Will Eric Smith get Cut?? - Page 3 - Jets Insider.com Forums

Beerfish · 07-31-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bitonti

again, torn knee. He was operated on after the season. It didn't get a ton of press but Eric Smith is way better than he played on xmas eve. He was out there toughing it out.

The real culprit on that play btw was Cro and Kyle Wilson BOTH missing tackles.

A DB with a torn knee who is out there playing is an idiot who is hurting the team horribly. Smith, being a safety, whose job it is to prevent long scores when others screwed up failed so badly on that play it was laughable.

2foolish197 · 07-31-2012, 12:17 PM

...he's making 2 mil this year with no dead cap money if cut...he could be gone...

King Koopa · 07-31-2012, 12:21 PM

Leonhard: Pick against Chargers in the playoffs.....Many other big plays

Dwight Lowery: Pick 6 against Favre and the Vikings

Brodney Pool: 2 picks against the Pats

Abrahm ELam: Multiple strip sacks....one for a TD against the Bills

Eric Smith.......ZILCH

I want my safeties fast or atleast decent speed and acceleration and with playmaking ability.....Even the backups should make plays here and there. This is the NFL

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 07-31-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by King Koopa

Leonhard: Pick against Chargers in the playoffs.....Many other big plays

Dwight Lowery: Pick 6 against Favre and the Vikings

Brodney Pool: 2 picks against the Pats

Abrahm ELam: Multiple strip sacks....one for a TD against the Bills

Eric Smith.......ZILCH

I want my safeties fast or atleast decent speed and acceleration and with playmaking ability.....Even the backups should make plays here and there. This is the NFL

Eric Smith single handedly knocked Wes Welker out of a playoff game...

No, he didn't come off... But he completely disappeared after the hit...

King Koopa · 07-31-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite

Eric Smith single handedly knocked Wes Welker out of a playoff game...

No, he didn't come off... But he completely disappeared after the hit...

I gave him props for that hit in the OP......

2010 playoffs he played well against the Colts and Patriots, but I've NEVER seen him make any big plays in all of his years here on defense

Have you ever just been like, "Wow what a play by Eric Smith!"

I can count a ton of times where it was the opposite....Me being pissed off about his pathetic coverage or speed

NY's stepchild · 07-31-2012, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite

Eric Smith single handedly knocked Wes Welker out of a playoff game...

No, he didn't come off... But he completely disappeared after the hit...

He had a couple nice hits over the years. So if he can put on about 30lbs of muscle, and come back as a LB we may have something. If Allen shows he can pick up the system, and Landry stays healthy, it might not be a bad idea to let him walk. Even if we have to re sign him later, for less money.

WestCoastOffensive · 07-31-2012, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by King Koopa

This.

People that claim that Smith is a "good back up", name me ONE big, game changing play on defense by Eric Smith in all of his years here.

He's absolute garbage at safety......And his special teams play does not make up for a valuable roster spot IMO

Smith put his head down and rocked Welker in that playoff game, when the Pats were struggling. I think Smith knocked his Patriots decal off.

Jordy · 07-31-2012, 01:30 PM

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while...

IndianaJet · 07-31-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by suprjet

Come on bro, you had to be watching the 2010 AFC Divisional playoffs when Smith knocked the decal off Welker's helmet he hit him so hard. Our D shut down the Pats vaunted O without Leonard. This is a silly thread

This right here. Smith had a great game that day. Nevertheless, if never starts another game for us I'd be happy.

King Koopa · 07-31-2012, 01:50 PM

OK guys, the big hit on Welker.....agreed, nice play by Smith

He was playing at an unreal level in those playoffs, which unfortuantely, is not the real Eric Smith we have seen the rest of his time as a Jet.

He can hit though, we all know that.....It's his complete inability to guard ANYONE in coverage that makes him such a liability overall......Teams were picking on him left and right last season on 3rd downs....it was embarressing

Yes you can stack him in the box, but why should we have to settle for a guy that is just so bad in crucial areas of what makes a succesful safety.....He is not making big plays left and right in the box either....he's just merely a "sure tackler" that will make a few big hits a year (sometimes illegal or borderline dirty).

