Woody Just Picked Jets to Have Less than 8 Wins this year - Jets Insider.com Forums

One Eye · 08-01-2012, 04:53 PM

On ESPN DAMIEN Woody (edit: not the owner). Asked over/under for the JEts who were 8-8 last year.

Cited the offense, specifically WR depth, and the backup Qbs inability to lead a pro offense as reasons for thinking the team will have less wins.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but citing a back up qb's ability as reasons a team won't go far is insane in mho. In fact, he specifically mentioned Tebow, and Cro's comments sticking inline with the ESPN rhetoric. Like what about a new offensive coordinator, or the upgraded secondary, or anything else related to FOOTBALL.

Im so tired of this network. Thank god for the NFLN.

Buldawg · 08-01-2012, 05:00 PM

AS long as it's Damien and not Johnson...

TheMikeIsHot · 08-01-2012, 05:03 PM

you should probably specify who you're talking about, since the owner shares a name with a few different analysts. Very misleading thread title!

Gata · 08-01-2012, 05:04 PM

no way we get less than 8 Wins

SlickBri481 · 08-01-2012, 05:06 PM

I would get used to the negative predictions for this team. The mainstream media is not very high on us. Even our beat writers aren't very high on the team's chances. Outside of this fanbase, few expect the team to have a strong season.

Right now, for the masses, the Jets are not considered a serious contender. But neither were the Giants last year if you want to look at the bright side

Apache 51 · 08-01-2012, 05:11 PM

Anything is possible we have not established an O, and ST's needs work.

jetfan51 · 08-01-2012, 05:32 PM

Very easy for an analyst to stress the changes in a positive or negative light..

New Offensive Coordinator & System
Younger at WR
Back-up QB who will be in the week game plan packages..
chemistry?
RT?

3-4 vs 4-3 defense.
Youth impact?
Safety positional turnover?

let's face it, the Jets are a big "?" mark...

nobody has a Chrystal Ball.... i think there will be a huge emphasis on being a physical team.... May not be as flashy on offense, but won't turn ball over as much... On defense, they will be more active and have much more depth than in past... OL depth is still very much a concern..

GreenWave · 08-01-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

you should probably specify who you're talking about, since the owner shares a name with a few different analysts. Very misleading thread title!

My thoughts exactly! I'm thinking WTF kind of owner is this guy?

rick34125 · 08-01-2012, 05:39 PM

sal pal's been around training camp every day and he thinks the jets will have 10-11 wins. so go figure.

One Eye · 08-01-2012, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenWave

My thoughts exactly! I'm thinking WTF kind of owner is this guy?

Did not even realize that when i wrote it. My bad.

One Eye · 08-01-2012, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rick34125

sal pal's been around training camp every day and he thinks the jets will have 10-11 wins. so go figure.

idk....improved defense and a new offense that, let's face it, can't be much worse then last year.

I think we are a pretty tough match up for anybody. To think we won't win 50% of the games without significant injuries is a lil ridiculous to me. I mean we were terrible, with less of a roster, a fractured locker room and a confused defense, and we still finished 8-8.

Its so sad the media hates this team, but at the same time, lives for their every action.

Jordy · 08-01-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by One Eye

On ESPN. Asked over/under for the JEts who were 8-8 last year.

Cited the offense, specifically WR depth, and the backup Qbs inability to lead a pro offense as reasons for thinking the team will have less wins.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but citing a back up qb's ability as reasons a team won't go far is insane in mho. In fact, he specifically mentioned Tebow, and Cro's comments sticking inline with the ESPN rhetoric. Like what about a new offensive coordinator, or the upgraded secondary, or anything else related to FOOTBALL.

Im so tired of this network. Thank god for the NFLN.

I agree 100% that the WR depth and overall talent is an issue.

Jordy · 08-01-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rick34125

sal pal's been around training camp every day and he thinks the jets will have 10-11 wins. so go figure.

Because that's what it said on the script that Rex handed him.

kennyo7 · 08-01-2012, 05:48 PM

It all depends on our O-Line. If they play as bad as last year, cant open up running lanes or pass protect, then less than 8 wins is very likely. That is unless our D plays lights out game in and game out and holds opponents to less than 14 points/game.

JetsfanfromtheBURGH · 08-01-2012, 05:48 PM

When Sanchez was a rookie we won 9 games. We will go 12-4 on the year. This I know. Trust me

One Eye · 08-01-2012, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kennyo7

It all depends on our O-Line. If they play as bad as last year, cant open up running lanes or pass protect, then less than 8 wins is very likely. That is unless our D plays lights out game in and game out and holds opponents to less than 14 points/game.

My point is this: The Oline last year played like ****, Wayne Hunter was our OT, the RBs were unproven or old, the WR, except Santonio, were old, and Santonio hated the OC. Not to mention that the defense was slow, S depth was horrid, and Rex was less involved in the playcalling (his forte).

And we still went 8-8.

That's why, with the edition of Tebow, Hill, Coples, Landry, Bell, and the rest of the rookie class, in addition to the growth of guys like Lankster, K.Wilson, Wilkerson, K.Ellis, and maybe even, dare I say, Ducasse, I don't know how you can think this team can finish with a worse record. We may not win the division, or go to the super bowl, but we will be above .500, barring serious injuries to Sanchez, Mangold, D-Brick, or Revis.

