$3.5 Billion was spent on corporate lobbying in 2010

[Jetdawgg]

What did it buy? The return on investment of corporate lobbying [Graphic]





http://refreshingnews99.blogspot.in/...corporate.html

[palmetto defender]

The above illustrations are beyond ignorant and idiotic.
These are made available for the unwashed masses - like OWS. Stupids who are essentaily losers and anarchists.
I am surprised a veteran Marine would buy in.

The entire ROI is based on a lobby? Even you can't be that gullible.
Perhaps a small incremental part but the whole return?

[Trades]

Originally Posted by palmetto defender

The above illustrations are beyond ignorant and idiotic.
These are made available for the unwashed masses - like OWS. Stupids who are essentaily losers and anarchists.
I am surprised a veteran Marine would buy in.

The entire ROI is based on a lobby? Even you can't be that gullible.
Perhaps a small incremental part but the whole return?

I can see the one showing a link between subsidies and the oil industry even though I am sure most of the subsidies were renewals not new money that resulted from lobbying.

As for the pharmas, saying that they are "Lobbying to keep prescription drugs high" is infantile. Much of the pharma lobby is based around patI think they deserve a few years of patent protection.

[quantum]

yay!

Now do union money and "get out the vote" stuff.

[parafly]

Money = Speech = Power

A vicious and rigged cycle that will not change anytime soon under the two wings of the corporate party.

[MnJetFan]

Investments for the corporate/union future.

[Jetdawgg]

Originally Posted by palmetto defender

The above illustrations are beyond ignorant and idiotic.
These are made available for the unwashed masses - like OWS. Stupids who are essentaily losers and anarchists.
I am surprised a veteran Marine would buy in.

The entire ROI is based on a lobby? Even you can't be that gullible.
Perhaps a small incremental part but the whole return?

Well that I guess that means that the billionaires don't buy the gov't......

[quantum]

Originally Posted by Jetdawgg

Well that I guess that means that the billionaires don't buy the gov't......

Like Bloomberg, or like union/mob bosses?

[Jetdawgg]

Originally Posted by quantum

Like Bloomberg, or like union/mob bosses?

Union membership is at a 70 year low right now. Union bribes may affect some local races, but nowhere near the above ROI's. Even if those numbers are off, they are still astonishing

[intelligentjetsfan]

Originally Posted by Jetdawgg

Union membership is at a 70 year low right now. Union bribes may affect some local races, but nowhere near the above ROI's. Even if those numbers are off, they are still astonishing

Union jobs are at some of the lowest levels in generations but you can't tell that to the Fox Zombies. Wall Street needed a scapegoat to take the fall for the economic mess that they had a large hand in creating. So the corporations that own the government use their personal mega phone (the American media) to create the illusion that unions are the real cause of economic distress in 2012.

[palmetto defender]

Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan

Union jobs are at some of the lowest levels in generations but you can't tell that to the Fox Zombies. Wall Street needed a scapegoat to take the fall for the economic mess that they had a large hand in creating. So the corporations that own the government use their personal mega phone (the American media) to create the illusion that unions are the real cause of economic distress in 2012.

As long as Jimmy Hoffa Jr. and Richard Trumka (two of the biggest punk thugs alive) are running unions, they are a problem - both in terms of political contributions AND intimidation of decent people.
I'm not too crazy about the NY teachers union either. pretty corrupt operation.
Right to work, baby. That's the way to go.

[intelligentjetsfan]

Originally Posted by palmetto defender

As long as Jimmy Hoffa Jr. and Richard Trumka (two of the biggest punk thugs alive) are running unions, they are a problem - both in terms of political contributions AND intimidation of decent people.
I'm not too crazy about the NY teachers union either. pretty corrupt operation.
Right to work, baby. That's the way to go.

but lets compare the threat level to our democratic process from Jim Jr. and Trumka to the corporations, some worth in the billions, that game the system to their advantage.

Its not even close. Thanks to a far-right agenda in this country unions are almost obsolete.

[palmetto defender]

Originally Posted by intelligentjetsfan

but lets compare the threat level to our democratic process from Jim Jr. and Trumka to the corporations, some worth in the billions, that game the system to their advantage.

Its not even close. Thanks to a far-right agenda in this country unions are almost obsolete.

Really, Hoffa and Trumka espouse VIOLENCE. Sounds dangerous to me.
Many unions encourage vandalism and physical intimidation and beatings. Let's see, Teamsters. UAW. CWA. Operating Engineers. Aerospace Workers. Electrical Workers Union. Dockworkers. Good track record all. Teachers unions are just corrupt - not violent but they fight for the rights of PERVERTS.
Police and Fire unoins are not violent or threatening.
Corporation execs beat up people, do they? Vandalize cars and homes?
How's the grad rate doing at YOUR FAILING SCHOOL? You are doing what to correct that? sorry, when you start doing your job, then you get taken seriously. Right now, you are just shamming. Collecting pay for going through the motions. No accountability.

[intelligentjetsfan]

Originally Posted by palmetto defender

Really, Hoffa and Trumka espouse VIOLENCE. Sounds dangerous to me.
Many unions encourage vandalism and physical intimidation and beatings. Let's see, Teamsters. UAW. CWA. Operating Engineers. Aerospace Workers. Electrical Workers Union. Dockworkers. Good track record all. Teachers unions are just corrupt - not violent but they fight for the rights of PERVERTS.
Police and Fire unoins are not violent or threatening.
Corporation execs beat up people, do they? Vandalize cars and homes?
How's the grad rate doing at YOUR FAILING SCHOOL? You are doing what to correct that? sorry, when you start doing your job, then you get taken seriously. Right now, you are just shamming. Collecting pay for going through the motions. No accountability.

lol, if you are referring to me personally.

Anyway, you are correct on one account; we rarely hear stories of corporate execs acting with physical intimidation. Instead, they hire thugs to do their dirty work. Or do you really believe only unions apply thug tactics to get their way? You remind me of that quote from The Godfather;

Michael Corleone: My father is no different than any other powerful man, any man who is responsible for other people, like a senator or a president.
Kay Adams: You know how naive you sound?
Michael Corleone: Why?
Kay Adams: Senators and presidents don't have men killed.
Michael Corleone: Oh. Who's being naive, Kay?

[quantum]

Originally Posted by Jetdawgg

Union membership is at a 70 year low right now. Union bribes may affect some local races, but nowhere near the above ROI's. Even if those numbers are off, they are still astonishing

I didn't ask about union membership. I mentioned union mob bosses that make over $300k a year donating MILLIONS of dollars from union members. If membership is down, that even more that the union sheep are shelling out to their corrupt leaders.