Honest Question is Flacco that much better than Sanchez?? - Page 2 - Jets Insider.com Forums

John_0515 · 07-04-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinstar

For 1 yr,Sam Bradford put the Rams on his back.Maybe he's no good,but his fruit says different and shows his potential.Sanchez,Flacco and Freeman doesn't have that fruit.

Except at the end of the game, where Sanchez has 11 come back victories in 3 years.

Accidents, all of them.

Tinstar · 07-04-2012, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by John_0515

Except at the end of the game, where Sanchez has 11 come back victories in 3 years.

Accidents, all of them.

I had the conversation over and over when Vinny Testaverde was the QB of the Jets.I won't do it again.

Untouchable · 07-04-2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

Come on you strongly dislike Sanchez at best. But why is he better than Sanchez? Why?

I believe if the Jets had the Raven's defense in those AFC games the Jets would have gone to the SB both times so how come Flacco is as you put it "Absoultely" better than Sanchez!!!

I don't dislike Sanchez, I just see him for what he is at this point. A mediocre, turnover prone QB. How the hell is that even debatable? Until he proves otherwise, that's exactly what he is.

Why is Flacco better than Sanchez? Gee, I dunno. Better pocket presence, doesn't get shook easily, better decision maker, and has one of the strongest arms in the game. That might have something to do with it.

Untouchable · 07-04-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohegangreen

Flacco was about the same as Sanchez after his third season

In his 3rd season, Flacco threw 25 TD's vs only 10 INT's and completed almost 63% of his passes.

How is that comparable to Mark's 3rd year?

Mohegangreen · 07-04-2012, 02:58 PM

I think Mark's numbers would have been about the same without the injury to Mangold and better line play in general, not to mention he lost Braylon who was was replaced by slowass Plax,

Untouchable · 07-04-2012, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohegangreen

I think Mark's numbers would have been about the same without the injury to Mangold and better line play in general, not to mention he lost Braylon who was was replaced by slowass Plax,

You're making assumptions. We have to go by what actually happened on the field.

Mohegangreen · 07-04-2012, 03:00 PM

And he lost Cotch, also, thats alot for a third year qb to deal with

Mohegangreen · 07-04-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

You're making assumptions. We have to go by what actually happened on the field.

Didn't he throw 26 tds? Flacco is and was in a much more stable situation, thats my point, and I am going by what actually happened on the field, Sanchez took a beating last year behind a weak offensive line that could not open up holes for a running game, either, Flacco threw up his numbers behind a great running attack and better protection, do you get it?

Untouchable · 07-04-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohegangreen

Didn't he throw 26 tds? Flacco is and was in a much more stable situation, thats my point, and I am going by what actually happened on the field, Sanchez took a beating last year behind a weak offensive line that could open up holes for a running game, either, Flacco threw up his numbers behind a great running attack and better protection, do you get it?

Yeah, he threw for 26 TD's.

He also turned the ball over 26 times. The most of any player in the AFC and the 2nd most of any player in the NFL. Do you get it?

Apache 51 · 07-04-2012, 03:12 PM

I thought that was all just explained?

Mohegangreen · 07-04-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Yeah, he threw for 26 TD's.

He also turned the ball over 26 times. The most of any player in the AFC and the 2nd most of any player in the NFL. Do you get it?

I think your brain is untouchable, bro

Mohegangreen · 07-04-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Apache 51

I thought that was all just explained?

Some of these guys are out there

Untouchable · 07-04-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohegangreen

I think your brain is untouchable, bro

No, I just call it like I see it.

Living in VA, I see a ton of Baltimore games. Flacco isn't in elite territory but he is definitely above Sanchez at this point.

The only thing that Sanchez apologists have to hang their hats on is his playoff record, that's it.

