Would you sign Shaun Ellis to surpass Gastineau? - Jets Insider.com Forums

Gas2No99 · 07-31-2012, 10:39 PM

I was bored and looking up stats.

Shaun Ellis (72.5) is only 1.5 sacks behind Mark Gastineau (74) for the Jets All-Time Sack Leader.

As a Jets fan, just hypothetically speaking, would you want to re-sign him for a vet's minimum and see him get 2 sacks to surpass #99's tainted stats and ugly exit (Despite reconciliation) from the team? Just curious on thoughts.

vs.

I LOVE Shaun Ellis. He was a consistent Jet and as much as I'm a Gastineau fan, I think #92 would be more deserving of that crown. I'd like to see him at least get the opportunity for the record.

Bugg Superstar · 07-31-2012, 10:43 PM

That traitor can go retire. Just glad he lost the Super Bowl

NY2FLDWC85 · 07-31-2012, 10:43 PM

No. We have two young guns in Wilkerson and Coples. You don't set the defense as a team back, in order to (attempt to) allow Shaun Ellis tie or break a franchise record.

Ellis has been on a steep decline. I made it known heading into last season, that Ellis was on a decline, and would be lucky to put up anything more than 20 tackles and 2 sacks with NE. I was right, but, he was even worse and/or more washed up than expected/imagined.

2008: 60 tackles, 8.5 sacks.
2009: 53 tackles, 6.5 sacks.
2010: 36 tackles, 4.5 sacks.
2011: 14 tackles, 1.0 sacks.

He's completely done as an NFL football player, and may not have two sacks left in his ability. How long would you expect to wait for Ellis to record those two sacks? Two years? He's done.

TheOne · 07-31-2012, 10:44 PM

No
Only sign him for a day contract so he can retire as a JET

TurkJetFan · 07-31-2012, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas2No99

I was bored and looking up stats.

Shaun Ellis (72.5) is only 1.5 sacks behind Mark Gastineau (74) for the Jets All-Time Sack Leader.

As a Jets fan, just hypothetically speaking, would you want to re-sign him for a vet's minimum and see him get 2 sacks to surpass #99's tainted stats and ugly exit (Despite reconciliation) from the team? Just curious on thoughts.

vs.

I LOVE Shaun Ellis. He was a consistent Jet and as much as I'm a Gastineau fan, I think #92 would be more deserving of that crown. I'd like to see him at least get the opportunity for the record.

no, he had his chance while he was here. That type of move is a slap in the face to Gastineau. He was ****ed once by Strahan no need to **** him again especially by his own team.

NY2FLDWC85 · 07-31-2012, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOne

No
Only sign him for a day contract so he can retire as a JET

Even though I couldn't stand Ellis leaving the Jets for the Patriots... I approve this message. He gave us his heart and soul, and deserves to retire a Jet.

Snell41 · 07-31-2012, 11:45 PM

You can't blame Ellis for signing with NE, they gave him a ridiculous contract. They overpaid him by 3 million dollars. I would let him sign to retire a Jet, but not to actually play.

RazorJet · 07-31-2012, 11:50 PM

It'd be nice if he could play one game get a couple sacks and then retire but that ain't gonna happen. He was good while he was a Jet, he should retire one.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 07-31-2012, 11:54 PM

Glad he lost the SB... Now he can retire like most other Jets have...

southside · 07-31-2012, 11:58 PM

No.

He left the Jets. He went to the hated rival. He doesn't deserve that level of loyalty.

He would be stupid to not take the extra 3M dollars. That I don't begrudge him of. But when it comes to loyalty, he showed none. Why should the Jets show him any? Let him retire with the enemy for that matter. This is professional sports and he showed ZERO loyalty with his move.

This is like when Glavin signed with the Mets. We booed his ass all day in ATL. Once he retired and some time went by he's been accepted back by the fans. But they still wont forget how he ended his career. Some people don't care about their legacy, instead going for the money. Pretty sad that loyalty, legacy, and integrity can be bought out.

