Should Knicks match a backloaded deal for Lin? - Jets Insider.com Forums

Austin · 07-05-2012, 08:54 AM

Nash to Lakers (made too much sense)

Kidd to resign with Mavericks.

Rockets to offer Lin backloaded deal...

Things haven't gone great for the Knicks so far in FA... So answer this -- should the Knicks match a backloaded offer for Jeremy Lin? Apparently the Rockets are on the verge of offering a 4 year 30 million dollar deal that starts at roughly 5 mil a year the first two years but ends at 10 million a year the last two.

I'd be extremely hesitant to commit that much money in such crucial cap years to a guy like Lin... But I'm worried the Knicks front office will be desperate and will make the move so as not to crap out completely in FA...

What do people think?

DDNYjets · 07-05-2012, 09:05 AM

They can have him for that.

Lin has to prove he can use his left hand and not turn the ball over. Not to mention his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

But I am only taking into account his "on the court" value. Obviously he has a value in terms of the business side of things.

DDNYjets · 07-05-2012, 09:07 AM

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...oaded-contract

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The Houston Chronicle is reporting that the Rockets launched their all-out press to land guard Jeremy Lin by making a contract offer to last season's breakout star on Wednesday night.

A report in The New York Post, citing a league source, said the Rockets were planning to offer Lin a backloaded deal worth roughly $30 million. According to the same source, the deal would pay Lin $5 million in the first season, $5.2 million in the second, and then would increase to as much as $10 million per year in the third and fourth seasons.

"Jeremy Lin's an excellent player," Rockets general manager Daryl Morey told The Post. "We got to know him firsthand when he was with the Rockets early this season. We think he'd make a fantastic addition to our team."

While both Lin and the Knicks are hoping for a reunion, sources have told ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard that if any clubs offer Lin a backloaded contract that pays him an eight-figure salary in the third and fourth years, the Knicks could be hesitant to match the offer.

With the new collective bargaining agreement employing a more punitive luxury tax beginning in the 2013-14 season, the Knicks are concerned about the financial ramifications of such a deal.

The Knicks can offer Lin a four-year deal worth $24.5 million. In 35 games with the Knicks last season, Lin averaged 14.6 points and 6.2 assists per game.

Austin · 07-05-2012, 09:14 AM

The Amare deal is going to kill us.

cr726 · 07-05-2012, 09:53 AM

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The Amare deal is going to kill us.

Management and ownership are horrific.

Austin · 07-05-2012, 10:00 AM

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Management and ownership are horrific.

So you're pretty much the Tx of basketball threads?

simijet · 07-05-2012, 10:50 AM

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So you're pretty much the Tx of basketball threads?

Are management and ownership not horrific?

Yankeejet22 · 07-05-2012, 11:13 AM

I say yes. Match it.

pretty of douchy of Lin and his reps, but hey, business is business.

Austin · 07-05-2012, 11:20 AM

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Are management and ownership not horrific?

Not the point -- he just trolls anything Knicks related.

But yes, ownership is definitley horrific. Dolan is a buffoon and one of the worst owners in sports.

Management has been horrific in the past, but with the current regime it hasn't been written yet.

SMC · 07-05-2012, 12:16 PM

They'll match, but they might not have to.

According to Zwerlig of ESPN, Lin hasn't signed offersheet from Houston because he wants to re-sign with Knicks, thus, not needing to sign a backloaded deal.

SMC · 07-05-2012, 12:17 PM

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Management and ownership are horrific.

Management and ownership has been horrific.

Grunwald, however, is a good GM and personnel man.

21st Amendment · 07-05-2012, 01:05 PM

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I say yes. Match it.

pretty of douchy of Lin and his reps, but hey, business is business.

How the heck is it douchy? The young man hasn't made any real money yet, here's his opportunity.

cr726 · 07-05-2012, 02:59 PM

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So you're pretty much the Tx of basketball threads?

Great argument.

cr726 · 07-05-2012, 03:00 PM

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How the heck is it douchy? The young man hasn't made any real money yet, here's his opportunity.

He needs to get paid, look at all the money he brought in just on merchandise alone.

Austin · 07-05-2012, 03:16 PM

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Great argument.

What argument is needed? You're a scumbag who's trolling the thread.

cr726 · 07-05-2012, 03:26 PM

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What argument is needed? You're a scumbag who's trolling the thread.

The Knicks now hold the record for most consecutive playoff losses and you are mad at me? Comical.

Porgyman · 07-05-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DDNYjets

They can have him for that.

Lin has to prove he can use his left hand and not turn the ball over. Not to mention his defense leaves a lot to be desired.

