Jets recind Otah trade

[lageman4ever]

I think the whole "passing a physical" thing is a bit of a smokescreen. If there had been structural damage to Otah's knee, he would have been sent back immediately. The Jets just wanted a week to see what kind of shape Otah was in, how hard he'd work at getting better, could he pick up the playbook fairly easily, etc.

The team obviously realized pretty quickly that Otah is a lost cause (much like Carolina already knew). Which is a shame because when Otah first came into the league he was a serious road-grading OL who really helped the Panthers running game.

[jetstream23]

I looked out the window and saw some sun and some clouds.

I'm calling it Partly Cloudy.

Good analysis by me.

[detjetsfan]

Originally Posted by bitonti

Maybe a run-first offense based on playaction will hide Hunter's flaws just as it will hide Sanchez's flaws. It's easier for big men to go forward then it is to go backward. i see all these desperate names (Carey, McKensie, McNeal etc) i don't know if any are better than Hunter. Heck Otah wasn't better than Hunter. He couldn't even pass a physical.

McNeill - If McNeill can pass a physical sometime between now and week 1 in September he is hands down an enormous upgrade over Wayne Hunter - it's not even close.

Carey - basically the same thing as Hunter. Has priced himself out of the FA market since he was used to the Dolphins overpaying him for so long. He has to feed his kids so he will cave in and sign with someone at or near league minimum - he would give us decent depth at both Guard spots and RT.


McKenzie - no thx.


Otah - always had a feeling he was a waste of time

[Mainejet]

Originally Posted by DDNYjets

I agree. I am not sold on Sanchez but in order to give him a fair evaluation and chance at growth, he deserves to have a decent OL. Hopefully we all end up with egg on our faces with regards to bashing Hunter, but that is a long shot.

As you well know, neither am I. But where the CS has gone all in with Sanchez for another season, they MUST give him his best chance at success. Otherwise, what's the point of going with Sanchez?

Bottom line tells me that the move for Jeff Otah was conclusive evidence that the Jets are worried about Wayne Hunter. So I think that they will not be done with trying to find a replacement for Hunter. Either via a trade or late training camp pick ups off the waiver wire, they will find someone to probably replace Wayne Hunter.

It's always been my belief that the reason the Jets were able to go deep into the playoffs in 2009 and 2010 was because the OL was so formidable. Now, it isn't even a fraction of what it once was and it could cost us another chance at the playoffs again this season.

[auctionking]

Originally Posted by detjetsfan

McNeill - If McNeill can pass a physical sometime between now and week 1 in September he is hands down an enormous upgrade over Wayne Hunter - it's not even close.

Carey - basically the same thing as Hunter. Has priced himself out of the FA market since he was used to the Dolphins overpaying him for so long. He has to feed his kids so he will cave in and sign with someone at or near league minimum - he would give us decent depth at both Guard spots and RT.


McKenzie - no thx.


Otah - always had a feeling he was a waste of time

This is just the start with Sparano,in Miami he was constantly bringing in 0-line player(J.Smiley,Former all-pro, J Grove all-pro, countless high draft picks and they all sucked. Sparano was the luckiest man in the world to get the Jets job. Wait and see. Wait till D-Brick gets hurt playing the 2nd half of the 4th pre season game(ie Jake Long).
The funniest thing out of Miami is how quick paced their offense is compared to Sparanos.

[ARodFLKeysJetsFan]

Tanny need not d_ck around again this year.

Go get on the horn with Vernon Carey's agent.

[Piper]

Originally Posted by ARodFLKeysJetsFan

Tanny need not d_ck around again this year.

Go get on the horn with Vernon Carey's agent.

+1

[Jordy]

They would be foolish not to bring in Vernon Carey



unless...



Sparano knows something we don't.

[TurkJetFan]

Originally Posted by lageman4ever

I think the whole "passing a physical" thing is a bit of a smokescreen. If there had been structural damage to Otah's knee, he would have been sent back immediately. The Jets just wanted a week to see what kind of shape Otah was in, how hard he'd work at getting better, could he pick up the playbook fairly easily, etc.

The team obviously realized pretty quickly that Otah is a lost cause (much like Carolina already knew). Which is a shame because when Otah first came into the league he was a serious road-grading OL who really helped the Panthers running game.

This.

[lamont_jordan_rules]

... so glad i scrolled down before clicking the link ...







l_j_r

[C Mart]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...e-last-of.html

[bitonti]

Originally Posted by detjetsfan

McNeill - If McNeill can pass a physical sometime between now and week 1 in September he is hands down an enormous upgrade over Wayne Hunter - it's not even close.