Gastineau99 · 08-01-2012, 12:33 AM

Nope. Gaston ray is the best pass rusher the jets ever had. Ellis doesn't come close plus he went to the Pats. F-that lazy, pothead sellout.

NYRAGE · 08-01-2012, 12:44 AM

Nah, let him try to break NE's record.

Jet Nut · 08-01-2012, 12:50 AM

In football where real stats are unimportant and this is far from a real stat?

Considering that they didn't count sacks the first 3 years of Gastineau's career?

No.

Untouchable · 08-01-2012, 04:00 AM

LOL

We have people badmouthing Ellis in this thread and praising Gastineu?

The same guy who in the prime of his career left us high and dry to go bang that she-hulk Bridget Nielsen?

Gastineu can suck a bag of dicks as far as I'm concerned.

Ellis wanted to continue playing and I can't blame him for leaving or signing with the Pats for that matter. We offered him the vet minimum after he was voted to the pro-bowl and almost single handedly dismantled the Pats offense in a playoff win. He took it as a slap in the face and I don't blame him.

124 · 08-01-2012, 07:30 AM

Absolutely not.

His time is over. It's time for young players to play and show what they can do. Ellis can sign a one day contract and retire a Jet if he'd like, but no skin off our nose if he doesn't care to do so.

Savage69 · 08-01-2012, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jet Nut

In football where real stats are unimportant and this is far from a real stat?

Considering that they didn't count sacks the first 3 years of Gastineau's career?

No.

Or the first 5 of Klecko's.. I guess Ellis had more then Deacon Jones who coined the phrase sack..

JetPotato · 08-01-2012, 07:39 AM

I'd only do it to then subsequently bring back Gastineau to take the record back right back.

Hell, let's sign every washed up old traitor defensive lineman we can think of.

Savage69 · 08-01-2012, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JetPotato

I'd only do it to then subsequently bring back Gastineau to take the record back right back.

Hell, let's sign every washed up old traitor defensive lineman we can think of.

How is Ellis a traitor?? He wanted to stay with the Jets it's not like he had a poison pill in his contract because he wanted to be with a coach on another team??

Gangrene · 08-01-2012, 07:46 AM

For those that are hating on Shaun Ellis you are forgetting his last gift to the Jets ... sucking up 3 million of the Patriot's salary cap and being a non-factor all season long.

That's what I call a friend

JetPotato · 08-01-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gangrene

For those that are hating on Shaun Ellis you are forgetting his last gift to the Jets ... sucking up 3 million of the Patriot's salary cap and being a non-factor all season long.

That's what I call a friend

Yeah thank God for that or we would've never won the division over them

07-31-2012, 10:39 PM	#1
Gas2No99 Patiently waiting for disappointment once again All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 245-A Posts: 2,941	Would you sign Shaun Ellis to surpass Gastineau? I was bored and looking up stats. Shaun Ellis (72.5) is only 1.5 sacks behind Mark Gastineau (74) for the Jets All-Time Sack Leader. As a Jets fan, just hypothetically speaking, would you want to re-sign him for a vet's minimum and see him get 2 sacks to surpass #99's tainted stats and ugly exit (Despite reconciliation) from the team? Just curious on thoughts. vs. I LOVE Shaun Ellis. He was a consistent Jet and as much as I'm a Gastineau fan, I think #92 would be more deserving of that crown. I'd like to see him at least get the opportunity for the record.

07-31-2012, 10:43 PM	#2
Bugg Superstar drinking beer Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bergenfield Posts: 391	That traitor can go retire. Just glad he lost the Super Bowl

07-31-2012, 10:43 PM	#3
NY2FLDWC85 Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 898	No. We have two young guns in Wilkerson and Coples. You don't set the defense as a team back, in order to (attempt to) allow Shaun Ellis tie or break a franchise record. Ellis has been on a steep decline. I made it known heading into last season, that Ellis was on a decline, and would be lucky to put up anything more than 20 tackles and 2 sacks with NE. I was right, but, he was even worse and/or more washed up than expected/imagined. 2008: 60 tackles, 8.5 sacks. 2009: 53 tackles, 6.5 sacks. 2010: 36 tackles, 4.5 sacks. 2011: 14 tackles, 1.0 sacks. He's completely done as an NFL football player, and may not have two sacks left in his ability. How long would you expect to wait for Ellis to record those two sacks? Two years? He's done.