But I am only taking into account his "on the court" value. Obviously he has a value in terms of the business side of things.

+1. I'm far from convinced that Lin will be a long term answer for the Knicks. There were games last year (think Miami and NJ) where he was exposed. The problem is the Knicks are running out of options. With Kidd going back to Dallas, Crawford to the Clippers...all that is left is the return of Raymond Felton. The same guy that was badly out of shape last year in Portland.

So, the Knicks may be forced to match any offer.

DDNYjets · 07-05-2012, 04:57 PM

No matter what happens with Lin, the Knicks and almost every other team in the EC are not going to surpass the Heat any time soon.

The Nets may have a chance if they can land Howard. The Bulls would be the other team but that is assuming Rose's knee holds up.

The idea is to try to win a championship. The Knicks are now a legitimate playoff team but I have a hard time seeing them winning anything more one or two playoff rounds. And that is assuming they are not going to be a 6,7 or 8 seed in which case they will likely lose in the first round.

SMC · 07-05-2012, 08:45 PM

Lin set to sign offer sheet of 4 yrs $28.8 mil ($5m, $5.2m, $9.3m, $9.3m team option), which is eminently doable. Knicks will certainly match.

Dirtstar · 07-05-2012, 09:13 PM

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Lin set to sign offer sheet of 4 yrs $28.8 mil ($5m, $5.2m, $9.3m, $9.3m team option), which is eminently doable. Knicks will certainly match.

Knicks will 100% match that.

if Lin develops, and he will have one hell of a mentor in J-Kidd, it's a bargain deal.

if he doesn't, the Knicks can decline the 4th year team option and rebuild from scratch in 2015, which is the same year the contracts for Stat, Melo, Chandler and Kidd all expire.

people are trying to make a big deal out of the Knicks having to pay the luxury tax, and they forget that during the Isiah Era, the Knicks payroll was always around $100 million and once got up near $130 M.

Dolan doesn't give a **** about paying the tax as long as the MSG seats are full and Lin jerseys are flying off the shelves.

07-05-2012, 08:54 AM	#1
Austin WINNING All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper East Side Posts: 6,189	Should Knicks match a backloaded deal for Lin? Nash to Lakers (made too much sense) Kidd to resign with Mavericks. Rockets to offer Lin backloaded deal... Things haven't gone great for the Knicks so far in FA... So answer this -- should the Knicks match a backloaded offer for Jeremy Lin? Apparently the Rockets are on the verge of offering a 4 year 30 million dollar deal that starts at roughly 5 mil a year the first two years but ends at 10 million a year the last two. I'd be extremely hesitant to commit that much money in such crucial cap years to a guy like Lin... But I'm worried the Knicks front office will be desperate and will make the move so as not to crap out completely in FA... What do people think?

07-05-2012, 09:05 AM	#2
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,306	They can have him for that. Lin has to prove he can use his left hand and not turn the ball over. Not to mention his defense leaves a lot to be desired. But I am only taking into account his "on the court" value. Obviously he has a value in terms of the business side of things. Last edited by DDNYjets; 07-05-2012 at 09:08 AM.

07-05-2012, 08:45 PM	#19
SMC Day-to-day Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 22,032	Lin set to sign offer sheet of 4 yrs $28.8 mil ($5m, $5.2m, $9.3m, $9.3m team option), which is eminently doable. Knicks will certainly match. Last edited by SMC; 07-05-2012 at 08:58 PM.

07-05-2012, 09:14 AM	#4
Austin WINNING All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Upper East Side Posts: 6,189	The Amare deal is going to kill us.

07-05-2012, 11:13 AM	#8
Yankeejet22 You didn't show them, Mark :( Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: northern jersey Posts: 2,464	I say yes. Match it. pretty of douchy of Lin and his reps, but hey, business is business.

07-05-2012, 12:16 PM	#10
SMC Day-to-day Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 22,032	They'll match, but they might not have to. According to Zwerlig of ESPN, Lin hasn't signed offersheet from Houston because he wants to re-sign with Knicks, thus, not needing to sign a backloaded deal.

07-05-2012, 04:57 PM	#18
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,306	No matter what happens with Lin, the Knicks and almost every other team in the EC are not going to surpass the Heat any time soon. The Nets may have a chance if they can land Howard. The Bulls would be the other team but that is assuming Rose's knee holds up. The idea is to try to win a championship. The Knicks are now a legitimate playoff team but I have a hard time seeing them winning anything more one or two playoff rounds. And that is assuming they are not going to be a 6,7 or 8 seed in which case they will likely lose in the first round.