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auctionking · 08-02-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paradis

Sign off here if you're with me.

It seems like based on people's post here that everyone's forgot what this man was brought in to do. Kill it in the red zone. Hello - Florida bowl championship with Chris Leak?

I don't give a sh*t if Tebow's listed as a QB, LB, RB whatever - he's gonna save our bacon late in more than one game this year... I can't believe how rampantly this notion has been lost on Jets nation.

Werent the Jets Number 1 in the Red zone last year. The one area that Sanchez excelled. Yet the Jets decide to bring in Tebow to take the ball out of the hands of the man with the most single season tds. I remember Sanchez running up the gut out of the shotgun and scoring last year, How times the first three years of Marks career did Mark jump start his preformance after scoring a td.?

FijiJet · 08-02-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by david1023

I see Tebow extending drives, giving the defense plenty of time to rest. We simply need more TOP on offense than on defense.

This. Controlling the clock, getting the hard yards and punching it in when needed.

Snell41 · 08-02-2012, 10:13 PM

Tim Tebow led the league in 3 and outs last year and was absolutely putrid in the Red Zone with a 27 QBR and was 26th in TD's per red zone appearance at 44%, yet THAT'S when we're going to put him in?? That makes zero sense whatsoever.

Charlie Brown · 08-02-2012, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Tim Tebow led the league in 3 and outs last year and was absolutely putrid in the Red Zone with a 27 QBR and was 26th in TD's per red zone appearance at 44%, yet THAT'S when we're going to put him in?? That makes zero sense whatsoever.

My points exactly; this makes no sense, it is truly fantasy football run amuck!!!

Paradis · 08-02-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by auctionking

Werent the Jets Number 1 in the Red zone last year. The one area that Sanchez excelled. Yet the Jets decide to bring in Tebow to take the ball out of the hands of the man with the most single season tds. I remember Sanchez running up the gut out of the shotgun and scoring last year, How times the first three years of Marks career did Mark jump start his preformance after scoring a td.?

It's not about that. It's about being able to pound the ball in. Last year we were #1 in the red zone, (on the 8 occasions we made it that far) - but we did in a very un-jets like way. It was a mess to get that far. God only knows how we managed that pseudo-stat.

I think this Sporano led offense will be unstoppable inside the 20. You're gonna see Mark and Tim out on the field lots together, well before the 20 too.

JETFAN1 · 08-02-2012, 10:25 PM

Definitely. I liked the Tebow acquisition for this very reason and also as an in-game/short term replacement for Sanchez if he gets injured. Besides the obvious wild cat plays/single wing he's a perfect back up due the stark differences in ability. Teams are going to have a rough time game planning for both QB's.

auctionking · 08-02-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Tim Tebow led the league in 3 and outs last year and was absolutely putrid in the Red Zone with a 27 QBR and was 26th in TD's per red zone appearance at 44%, yet THAT'S when we're going to put him in?? That makes zero sense whatsoever.

We were first....Why would they do this

John_0515 · 08-02-2012, 10:41 PM

I don't think people dispute the fact that Tebow will be a strong goal line/wildcat/short yardage "player". The problem is that the media hype on him starting as an every down QB has made it annoying.

What other 2nd string QB makes himself available to the media?

Nobody else thinks he acts like a primadonna?

auctionking · 08-02-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Paradis

It's not about that. It's about being able to pound the ball in. Last year we were #1 in the red zone, (on the 8 occasions we made it that far) - but we did in a very un-jets like way. It was a mess to get that far. God only knows how we managed that pseudo-stat.

I think this Sporano led offense will be unstoppable inside the 20. You're gonna see Mark and Tim out on the field lots together, well before the 20 too.

Sparono was run out of Miami for his love of the fieldgoal and we decide to give the reins to him and Tebow (26th) in the red zone last year,to replace the number 1 ranked red zone offense in the NFL. Sanchez excels as a red zone qb,why take it away from him?

auctionking · 08-02-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Tim Tebow led the league in 3 and outs last year and was absolutely putrid in the Red Zone with a 27 QBR and was 26th in TD's per red zone appearance at 44%, yet THAT'S when we're going to put him in?? That makes zero sense whatsoever.

Wait we are going to use Cro as our #2 qb

John_0515 · 08-02-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by auctionking

Wait we are going to use Cro as our #2 qb

#2 RT?

auctionking · 08-02-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Tim Tebow led the league in 3 and outs last year and was absolutely putrid in the Red Zone with a 27 QBR and was 26th in TD's per red zone appearance at 44%, yet THAT'S when we're going to put him in?? That makes zero sense whatsoever.