Jordy · 08-01-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by One Eye

My point is this: The Oline last year played like ****, Wayne Hunter was our OT, the RBs were unproven or old, the WR, except Santonio, were old, and Santonio hated the OC. Not to mention that the defense was slow, S depth was horrid, and Rex was less involved in the playcalling (his forte).

And we still went 8-8.

That's why, with the edition of Tebow, Hill, Coples, Landry, Bell, and the rest of the rookie class, in addition to the growth of guys like Lankster, K.Wilson, Wilkerson, K.Ellis, and maybe even, dare I say, Ducasse, I don't know how you can think this team can finish with a worse record. We may not win the division, or go to the super bowl, but we will be above .500, barring serious injuries to Sanchez, Mangold, D-Brick, or Revis.

My problem with Santonio is this.

How many good seasons has he had without such guys as Hines Ward, Mike Wallace and Braylon Edwards playing with him? Guys who can draw double coverage or who can stretch the field for him?

We are putting that responsinilty squarely on the shoulders of a 1st round draft pick with very little experience in a vertical passing game.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite · 08-01-2012, 06:10 PM

I predict he has 0 wins this season

KRL · 08-01-2012, 06:13 PM

The "media's narrative" is the Jets are a circus with a QB controversy
so therefore they'll be a last place team winning 6 games. Who cares!!!

John_0515 · 08-01-2012, 06:19 PM

Jets have been more focused and serious in recent memory.

Let the "experts" who try to justify their existence say whatever they want.

Only 1 guy picked the Jets against the Pats in the playoffs. Jets were hungry and focused then as well. They proved EVERYONE wrong then as well.

Let's not get spun up about this. Jets may be 7-9 this year, but not because Woody said so or knows better.

08-01-2012, 04:53 PM	#1
One Eye RIP 2012 Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2006 Location: Manalapan, NJ Posts: 2,220	Woody Just Picked Jets to Have Less than 8 Wins this year On ESPN DAMIEN Woody (edit: not the owner). Asked over/under for the JEts who were 8-8 last year. Cited the offense, specifically WR depth, and the backup Qbs inability to lead a pro offense as reasons for thinking the team will have less wins. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but citing a back up qb's ability as reasons a team won't go far is insane in mho. In fact, he specifically mentioned Tebow, and Cro's comments sticking inline with the ESPN rhetoric. Like what about a new offensive coordinator, or the upgraded secondary, or anything else related to FOOTBALL. Im so tired of this network. Thank god for the NFLN. Last edited by One Eye; 08-01-2012 at 05:47 PM.

08-01-2012, 05:00 PM	#2
Buldawg Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New York Posts: 501	AS long as it's Damien and not Johnson...

08-01-2012, 05:03 PM	#3
TheMikeIsHot All Pro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 7,043	you should probably specify who you're talking about, since the owner shares a name with a few different analysts. Very misleading thread title!

08-01-2012, 05:04 PM	#4
Gata JETS! I hate your freaking guts, you make me vomit, you are the scum between my toes. Love, Gata Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Jersey Posts: 820	no way we get less than 8 Wins

08-01-2012, 05:06 PM	#5
SlickBri481 Heal up Darrelle... All Pro Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 6,351	I would get used to the negative predictions for this team. The mainstream media is not very high on us. Even our beat writers aren't very high on the team's chances. Outside of this fanbase, few expect the team to have a strong season. Right now, for the masses, the Jets are not considered a serious contender. But neither were the Giants last year if you want to look at the bright side

08-01-2012, 05:11 PM	#6
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,642	Anything is possible we have not established an O, and ST's needs work.

08-01-2012, 05:32 PM	#7
jetfan51 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 962	Very easy for an analyst to stress the changes in a positive or negative light.. New Offensive Coordinator & System Younger at WR Back-up QB who will be in the week game plan packages.. chemistry? RT? 3-4 vs 4-3 defense. Youth impact? Safety positional turnover? let's face it, the Jets are a big "?" mark... nobody has a Chrystal Ball.... i think there will be a huge emphasis on being a physical team.... May not be as flashy on offense, but won't turn ball over as much... On defense, they will be more active and have much more depth than in past... OL depth is still very much a concern..

08-01-2012, 05:39 PM	#9
rick34125 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: that's a signpost up ahead... Posts: 932	sal pal's been around training camp every day and he thinks the jets will have 10-11 wins. so go figure.

08-01-2012, 05:48 PM	#14
kennyo7 All Pro Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,403	It all depends on our O-Line. If they play as bad as last year, cant open up running lanes or pass protect, then less than 8 wins is very likely. That is unless our D plays lights out game in and game out and holds opponents to less than 14 points/game.

08-01-2012, 05:48 PM	#15
JetsfanfromtheBURGH Pirates win 88 games this year. Mark it! Veteran Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 2,138	When Sanchez was a rookie we won 9 games. We will go 12-4 on the year. This I know. Trust me

08-01-2012, 06:10 PM	#18
AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite is all out of fuCks to give... All Pro Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,452	I predict he has 0 wins this season

08-01-2012, 06:13 PM	#19
KRL Veteran Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,721	The "media's narrative" is the Jets are a circus with a QB controversy so therefore they'll be a last place team winning 6 games. Who cares!!!

08-01-2012, 06:19 PM	#20
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,130	Jets have been more focused and serious in recent memory. Let the "experts" who try to justify their existence say whatever they want. Only 1 guy picked the Jets against the Pats in the playoffs. Jets were hungry and focused then as well. They proved EVERYONE wrong then as well. Let's not get spun up about this. Jets may be 7-9 this year, but not because Woody said so or knows better.