Call me crazy, but I'd rather see what a young guy like Allen or Bush could do back there if it gets down to it. There will still be cuts and other vets that become available as well later on before the season starts. I really can't imagine EVER thinking to myself, "damn man, we really miss Eric Smith back there!", no matter who ends up playing safety.....Can you?

Kentucky Jet · 07-31-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt39

We always find a KR...and if Powell beats out McKnight...its a possibility imo...

RUMOR of the day: Its really sickening!

Dreamers · 07-31-2012, 02:00 PM

Unless we do give Revis a raise I think we keep him for now. I am actually shocked how much cap space we still have. I could see us holding on to him as a 5th BU or trade bate. I think he has some value to this team. With so many teams in need of a S right now he may be worth keeping. The man can block in ST. Maybe he could do it at TE as well?

WestCoastOffensive · 07-31-2012, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordy

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while...

Fine; sit him. Like I care.

Ruby2 · 07-31-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt39

Nah, doubt it.

My surprise cut would be McKnight

Have you been following camp at all?

McKnight has been one of the best performers.

Oh yeah, he throw up once two years ago so he sucks, lolz

Ruby2 · 07-31-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bitonti

everyone bashes the dude but he played last year with a torn meniscus (and was the team's leading tackler) after losing Jim Leonard they had to play Smith. but really he should have never been put in that situation. This year as a 3rd safety and special teams ace, he's fine.

Classic Bitonti.

Welcome back.

Matt39 · 07-31-2012, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruby2

Have you been following camp at all?

McKnight has been one of the best performers.

Oh yeah, he throw up once two years ago so he sucks, lolz

I have been following. The 3rd down back that apparently McKnight locked up is now up for grabs. McKnight can't block either.

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The Jets still haven’t decided between Joe McKnight and Bilal Powell for the third-down back job.

“That job’s open right now,” Lynn said. “Bilal has done more (blocking in the past). I’m not saying that he’s better than Joe. That’s why we have camp.

I'd guess he's on the bubble if they feel they can have someone else be the KR.

LadainianIMnotDONE · 07-31-2012, 06:19 PM

I don't like Smith's game. I think he's straight when he's in a rover position and plays as the 4th linebacker like he did more in the playoff's 2 years ago against NE and Indy. I don't mind him there but when he's in the backline defending he's so bad and he can't cover ANY TE in this league and I do mean ANY. He reads the slants extremely well and all the crossing routes but if you break and out on him or run a flag upfield he's toast. He can't handle the deep post at all either but anything in front of 12 yards he reads pretty well and he's steady against the run. Smith to me is a guy you play at that Rover position and use him to spare a starter for a play or 2. He can't play every down cause he's such a liabilty to too many routes & he bites on double moves way too often & he doesn't break up enough plays. You don't see near INT's from him. He'll lay someone out but its extremely rare that he actually gets his hands on the ball.

With all this being said ... I can't stand the guy but Rex isn't cutting him. There's too many health questions with Landry and he knows Rex's system too well. One of the rookies will go before Smith and lets not forget he plays special teams for Westy and Westy loves him. Usually that 4th safety Westy will make the call cause he'll play special teams more and we all know that Smith will be picked. You can bet the house on Smith NOT getting cut just cause he knows the system so well and he'll make some playcalls based on what he see's but the defense is being touched up this year where the linebackers are making more calls and not the safety's. In that regard I see Smith playing less because of that but he won't get cut. If we're lucky he only plays 8-10 snaps a game. That's what I'm hoping ...

SizzleBear287 · 07-31-2012, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamers

With so many teams in need of a S right now he may be worth keeping.

Then, why has nobody signed Jim Leonhard yet??

King Koopa · 07-31-2012, 06:48 PM

He knows the defense so well that he inexplicitly slants inside when he should be absolutely holding contain.......But not to worry, as he "makes up for it" with his great effort and blazing speed

He should've been cut for this disaster alone

Dreamers · 07-31-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SizzleBear287

Then, why has nobody signed Jim Leonhard yet??

