How do Jet fans see Joe Mcknight replacing L tomlinson

[Mark TJ Sanchez]

I don't think you guys realize that kids drafted in 2010 have just had their first full offseason. Sure McKnight was working out last year but no way was he doing the best thing he could in the offseason. These mini camps can mean a lot to players especially ones coming off a rookie year. I expect him to had a good year. He has the potential, so there's no reason to believe that he can't. The question is will he use that potential. And as Jet fans we should believe our players will live up to that potential. So until he proves me wrong, I will believe he will have a good year.

[JStokes]

Originally Posted by Mainejet

He also lacks a work ethic and has shown that he's in it only to get paid.

Again with the bullsh*t.

After he vomitted, he has shown nothing but a fantastic work ethic.

Every offseason, the guy brings it. Worked out with LT the whole summer after his rookie year, has been to every Jets West, now Jets East, the guy had a f-up coming into his rookie season-- but to question his work ethic since smacks of something other than intelligence or objectiveness.

Something else going on here with the Porn-Stache sportin Bambi Killer.

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[BamaJets]

Look, McKnight is young (like a lot of Jets). Just because you are athletic doesn't mean you pick up the game on Day 1. How many skill guys really make an impact in their first 2 years? There are a few, but really, it's not many.

McKnight, Connor, Powell, etc., we don't know what they are capable of. You can't write a guy off because he wasn't an All Pro in his first two seasons. I think McKnight can be a great 3rd down back. I know we want results now, but it does take time.

A lot of people are down on Connor ... well, he's been a starter for 1 year. And I think fullback is a more thinking position than most people believe. T-Rich didn't have all his athletic ability and strength when he was 36-37, but he knew the game. knew the right way to block defenders without killing yourself, picking up the nuances of the game, etc. Connor is learning now. give him a bit, it'll click.

[NY2FLDWC85]

Originally Posted by JStokes

Again with the bullsh*t.

After he vomitted, he has shown nothing but a fantastic work ethic.

Every offseason, the guy brings it. Worked out with LT the whole summer after his rookie year, has been to every Jets West, now Jets East, the guy had a f-up coming into his rookie season-- but to question his work ethic since smacks of something other than intelligence or objectiveness.

Something else going on here with the Porn-Stache sportin Bambi Killer.

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[sg3]

Its a post from Mainepat....stokes

Thus not worth further discussion

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[JStokes]

Originally Posted by sg3

Its a post from Mainepat....stokes

Thus not worth further discussion

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Bambi-Killer has something against the likes of McKnight and Sanchez.

Somebody needs to check his hee-haw pickup truck below his gun rack to see if there's a confederate flag proudly flying there.

Because the hate Porn-Stache has for these two players otherwise makes no sense.

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[EM31]

Originally Posted by JStokes

Bambi-Killer has something against the likes of McKnight and Sanchez.

Somebody needs to check his hee-haw pickup truck below his gun rack to see if there's a confederate flag proudly flying there.

Because the hate Porn-Stache has for these two players otherwise makes no sense.

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Keeping it classy right here.

[GuidoYaztremski]

Originally Posted by JStokes

Bambi-Killer has something against the likes of McKnight and Sanchez.

Somebody needs to check his hee-haw pickup truck below his gun rack to see if there's a confederate flag proudly flying there.

Because the hate Porn-Stache has for these two players otherwise makes no sense.

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Debate with the guy all you want. I think he's a disagreeable sort most times myself. But I'd expect you to be above the level of this constant name calling, and not become simpatico with sg3. Besides, it's not as if one couldn't find an insult for a 5'3" lawyer who chews his fingernails. Amirite? Chill, your better than this.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by Rexipus Rex

Good thread. You're probably the best outsider poster on the site because while I don't always see eye to eye with you, you come here with the intention of spurring football talk. Just figured I'd say that.

Anyway, I'm curious to see what McKnight is capable of this year. In terms of route running and receiving skills, I think he can be as good as LT was last year.

My biggest concern, however, not only with him but with the whole backfield is: Who the hell can pass block here? Greene and McKnight are underwhelming at best in this category. Unlike natural running skills, which you either have or you don't have right off the bat in the NFL, pass protection and ball security are things a running back can learn and develop. It will be critical to see if either of those two guys have improved, especially McKnight. I don't care what weapons you have...if you have a swinging gate at RT and backs that cannot block, you're gonna get destroyed in the passing game.

If McKnight can earn the coaches' trust to block, I can see him getting about 40 catches this year. I'd guess he'd run the ball about 5-6 times a game too. I could see something like 650-700 total yards this season with 2 or 3 TDs

Good post, and +1 on Raider90210

I've given him **** in the past, he's an unbelievable homer, but he's no troll!

More Raider homers, less Pats fan trolls.

McKnight has all the ability to be an outstanding 3rd down RB and a back-up, pass protection is the biggest factor. I think McKnight is ready for a bigger role, I can easily see him making the jump and being a more mature player.

[Ray Ray19]

Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski

Debate with the guy all you want. I think he's a disagreeable sort most times myself. But I'd expect you to be above the level of this constant name calling, and not become simpatico with sg3. Besides, it's not as if one couldn't find an insult for a 5'3" lawyer who chews his fingernails. Amirite? Chill, your better than this.