Wait we are going to use Cro as our #2 wr,if Hill was really that good why would we even hear about this. Chiz , Kerley ,Hill and Turner if all are as good as most poster here believe ,it would be impossible for Cro to even think about wr. we know what we have in Chiz,Kerley and P.Turner. The only reason for cro to play offense is because Hill is not ready. How many free-agents did we sign today,all wrs

Snell41 · 08-02-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by auctionking

Wait we are going to use Cro as our #2 wr,if Hill was really that good why would we even hear about this. Chiz , Kerley ,Hill and Turner if all are as good as most poster here believe ,it would be impossible for Cro to even think about wr. we know what we have in Chiz,Kerley and P.Turner. The only reason for cro to play offense is because Hill is not ready. How many free-agents did we sign today,all wrs

Not sure if you meant to quote me, if so I don't see the relevance. The two things that Tebow was consistently horrible at were extending drives and scoring in the red zone. Why in the world would we look at him as some sort of upgrade to do either for us?

OCCH · 08-02-2012, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Not sure if you meant to quote me, if so I don't see the relevance. The two things that Tebow was consistently horrible at were extending drives and scoring in the red zone. Why in the world would we look at him as some sort of upgrade to do either for us?

So you agree this was just a PR move? Or do you think there are other areas we can use him, just not red zone/3rd down?

Rexipus Rex · 08-02-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paradis

Sign off here if you're with me.

It seems like based on people's post here that everyone's forgot what this man was brought in to do. Kill it in the red zone. Hello - Florida bowl championship with Chris Leak?

I don't give a sh*t if Tebow's listed as a QB, LB, RB whatever - he's gonna save our bacon late in more than one game this year... I can't believe how rampantly this notion has been lost on Jets nation.

Inside the 5 or on a two point conversion, I'm all with you.

Demosthenes9 · 08-02-2012, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Snell41

Not sure if you meant to quote me, if so I don't see the relevance. The two things that Tebow was consistently horrible at were extending drives and scoring in the red zone. Why in the world would we look at him as some sort of upgrade to do either for us?

Perhaps Rex and company might think that Fox and McCoy misused Tebow's talents last year ?

When actually trying to score (on 1 "run", Tebow centered the ball for a kick), Tebow is 7 for 7 on scoring TDs while running from inside the 3 yard line.

He was also 3 for 3 when running on 2 pt conversions.

As for extending drives, Fox is notoriously conservative and that didn't change last year, only going for it on 4th and 2 or less a total of 4 times. Tebow was 0 for 3 passing, but 1 for 1 running.

I've got a feeling that Rex will be a bit more daring and drives will indeed be extended.

Apache 51 · 08-03-2012, 08:04 AM

First team offense must be able to get 1st downs, and score touchdowns. An occasional use of other packages can be beneficial, occasional.

Mohegangreen · 08-03-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Apache 51

First team offense must be able to get 1st downs, and score touchdowns. An occasional use of other packages can be beneficial, occasional.

Agreed, tricks and gadgets can help, but won't win for you over the long haul

GandWFan · 08-03-2012, 08:51 AM

Tebow would be great from the 3. From the 10 Mark is better.

doggin94it · 08-03-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

I don't get the premise of this entire thread and it shows a level of INSANITY!!!

I mean didn't the Jets have the best redzone offense in all of football last year

Didn't Tebow have the worst 3rd down efficiency rate in all of football last year

I don't get it, Sanchez has had more fourth quarter comebacks than almost any QB since he has entered the NFL.....

Why in the world would we put a player in who actually performed poorer than our own starting QB.......

I for one am NOT against Tebow and I am glad he is on the team but I think that we have to be realistic and understand that to use him the coaching staff has to be creative and not "fix" what wasn't broken!!!
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Come on people..... Good Grief!!!

charlie, you need to consider regression to the mean. teams that lead the league in red zone efficiency while being near the bottom of the league in offensive efficiency
probably won't repeat those red zone results the next year

08-02-2012, 10:13 PM	#23
Snell41 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,492	Tim Tebow led the league in 3 and outs last year and was absolutely putrid in the Red Zone with a 27 QBR and was 26th in TD's per red zone appearance at 44%, yet THAT'S when we're going to put him in?? That makes zero sense whatsoever.

08-02-2012, 10:25 PM	#26
JETFAN1 Bored Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,782	Definitely. I liked the Tebow acquisition for this very reason and also as an in-game/short term replacement for Sanchez if he gets injured. Besides the obvious wild cat plays/single wing he's a perfect back up due the stark differences in ability. Teams are going to have a rough time game planning for both QB's.

08-02-2012, 10:41 PM	#28
John_0515 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 21,130	I don't think people dispute the fact that Tebow will be a strong goal line/wildcat/short yardage "player". The problem is that the media hype on him starting as an every down QB has made it annoying. What other 2nd string QB makes himself available to the media? Nobody else thinks he acts like a primadonna?

08-03-2012, 08:04 AM	#37
Apache 51 Let's Kill them all......... Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2009 Location: In Morris Co.,N.J.,at the right end of a Browning 12 gauge Posts: 12,641	First team offense must be able to get 1st downs, and score touchdowns. An occasional use of other packages can be beneficial, occasional.

08-03-2012, 08:51 AM	#39
GandWFan Veteran Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,099	Tebow would be great from the 3. From the 10 Mark is better.