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carlito1171 · 07-26-2012, 10:24 AM

MJD is a top 5 RB in this league...but he wants a big long term deal....one which we can't give him...so pass...

DDNYjets · 07-26-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

He's had only 3 years of a heavy workload.

I don't think that's a huge issue.

As long as he's not over-worked (should he be acquired).

I agree. And I think guys like him and Rice do not take as much of a beating as other backs do that get the same work load. They are built well and run very low and are not a big target.

I think he is unique and is a terrific back. But I just don't see how he can be an option for us. We know exactly what kind of contract he is looking for. 5yrs/40million/25guaranteed-ish contract. Not sure how we could afford that.

But he would be an amazing fit in our offense.

TurkJetFan · 07-26-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunnie

Trade Greene and McKnight for this beast ... Then pay him.

pay him with what cap space? Greene and McKnight count for peanuts against the cap. Plus those 2 would hardly get it done.

Jordy · 07-26-2012, 10:42 AM

If this were next off-season where the Jets could cut Pace, Scott, E. Smith etc., MJD would be a definite option cap-wise.

Don't see how it could get done this year.

johnnysd · 07-26-2012, 10:47 AM

No. Just No. Hell no. No trades for aging RBs going into their 3rd contract

Jordy · 07-26-2012, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd

No. Just No. Hell no. No trades for aging RBs going into their 3rd contract

Aging? He just turned 27 in March.

Untouchable · 07-26-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gsulli5861

He has absolutely nothing going for him. He's looking for a 3rd contract and he's at the back end of his career. Jones is good but not special. No interest.

Nothing going for him? Nothing special?

LOL

The guy is arguably the best RB in the league. He's at least Top 3.

I'd make this move in a heartbeat. The guy still has 3 or 4 elite years left in him barring injury.

jetswin · 07-26-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

The guy is arguably the best RB in the league. He's at least Top 3.

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Arian Foster, LeShawn McCoy, Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Darren McFadden, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson, Frank Gore, and Michael Turner say hi.

plus a couple of others I would rather have

Ray Ray19 · 07-26-2012, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jetswin

Arian Foster, LeShawn McCoy, Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Darren McFadden, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson, Frank Gore, and Michael Turner say hi.

plus a couple of others I would rather have

Not to mention the contract the Jets would have to give MJD, just not worth it at this point in his career.

Untouchable · 07-26-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jetswin

Arian Foster, LeShawn McCoy, Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, Darren McFadden, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson, Frank Gore, and Michael Turner say hi.

plus a couple of others I would rather have

Look at the offense MJD plays on.

He had Blaine Gabbert and Luke McCown at QB last year, and he still lead the league in rushing. Hell, he's had sh*t QB play his entire career and has still managed to dominate. There's absolutely no one on that offense worth mentioning besides him.

In contrast, a guy like Foster has one of the best OL's in the league, a Top 10 QB in Matt Schaub, and one of the Top 3 receivers in the league to keep defenses honest.

The only guy I would rank ahead of MJD is a healthy Adrian Peterson.

Dirtstar · 07-26-2012, 12:24 PM

trade Tebow for MJD.

jetswin · 07-26-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Look at the offense MJD plays on.

He had Blaine Gabbert and Luke McCown at QB last year, and he still lead the league in rushing. Hell, he's had sh*t QB play his entire career and has still managed to dominate. There's absolutely no one on that offense worth mentioning besides him.

In contrast, a guy like Foster has one of the best OL's in the league, a Top 10 QB in Matt Schaub, and one of the Top 3 receivers in the league to keep defenses honest.

The only guy I would rank ahead of MJD is a healthy Adrian Peterson.

the only one close to him in carries (if you could call it that with more than 40) is Turner, otherwise he carries the ball 60-80 times more than other top flight backs.

Untouchable · 07-26-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jetswin

the only one close to him in carries (if you could call it that with more than 40) is Turner, otherwise he carries the ball 60-80 times more than other top flight backs.

Of course he carries the ball more.