And why are YOU lecturing anybody here on how not to be a douchebag?

[Mainejet]

Originally Posted by JStokes

Again with the bullsh*t.

After he vomitted, he has shown nothing but a fantastic work ethic.

Every offseason, the guy brings it. Worked out with LT the whole summer after his rookie year, has been to every Jets West, now Jets East, the guy had a f-up coming into his rookie season-- but to question his work ethic since smacks of something other than intelligence or objectiveness.

Something else going on here with the Porn-Stache sportin Bambi Killer.

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What about failing his conditioning test at TC????

I guess you'll have to edit your post and include that after he vomitted, after he failed his conditioning test, after he got over his fumblitis, he's been nothing but a future hall of famer?

Oh wait, lets not forget we've now found he's in fact BRITTLE.

You're a joke. The guy is a complete bum and you are willing to stroke him until your dying day. Hopefully, that day is coming soon.

[EM31]

Joe McKnight has been very nondescript as a running back for the Jets. Underwhelming is a generous way to put it. Much like his career at USC. Anyone who is saying differently must be watching different games.

The book is not quite closed on him yet because he does have physical gifts, but it is closing pretty fast. He gets this year to show his stuff with the jets and next year perhaps with someone else. Maybe. The chances are better then even IMO that he is out of football altogether in 2-3 years.

Full disclosure. I have no Confederate flags.

[NY2FLDWC85]

Originally Posted by EM31

Joe McKnight has been very nondescript as a running back for the Jets. Underwhelming is a generous way to put it. Much like his career at USC. Anyone who is saying differently must be watching different games.

The book is not quite closed on him yet because he does have physical gifts, but it is closing pretty fast. He gets this year to show his stuff with the jets and next year perhaps with someone else. Maybe. The chances are better then even IMO that he is out of football altogether in 2-3 years.

Full disclosure. I have no Confederate flags.

What are you talking about? He's never even had a chance as a feature and/or backup RB. He's been behind both Shonn Greene and L.T on the depth charts.

How can you sit here and state that McKnight has been "underwhelming" and/or "nondescript" as a running back, when, he's never even had a chance to show his offensive worth/value as an HB.

As a rookie during the 2010 season, he only rushed the football 39 times, but guess what? He put up up 189 rushing yards, which just so happens to make for an average of 4.8 yards per carry. Yeah, right, he's been really "underwhelming" and/or "nondescript".

Joe McKnight was only given one chance as a rookie (because Greene and L.T were ahead of McKnight on the depth charts) and guess what? McKnight, as a running back, made the most of his first and only chance as a running back (thus far). 32 of his 39 carries came against the Bills during week 17. He only rushed the football 32 times for 158 rushing yards along with an average of 4.9 yards per carry. He also put up two receptions for 15 receiving yards against Buffalo.

Last but not least, he only rushed the football 43 times last season. Once again, behind Greene and a future HOF back in Tomlinson. He only rushed for 134 yards due to an average of only 3.1 yards per carry, but lets stop acting like Joe McKnight was given a chance to succeed as a back last season, because when in all actuality... He wasn't. The offensive line was a disaster, which is why Tomlinson could only average 3.7 yards per carry and as a team? We ranked 30th in average yards per rushing attempt. Let's not blame this on Joe McKnight, especially considering the fact that McKnight only accounted for 43 out of 443 offensive rushing attempts.

McKnight has only been given one chance as an actual running back over the past two years. That chance came during week 17 against the Buffalo Bills, and he ended up rushing for 189 yards off of 32 rushing attempts (an average of 4.9 yards per carry).

On a side note, where is all of this "McKnight can't hold on to the football" garbage coming from? Are you all talking about rookie and 2nd year mistakes during the preseason? Because the last time I've checked, he's rushed the football 82 times and has put up 16 receptions (98 touches) with zero regular season fumbles. Now, on special teams, I believe he's fumbled two times (1 punt and 1 kick off). But, lets not to make this kid out to be a fumbling machine (in regards to a backup RB) when he's never fumbled a hand-off to date.

[NY2FLDWC85]

Originally Posted by Mainejet

You're a joke. The guy is a complete bum

You're the only joke around here. Stick to talking about fishing and hunting; discussing football isn't your cup of tea.

Yea, right, he's a "bum" who happened to lead the entire NFL in average yards per kick return.

1,073 return yards off only 34 kick returns; an average of 31.5 yards per return to go along with a 107 yard kickoff return (for a TD). Kid gave our offense great field position time and time again.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...sPerKickReturn

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...turnTouchdowns

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...ickReturnYards

He's actually an outstanding talent; you're just too blind/negative/unhappy to see it.

Since we've never had an actual chance to see him as a running back (outside of the Buffalo game) lets go back to only 2009 during his USC days. Lets take a look at what our coaching staff and GM seen, which called for the drafting of Joe McKnight. Kid is a special talent.

You create running lanes/holes for McKnight, and he's exploding through them. Once McKnight breaks off into the open field? Good luck, because you're not stopping him.

