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The Two Faces of a Police State
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Binghampton. Sociology prof.
Not exactly what one would call a front line school. It's not even a decent SUNY school let alone a school where someone of repute would teach. And sociology. Those are the guys who hate people who work and also hate white people. Nah. Another whining moron looking for recognition by mucking things up. |
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James Petras has been spot on for quite a few years now. Some of the things that I have mentioned here over the past few weeks are the same things that he has embellished even more.
Where are the 'stop and frisk' for the banksters? Where are the arrest? Billions in drug monies laundered. Monies that cannot be 'accounted for'? How much longer are you going to buy into this charade? |
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If you had any depth you may be able to read into what I posted. Let me simplify it some more: Where is the equivalent program to nab the banksters? |
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You're right. Other than those, I can't think of anything. |
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The original road-kill pus slurper. MMMmmm pus.
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Sociology? I can't really comment. |
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The problem is that it is almost impossible to prove the requisite criminal intent in making a bad financial bet, even when leveraged beyond what now seems like clearly reasonable limits, even when managing other people's money. How do you prove that a position was taken solely to build the rep's commissions and not because the rep really thought it would be a beneficial move for the client? Short of e-mails or testimony with an admission, it's almost impossible. And that is the only rel crime involved, if any were; other than potential disregard of fiduciary duties in favor of self-interest, the transactions that led to the meltdown were all legal. Stupid, but legal. For that reason, the biggest bulwark against that type of fraud will always be an educated investor who monitors his portfolio and keeps track of the moves being made with in it, and understands and agrees with their rationale. If your broker can't explain to you why he made the big buy he did, then find another rep. And if you decide to trust him without understanding why he's making the moves he does, don't complain if they later turn out to be bad bets. |
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I see the 88 to 97 period all over again.
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Right there with Harvard Business, Northwestern, Stanford et al. Obviously there are some SUNY people here. Sorry. In the day, a "safe" school with low in state tuition. Good value. A commie soc prof commenting again. Another worthless major. If he was an economics or finance or even general business - maybe. Just another ivory tower, blue sky theorist. Hey, we have one of those in the WH. |
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![]() I didn't go there either - but I agree, lets call it like it is. |
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But Clemson is not and a pretty good place. Add UVA. Some of the commie Cal schools are actually well thought of. But in all fairness, the good schools are almost all the private ones. That is where the big time employers look. |
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Good info as always Doggin, thanks. I know it's a liberal, commie rag, but I thought the Matt Taibbi article in Rolling Stone a while back was very interesting. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-jail-20110216 |
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Why would Goldman pay more than a half a billion if they did nothing wrong, criminally? I guess that isn't that much for a bank of that size. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-not...5--sector.html |
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Remember, GS would have been facing a jury, one likely peopled with panelists not particularly happy with bankers. Was the government's case airtight? No. (If it was, they wouldn't have settled any more than they did with Madoff) Was settling a better bet than going to trial, taking the reputational hit (and living with the business disruption), and then risking essentially the death of the institution? (Which is what a guilty result would have meant) Absolutely. It's not even a tough decision (to settle; I'm sure the amount didn't go down easy). |
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I see the 88 to 97 period all over again.
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