07-31-2012, 10:44 PM	#4
TheOne Rookie Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 791	No Only sign him for a day contract so he can retire as a JET

07-31-2012, 11:45 PM	#7
Snell41 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,496	You can't blame Ellis for signing with NE, they gave him a ridiculous contract. They overpaid him by 3 million dollars. I would let him sign to retire a Jet, but not to actually play.

07-31-2012, 11:50 PM	#8
RazorJet W P S! !!!! no, i mean it. Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Atkins, Arkansas Posts: 1,625	It'd be nice if he could play one game get a couple sacks and then retire but that ain't gonna happen. He was good while he was a Jet, he should retire one.

07-31-2012, 11:54 PM	#9
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,454	Glad he lost the SB... Now he can retire like most other Jets have...

07-31-2012, 11:58 PM	#10
southside Forever Awesome All Pro Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 8,898	No. He left the Jets. He went to the hated rival. He doesn't deserve that level of loyalty. He would be stupid to not take the extra 3M dollars. That I don't begrudge him of. But when it comes to loyalty, he showed none. Why should the Jets show him any? Let him retire with the enemy for that matter. This is professional sports and he showed ZERO loyalty with his move. This is like when Glavin signed with the Mets. We booed his ass all day in ATL. Once he retired and some time went by he's been accepted back by the fans. But they still wont forget how he ended his career. Some people don't care about their legacy, instead going for the money. Pretty sad that loyalty, legacy, and integrity can be bought out.

08-01-2012, 12:33 AM	#11
Gastineau99 Section 135 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,345	Nope. Gaston ray is the best pass rusher the jets ever had. Ellis doesn't come close plus he went to the Pats. F-that lazy, pothead sellout.

08-01-2012, 12:44 AM	#12
NYRAGE Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,782	Nah, let him try to break NE's record.

08-01-2012, 12:50 AM	#13
Jet Nut Wise madness is better than foolish sanity.... Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Manalapan Posts: 11,125	In football where real stats are unimportant and this is far from a real stat? Considering that they didn't count sacks the first 3 years of Gastineau's career? No.

08-01-2012, 04:00 AM	#14
Untouchable Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 22,409	LOL We have people badmouthing Ellis in this thread and praising Gastineu? The same guy who in the prime of his career left us high and dry to go bang that she-hulk Bridget Nielsen? Gastineu can suck a bag of dicks as far as I'm concerned. Ellis wanted to continue playing and I can't blame him for leaving or signing with the Pats for that matter. We offered him the vet minimum after he was voted to the pro-bowl and almost single handedly dismantled the Pats offense in a playoff win. He took it as a slap in the face and I don't blame him.

08-01-2012, 07:30 AM	#15
124 There's NO reason to delay the process. Start Geno Smith. All Pro Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 7,973	Absolutely not. His time is over. It's time for young players to play and show what they can do. Ellis can sign a one day contract and retire a Jet if he'd like, but no skin off our nose if he doesn't care to do so.

08-01-2012, 07:39 AM	#17
JetPotato fermenting Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 12,142	I'd only do it to then subsequently bring back Gastineau to take the record back right back. Hell, let's sign every washed up old traitor defensive lineman we can think of.

08-01-2012, 07:46 AM	#19
Gangrene Glad Sparano is gone, on the fence about Mornhinweg.. Veteran Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Vinegar Hill, Brooklyn ... Posts: 2,045	For those that are hating on Shaun Ellis you are forgetting his last gift to the Jets ... sucking up 3 million of the Patriot's salary cap and being a non-factor all season long. That's what I call a friend