[jeT.MAC]

PLEASE, PLEASE , PLEASE HOLD ONTO DA BALLLL JMAC!!!! Thats all im askin DUDE!! JMAC should b someting spec. after gain N 15 lbs.. GREENE & MCKNIGHT should b exciting. Dont sleep on #42 RB T. Ganaway too..

Depth

GREENE
JMAC
GANAWAY

[EM31]

Originally Posted by NY2FLDWC85

What are you talking about? He's never even had a chance as a feature and/or backup RB. He's been behind both Shonn Greene and L.T on the depth charts.

How can you sit here and state that McKnight has been "underwhelming" and/or "nondescript" as a running back, when, he's never even had a chance to show his offensive worth/value as an HB.

As a rookie during the 2010 season, he only rushed the football 39 times, but guess what? He put up up 189 rushing yards, which just so happens to make for an average of 4.8 yards per carry. Yeah, right, he's been really "underwhelming" and/or "nondescript".

Joe McKnight was only given one chance as a rookie (because Greene and L.T were ahead of McKnight on the depth charts) and guess what? McKnight, as a running back, made the most of his first and only chance as a running back (thus far). 32 of his 39 carries came against the Bills during week 17. He only rushed the football 32 times for 158 rushing yards along with an average of 4.9 yards per carry. He also put up two receptions for 15 receiving yards against Buffalo.

Last but not least, he only rushed the football 43 times last season. Once again, behind Greene and a future HOF back in Tomlinson. He only rushed for 134 yards due to an average of only 3.1 yards per carry, but lets stop acting like Joe McKnight was given a chance to succeed as a back last season, because when in all actuality... He wasn't. The offensive line was a disaster, which is why Tomlinson could only average 3.7 yards per carry and as a team? We ranked 30th in average yards per rushing attempt. Let's not blame this on Joe McKnight, especially considering the fact that McKnight only accounted for 43 out of 443 offensive rushing attempts.

McKnight has only been given one chance as an actual running back over the past two years. That chance came during week 17 against the Buffalo Bills, and he ended up rushing for 189 yards off of 32 rushing attempts (an average of 4.9 yards per carry).

On a side note, where is all of this "McKnight can't hold on to the football" garbage coming from? Are you all talking about rookie and 2nd year mistakes during the preseason? Because the last time I've checked, he's rushed the football 82 times and has put up 16 receptions (98 touches) with zero regular season fumbles. Now, on special teams, I believe he's fumbled two times (1 punt and 1 kick off). But, lets not to make this kid out to be a fumbling machine (in regards to a backup RB) when he's never fumbled a hand-off to date.

Running backs get playing time by forcing the coaches to put them in there. He got only 43 carries last because that is all his play on the field warranted. He ran the ball like a limp noodle. LT got more time because when he was in there he was noticeably better than anyone else we put in there (i.e Joe McKnight)

You are confusing who has been talking about fumbles and who has not.

McKnight hasn't been "great" since high school. Everything we have heard about him since high school plus what we have seen with our own eyes in the first two years is the same thing. Six straight years of "great physical talent. Does not live up to potential".

[NY's stepchild]

Originally Posted by EM31

Running backs get playing time by forcing the coaches to put them in there. He got only 43 carries last because that is all his play on the field warranted. He ran the ball like a limp noodle. LT got more time because when he was in there he was noticeably better than anyone else we put in there (i.e Joe McKnight)

You are confusing who has been talking about fumbles and who has not.

McKnight hasn't been "great" since high school. Everything we have heard about him since high school plus what we have seen with our own eyes in the first two years is the same thing. Six straight years of "great physical talent. Does not live up to potential".

LT was in there because he could pick up a blitz. No one could. How well you can run is secondary to that. You can't get on the field on third down if you can't read your assignment. Hopefully someone figures it out this year.

[loluchka80]

Originally Posted by Untouchable

It's very homerish.

Joe McKnight will be a better 3rd down back than LT?

What is this based on exactly?

So far, McKnight has proven to be nothing more than an explosive kick returner with a knack for putting the ball on the ground.

He has all but 16 receptions in his career and less than 325 rushing yards with a 3.9 yard average. The kid has been a big underachiever ever since his USC days.

Even at the end of his career, LT still possessed some of the best hands out of the backfield and could hold his own in pass protection. We have no idea what we have in McKnight.

This. also LT just knew how to get open. He was marks safety valve on 3rd downs. I think Mcknight can be explosive, but to just claim he will be a better 3rd down back than LT?

[Sourceworx]

Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski

Debate with the guy all you want. I think he's a disagreeable sort most times myself. But I'd expect you to be above the level of this constant name calling, and not become simpatico with sg3. Besides, it's not as if one couldn't find an insult for a 5'3" lawyer who chews his fingernails. Amirite? Chill, your better than this.

So let me get this straight:

One of the biggest jerkoffs on this site is telling another poster to refrain from acting like a jerkoff?

Oh the ironing.

[GuidoYaztremski]

Originally Posted by Braumeister

So let me get this straight:

One of the biggest jerkoffs on this site is telling another poster to refrain from acting like a jerkoff?

Oh the ironing.

Ironing indeed.