He's the main staple of the most putrid offense in the league.

jetswin · 07-26-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Of course he carries the ball more.

He's the main staple of the most putrid offense in the league.

ok then if he trips forward for 4 yards he gets 300 yards more than anyone else...aside from what the Jets claim the offense will be, I think we need a couple of backs and some versatility at the position other than a human bowling ball, rapidly approaching no-man's land in age for RB's.

jetswin · 07-26-2012, 12:34 PM

...add, I'd rather see Tebow running with the ball

Jordy · 07-26-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jetswin

ok then if he trips forward for 4 yards he gets 300 yards more than anyone else...aside from what the Jets claim the offense will be, I think we need a couple of backs and some versatility at the position other than a human bowling ball, rapidly approaching no-man's land in age for RB's.

I understand the position that the Jets really don't have the cap space this season for MJD. But to say he's not one of the absolute best RB's in the NFL is crazy talk. He rushed for over 1,600 yards on a crappy team and had a 4.7 ypc. The guy is a beast. I think he's top 3 for sure.

DDNYjets · 07-26-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

I understand the position that the Jets really don't have the cap space this season for MJD. But to say he's not one of the absolute best RB's in the NFL is crazy talk. He rushed for over 1,600 yards on a crappy team and had a 4.7 ypc. The guy is a beast. I think he's top 3 for sure.

+1.

I don't know why the Jags would even let it get to this point. I assume he is their most popular player. He is their entire offense. They have a young QB who they are hoping to develop. You would think they would want to give him a good running game.

patman · 07-26-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

If this were next off-season where the Jets could cut Pace, Scott, E. Smith etc., MJD would be a definite option cap-wise.

Don't see how it could get done this year.

Tell me how the jets can afford a 4 year 28 mil contract for MJD NEXT year.

3 of the 5 olineman are FA (4 of 6 if you count Otah)
Both safeties
3 of the 5 lbs (assuming Pace and Scott are cut)
plus Divito, Shon Greene and Keller, And it will be your last chance to get a deal done with Revis before he hits his FA year.

That is 10 starters and one top of the rotation Dlineman,

McGinley · 07-26-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtstar

trade Tebow for MJD.

Why would Jacksonville trade the best RB for one of the worst RBs?

Jordy · 07-26-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by patman

Tell me how the jets can afford a 4 year 28 mil contract for MJD NEXT year.

3 of the 5 olineman are FA (4 of 6 if you count Otah)
Both safeties
3 of the 5 lbs (assuming Pace and Scott are cut)
plus Divito, Shon Greene and Keller, And it will be your last chance to get a deal done with Revis before he hits his FA year.

That is 10 starters and one top of the rotation Dlineman,

Pace and Scott will account for $16.5M by themselves.

I think this will be Brandon Moore's last season as a Jet.

If the Jets re-sign Slauson, he's not going to break the bank.

If MJD is acquired somehow, Shonn Green is likely gone anyway or he could be re-signed if the numbers are right.

So, between Pace, Scott, Moore and E. Smith alone, that would be about $23M of cap space created.

I think Tannenbaum can figure it out.

07-26-2012, 10:24 AM	#21
carlito1171 The Dawn of the John Idzik Era All League Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,856	MJD is a top 5 RB in this league...but he wants a big long term deal....one which we can't give him...so pass...

07-26-2012, 10:42 AM	#24
Jordy Keeping it real... Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tårnby, Denmark Posts: 23,145	If this were next off-season where the Jets could cut Pace, Scott, E. Smith etc., MJD would be a definite option cap-wise. Don't see how it could get done this year.

07-26-2012, 10:47 AM	#25
johnnysd Founding Member of the Geno Bandwagon Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 2,145	No. Just No. Hell no. No trades for aging RBs going into their 3rd contract

07-26-2012, 12:24 PM	#31
Dirtstar Snubbed a man just to watch him cry. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,792	trade Tebow for MJD.

07-26-2012, 12:34 PM	#35
jetswin stumblin mumblin butt fumblin Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Westchester Co. Posts: 35,465	...add, I'd rather see Tebow running with the ball