Fact: Sanchez is currently one of the most turnover prone QB's in the league

Fact: Sanchez is currently one of the most inaccurate QB's in the league

Fact: Sanchez is currently one of the most inconsistent QB's in the league

Could this change? Sure it could, and every Jets fan out there hopes that it does. But as it stands right now, that's the way it is.

Demosthenes9 · 07-04-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

No, I just call it like I see it.

Living in VA, I see a ton of Baltimore games. Flacco isn't in elite territory but he is definitely above Sanchez at this point.

The only thing that Sanchez apologists have to hang their hats on is his playoff record, that's it.

Fact: Sanchez is currently one of the most turnover prone QB's in the league

Fact: Sanchez is currently one of the most inaccurate QB's in the league

Fact: Sanchez is currently one of the most inconsistent QB's in the league

Could this change? Sure it could, and every Jets fan out there hopes that it does. But as it stands right now, that's the way it is.

Simple question. If you put Sanchez on the Ravens, do you think he'd do as well as Flacco ? I do.

Mohegangreen · 07-04-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

No, I just call it like I see it.

Living in VA, I see a ton of Baltimore games. Flacco isn't in elite territory but he is definitely above Sanchez at this point.

The only thing that Sanchez apologists have to hang their hats on is his playoff record, that's it.

Fact: Sanchez is currently one of the most turnover prone QB's in the league

Fact: Sanchez is currently one of the most inaccurate QB's in the league

Fact: Sanchez is currently one of the most inconsistent QB's in the league

Could this change? Sure it could, and every Jets fan out there hopes that it does. But as it stands right now, that's the way it is.

First off, I get it, you're not impressed by Sanchez, thats fine.

Secondly, I never said Mark was better than Joe, I said Joe is better right now but Mark, at this stage in his career is about the same as Joe was, thats all. My opinion, you don't agree thats fine, I don't care if you do, I gave you my reasoning and you ignored it. Try this one: How many 4th quarter comebacks do each have after their first 3 seasons? I bet its about the same or Mark has more. Then get back to me...

Untouchable · 07-04-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Simple question. If you put Sanchez on the Ravens, do you think he'd do as well as Flacco ? I do.

Maybe, who really cares? That's all hypothetical.

Sanchez plays for the Jets and Flacco plays for the Ravens.

And AT THIS POINT, Flacco is the better QB.

Notice how I said "at this point". This could change. Sanchez could work wonders in Sparano's system for all I know and leap ahead of Flacco.

Mohegangreen · 07-04-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Simple question. If you put Sanchez on the Ravens, do you think he'd do as well as Flacco ? I do.

Absolutely

Charlie Brown · 07-04-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Demosthenes9

Simple question. If you put Sanchez on the Ravens, do you think he'd do as well as Flacco ? I do.

This was one of my orginal points and the fact that people in the NFL are calling Flacco "elite". IMO if you think that the players in the NFL are close to being right about Flacco then no way can you say Sanchez sucks.....

Mohegangreen · 07-04-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Maybe, who really cares? That's all hypothetical.

Sanchez plays for the Jets and Flacco plays for the Ravens.

And AT THIS POINT, Flacco is the better QB.

Notice how I said "at this point". This could change. Sanchez could work wonders in Sparano's system for all I know and leap ahead of Flacco.

Dude, we were talking about after their firs three seasons, Are you reading? I said Flacco IS better right now... Read my posts before you waste my time with a pointless debate

Untouchable · 07-04-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mohegangreen

Dude, we were talking about after their firs three seasons, Are you reading? I said Flacco IS better right now... Read my posts before you waste my time with a pointless debate

I wasn't even quoting you.

07-04-2012, 02:58 PM	#25
Mohegangreen liked Fat Rex Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,308	I think Mark's numbers would have been about the same without the injury to Mangold and better line play in general, not to mention he lost Braylon who was was replaced by slowass Plax,

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Mohegangreen liked Fat Rex Veteran Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,308	And he lost Cotch, also, thats alot for a third year qb to deal with

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Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,624	I thought that was all just explained?