Marcus Mcneill was known to have a degenerative spinal condition when he was drafted. he played with it and he suffered with it. There's no reason to believe he will return to health. (Doctor says he needs a backyotomy)

[jetrider]

Originally Posted by Mainejet

It's always been my belief that the reason the Jets were able to go deep into the playoffs in 2009 and 2010 was because the OL was so formidable. Now, it isn't even a fraction of what it once was and it could cost us another chance at the playoffs again this season.

LOLROFC

It was that very same overrated OL that cost us our best SB run in 40 years!

And guess what? It wasn't Wayne Hunter's fault. In fact, Hunter did a STUD job on LaMarr Woodley and others.

It was Brick and Rob Turner that didn't show up.

Here's the 1st & 10 on NYJ 33 and the catastrophic 3rd & 17 that ensued. Roll the tape ...




^BRICK AND TURNER GET PUNKED BY HARRISON AND WOODLEY FOR A -7 YARD SACK



^3RD & 17 BRICK SNOOZES AS IKE TAYLOR WALTZES IN FOR THE KILL



^40 YEARS OF CHASING THE LOMBARDI PISSED AWAY FOREVER. BRICK ASLEEP ON HIS FEET AND DOESN'T LIFT AN EYELID




^WAYNE HUNTER MANHANDLES LAMARR WOODLEY WHILE BRICK CONCENTRATES ON THE PRO BOWL


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[jetrider]

Originally Posted by bitonti

Maybe a run-first offense based on playaction will hide Hunter's flaws just as it will hide Sanchez's flaws. It's easier for big men to go forward then it is to go backward. i see all these desperate names (Carey, McKensie, McNeal etc) i don't know if any are better than Hunter. Heck Otah wasn't better than Hunter. He couldn't even pass a physical.

Yes, it's easier to use forward momentum and dump your weight than to use athleticism, footwork, and motor to roll with the pocket and seal the edges and cover much more ground.

That's why Brick is a better run-blocker than pass-blocker.

Whoever started the "Brick is a better pass-blocker than run-blocker" mantra is 100% clueless. It's always been the opposite.

An "off year" my ass. Last season was nothing new.

[bitonti]

Originally Posted by jetrider

LOLROFC

It was that very same overrated OL that cost us our best SB run in 40 years!

On the road, the Jets were down 17-0 with less than 2 minutes to go in the 1st half, even before that play. With that offense, safe to say they weren't going to the Super Bowl regardless.

[Ray Ray19]

I wonder if the Panthers release Otah outright, if the Jets don't take a shot and bring him back without having to give up anything for him and stash him on their PUP?

[lageman4ever]

Originally Posted by Ray Ray19

I wonder if the Panthers release Otah outright, if the Jets don't take a shot and bring him back without having to give up anything for him and stash him on their PUP?

Doubt it. If the Jets thought there were a glimmer of a hope Otah might turn into a force again they would have gladly given up the 7th round pick.

The team must have concluded Otah just doesn't give a sh*t anymore and wouldn't likely play again at a high level (or maybe even wouldn't play at all).

[Untouchable]

Originally Posted by bitonti

Marcus Mcneill was known to have a degenerative spinal condition when he was drafted. he played with it and he suffered with it. There's no reason to believe he will return to health. (Doctor says he needs a backyotomy)

Exactly

The guys career is most likely over.

[shevys]

Originally Posted by jetrider

LOLROFC

It was that very same overrated OL that cost us our best SB run in 40 years!

And guess what? It wasn't Wayne Hunter's fault. In fact, Hunter did a STUD job on LaMarr Woodley and others.

It was Brick and Rob Turner that didn't show up.

Here's the 1st & 10 on NYJ 33 and the catastrophic 3 & 17 that ensued. Roll the tape ...
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Nice breakdown. I know Hunter had his problems but clearly he's not the only culprit on the O line.

[jetrider]

Originally Posted by bitonti

On the road, the Jets were down 17-0 with less than 2 minutes to go in the 1st half, even before that play. With that offense, safe to say they weren't going to the Super Bowl regardless.

How so?

Jets outscored Pittsburgh 19-0 after that play.

Without Taylor's strip-6 Jets win 19-17 and go to Arlington.

Maybe we wouldn't have won SB XLV but at least I'd have a SB game ball with "New York Jets" stamped on it.