He is still hurt.

07-31-2012, 12:17 PM	#42
2foolish197 i suspect hanky-panky All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: astoria Posts: 4,528	...he's making 2 mil this year with no dead cap money if cut...he could be gone...

07-31-2012, 12:21 PM	#43
King Koopa All League Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,382	Leonhard: Pick against Chargers in the playoffs.....Many other big plays Dwight Lowery: Pick 6 against Favre and the Vikings Brodney Pool: 2 picks against the Pats Abrahm ELam: Multiple strip sacks....one for a TD against the Bills Eric Smith.......ZILCH I want my safeties fast or atleast decent speed and acceleration and with playmaking ability.....Even the backups should make plays here and there. This is the NFL

07-31-2012, 01:30 PM	#48
Jordy Keeping it real... Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tårnby, Denmark Posts: 23,145	Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while...

07-31-2012, 01:50 PM	#50
King Koopa All League Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,382	OK guys, the big hit on Welker.....agreed, nice play by Smith He was playing at an unreal level in those playoffs, which unfortuantely, is not the real Eric Smith we have seen the rest of his time as a Jet. He can hit though, we all know that.....It's his complete inability to guard ANYONE in coverage that makes him such a liability overall......Teams were picking on him left and right last season on 3rd downs....it was embarressing Yes you can stack him in the box, but why should we have to settle for a guy that is just so bad in crucial areas of what makes a succesful safety.....He is not making big plays left and right in the box either....he's just merely a "sure tackler" that will make a few big hits a year (sometimes illegal or borderline dirty). Call me crazy, but I'd rather see what a young guy like Allen or Bush could do back there if it gets down to it. There will still be cuts and other vets that become available as well later on before the season starts. I really can't imagine EVER thinking to myself, "damn man, we really miss Eric Smith back there!", no matter who ends up playing safety.....Can you?

07-31-2012, 02:00 PM	#52
Dreamers The angry poster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,396	Unless we do give Revis a raise I think we keep him for now. I am actually shocked how much cap space we still have. I could see us holding on to him as a 5th BU or trade bate. I think he has some value to this team. With so many teams in need of a S right now he may be worth keeping. The man can block in ST. Maybe he could do it at TE as well?

07-31-2012, 06:19 PM	#57
LadainianIMnotDONE All League Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 3,629	I don't like Smith's game. I think he's straight when he's in a rover position and plays as the 4th linebacker like he did more in the playoff's 2 years ago against NE and Indy. I don't mind him there but when he's in the backline defending he's so bad and he can't cover ANY TE in this league and I do mean ANY. He reads the slants extremely well and all the crossing routes but if you break and out on him or run a flag upfield he's toast. He can't handle the deep post at all either but anything in front of 12 yards he reads pretty well and he's steady against the run. Smith to me is a guy you play at that Rover position and use him to spare a starter for a play or 2. He can't play every down cause he's such a liabilty to too many routes & he bites on double moves way too often & he doesn't break up enough plays. You don't see near INT's from him. He'll lay someone out but its extremely rare that he actually gets his hands on the ball. With all this being said ... I can't stand the guy but Rex isn't cutting him. There's too many health questions with Landry and he knows Rex's system too well. One of the rookies will go before Smith and lets not forget he plays special teams for Westy and Westy loves him. Usually that 4th safety Westy will make the call cause he'll play special teams more and we all know that Smith will be picked. You can bet the house on Smith NOT getting cut just cause he knows the system so well and he'll make some playcalls based on what he see's but the defense is being touched up this year where the linebackers are making more calls and not the safety's. In that regard I see Smith playing less because of that but he won't get cut. If we're lucky he only plays 8-10 snaps a game. That's what I'm hoping ...

07-31-2012, 06:48 PM	#59
King Koopa All League Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,382	He knows the defense so well that he inexplicitly slants inside when he should be absolutely holding contain.......But not to worry, as he "makes up for it" with his great effort and blazing speed He should've been cut for this disaster alone