his legal firearm to him?

cr726 · 07-04-2012, 02:28 PM

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If that is so, what does that say about the LEO's who returned his legal firearm to him?

The LEO knew it was a idiot kid attempting to make a point. The kid is a complete jerkoff. Which Portland did this occur in Maine or Oregon

Axil · 07-04-2012, 03:26 PM

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The kid is not correct on the majority of the sh1t coming out of his mouth.

In that case, it should be easy enough for you to point out some specific errors, yes?

cr726 · 07-04-2012, 03:31 PM

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In that case, it should be easy enough for you to point out some specific errors, yes?

What would the cop gain by arguing with the idiot?

FYI this occurred in Portland Maine.

DDNYjets · 07-04-2012, 04:13 PM

LOL. I bet that kid thinks he is so cool. Everybody is anti-police until they actually need the police.

What a phuckin tool. Who cites case law on a sidewalk?

gunnails · 07-04-2012, 05:24 PM

He's not a lawyer.

Although I might not agree with his motives, and I can say if I were to ever openly carry I would handle a LEO encounter different, I have to say.

I will never disparage someone who chooses to exercise there inalienable rites, the guy did absolutely nothing wrong.

gunnails · 07-04-2012, 05:25 PM

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The kid is not correct on the majority of the sh1t coming out of his mouth.

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What was he wrong on?

cr726 · 07-04-2012, 06:01 PM

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What was he wrong on?

The police officer has a right to protect himself during this Terry stop, he could of frisked this idiot and that is not a search. If there was a 911 call man with a gun, the police had mere suspicion to conduct the stop. The kid refusing to give his name because of the police log? This kid is a jerkoff

gunnails · 07-04-2012, 06:06 PM

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The police officer has a right to protect himself during this Terry stop, he could of frisked this idiot and that is not a search. If there was a 911 call man with a gun, the police had mere suspicion to conduct the stop. The kid refusing to give his name because of the police log? This kid is a jerkoff

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Thank you for your reply, I will study on it and reply back later.

Jetdawgg · 07-04-2012, 06:09 PM

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The police officer has a right to protect himself during this Terry stop, he could of frisked this idiot and that is not a search. If there was a 911 call man with a gun, the police had mere suspicion to conduct the stop. The kid refusing to give his name because of the police log? This kid is a jerkoff

What was his crime?

gunnails · 07-04-2012, 06:16 PM

That didn't take long.

Apologies, but I am going to quote Wiki on this which I believe to be accurate.

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In the United States, a Terry stop is a brief detention of a person by police[1] on reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminal activity but short of probable cause to arrest.
The name derives from Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968),[2] in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that police may briefly detain a person who they reasonably suspect is involved in criminal activity;[3] the Court also held that police may do a limited search of the suspect’s outer garments for weapons if they have a reasonable and articulable suspicion that the person detained may be “armed and dangerous”.[4] When a search for weapons is authorized, the procedure is known as a “stop and frisk”.

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The guy was never detained, he repeatedly asks if he was being detained and if so why. As I understand the Terry stop only comes into play for citizens being detained.

So I suggest that you CR are wrong and not the guy in the video. Please correct me where I am wrong, this is after all kinda of a important point in this discussion and I wish to know the truth.

cr726 · 07-04-2012, 07:15 PM

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What was his crime?

Police can only interact with citizens when there is a crime?

gunnails · 07-04-2012, 07:16 PM

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Police can only interact with citizens when there is a crime?

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Of course not, police after all are citizens also.

07-04-2012, 10:05 AM	#1
Jetdawgg All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,688	Know Your Rights Law Student Put Cops In His Place

07-04-2012, 12:03 PM	#2
greenwichjetfan All League Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4,079	This guy is pathetic. Seems like he went out of his way to create this situation and touch up on his gun laws so he could 'show up' a cop. I'm not the fondest of cops, but i also understand that overall, theyre just doing their job. This kid seems like a grade A dooshbag. That is definitely a crime I suspect him of.

07-04-2012, 04:13 PM	#12
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,297	LOL. I bet that kid thinks he is so cool. Everybody is anti-police until they actually need the police. What a phuckin tool. Who cites case law on a sidewalk?

07-04-2012, 05:24 PM	#13
gunnails All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,519	He's not a lawyer. Although I might not agree with his motives, and I can say if I were to ever openly carry I would handle a LEO encounter different, I have to say. I will never disparage someone who chooses to exercise there inalienable rites, the guy did absolutely nothing wrong.

07-04-2012, 06:16 PM	#18
gunnails All League Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 4,519	That didn't take long. Apologies, but I am going to quote Wiki on this which I believe to be accurate. -------------------------------------------------------------------- In the United States, a Terry stop is a brief detention of a person by police[1] on reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminal activity but short of probable cause to arrest. The name derives from Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968),[2] in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that police may briefly detain a person who they reasonably suspect is involved in criminal activity;[3] the Court also held that police may do a limited search of the suspect’s outer garments for weapons if they have a reasonable and articulable suspicion that the person detained may be “armed and dangerous”.[4] When a search for weapons is authorized, the procedure is known as a “stop and frisk”. ================================================== = The guy was never detained, he repeatedly asks if he was being detained and if so why. As I understand the Terry stop only comes into play for citizens being detained. So I suggest that you CR are wrong and not the guy in the video. Please correct me where I am wrong, this is after all kinda of a important point in this discussion and I wish to know the truth.