Peter King: McElroy more of a back-up type QB than Tebow? - Jets Insider.com Forums

JStokes · 08-09-2012, 06:36 PM

Was on the Michael Kaye show this afternoon with LaGreca and Damien Woody, and he wasn't bashing Tebow in any respect--but when they asked him about the Jets and the whole Sanchez-Tebow thing, he said after going to their practices yesterday it appeared to him that--in his opinion--McElroy looks like more of the typical back-up type QB than Tebow.

Said Tebow is going to do all his crazy (may have said whacky) stuff in the Wildcat and on special teams, but if Sanchez went down and you needed someone to come in and finish a game efficiently, he thought it more likely that McElroy would be the one they would use.

And he wasn't suggesting that McElroy IS the back-up or that he's taking the back-up snaps, just his perception of how the Jet offense would work if Sanchez went down.

Personlly, I'm not sure McElroy has the arm to play for long stretches in this league, but is he better equipped to play the traditional QB role with Tebow continuing to come in for his special packages?

For instance, in the presesaon games, is Tebow going to take ALL the traditional 2nd string snaps or is he still going to be taking his WC/spread option plays and McElroy the traditional offense?

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BamaJets · 08-09-2012, 06:52 PM

really if Sanchez wasn't available and they needed to air it out for a bit, they might have to go to Mac ... or Simms. But adding them into the mix and getting practice reps? sure they would be limited, but they'd still be reps taken from Sanchez, who will already be losing some to Tebow.

But if you are in pass mode, things kind of get hectic, plays get broken and you just kind of throw it around. so i guess you don't really need that much rapport with your WRs. hope it doesn't come to it!!!

sg3 · 08-09-2012, 06:56 PM

simms appears to be having a better camp than mcelroy from all reports

and a quieter mouth

simijet · 08-09-2012, 07:01 PM

While I agree McElroy might be the more effective QB should Sanchez go down, I really have a hard time believing Rex wouldn't go with Tebow in that situation.

Monsterxman · 08-09-2012, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sg3

simms appears to be having a better camp than mcelroy from all reports

and a quieter mouth

McElroy is the #3. If Sanchez goes down or stinks it up, they are pulling a Denver.
Simms couldn't start in college, and can be thrown on the PS without worry of another team signing him.

Joe W. Namath · 08-09-2012, 07:16 PM

Someone needs to tell Peter King that fat, drunk and stupid is no way to through life.

simijet · 08-09-2012, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath

Someone needs to tell Peter King that fat, drunk and stupid is no way to through life.

For the younger guys:

JonEJet · 08-09-2012, 07:35 PM

Maybe he can put a good word in with Bellipuke.....McElroy probably will be looking for a job soon, and I hear Mallet is The SUCK!!

Jetworks · 08-09-2012, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sg3

simms appears to be having a better camp than mcelroy from all reports

This.

TheMikeIsHot · 08-09-2012, 08:23 PM

I really can't read or watch NFL analysis anymore.

It's all bad... written with an agenda or just flat out wrong, sometimes both.

I refuse to watch ESPN unless there's a good game on.

There are very few people out there worth watching or reading anymore.

jzelada121 · 08-09-2012, 08:27 PM

Peter should stick to backwood/small town sports reporting

IHATEDOLPHINS · 08-09-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot

I really can't read or watch NFL analysis anymore.

It's all bad... written with an agenda or just flat out wrong, sometimes both.

I refuse to watch ESPN unless there's a good game on.

There are very few people out there worth watching or reading anymore.

Only 2 I like any more are Mort and Schefter..And to my surprise Mangini is pretty good..the rest of ESPN is total crap..NFL network not much better.I like Faulk the rest ugh

Dunnie · 08-09-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sg3

simms appears to be having a better camp than mcelroy from all reports

and a quieter mouth

Went to a couple days of training camp ... I thought Sims had the best release of all of our guys. That being said ... There is more to the position than throwing the ball.

jetrider · 08-09-2012, 09:08 PM

I heard Tebow is playing 2 quarters.

Demosthenes9 · 08-09-2012, 09:11 PM

If McElroy was going to be the backup, then he'd be the one getting most the 2nd string snaps, instead of carrying a clipboard around and Tebow would be off honing his passing skills with some camp body and working on WC plays.

southparkcpa · 08-09-2012, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sg3

simms appears to be having a better camp than mcelroy from all reports

and a quieter mouth

True..but if Simms were any good, he would have played better college ball. McElroy has been a winner since high school and took Bama to the BCS championship. Mac also had a great pre season last year.

But... We will know in 3 weeks who is the 3.

JETFAN1 · 08-09-2012, 11:09 PM

Interesting King brought this up. I like Tebow as a backup for that exact reason. Let me preface that Tebow's effectiveness will diminish the longer he plays but can probably get by 2-3 games before defenses figure him out in the Jets offense. I mentioned this on here before, he's like a changeup. Defenses are going to get frustrated when they have to suddenly defend a different type of QB after they just game planned and played a traditional drop back QB.

Remember slash from the Steelers? He was much more effective as a back up than a starter...

EM31 · 08-09-2012, 11:39 PM

McElroy speaking out last year was actually a profile in courage IMO. He said what needed to be said and was later proved to be correct when LT said the same thing.

He also looked pretty good in limited action last preseason and I think Simms is a real long shot here.

ChrisChrusher#40 · 08-10-2012, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JETFAN1

Interesting King brought this up. I like Tebow as a backup for that exact reason. Let me preface that Tebow's effectiveness will diminish the longer he plays but can probably get by 2-3 games before defenses figure him out in the Jets offense. I mentioned this on here before, he's like a changeup. Defenses are going to get frustrated when they have to suddenly defend a different type of QB after they just game planned and played a traditional drop back QB.

Remember slash from the Steelers? He was much more effective as a back up than a starter...

My thinking too. Until he develops his ability to read a defense and deliver a sharp, well-thrown ball, he is an option/Wildcat type QB who will be utilized as a weapon, not as a full-time starter at this point in his career. If Sanchez went down, the other QBs on the roster probably would be better as a starter with continued use of Tebow in the option/wildcat role. That's where he is deadly. But not full-time.

jxc · 08-10-2012, 01:24 AM

All jokes aside, there's a very good chance that McElroy is the most accurate quarterback on the roster.

08-09-2012, 06:36 PM	#1
JStokes Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 20,126	Peter King: McElroy more of a back-up type QB than Tebow? Was on the Michael Kaye show this afternoon with LaGreca and Damien Woody, and he wasn't bashing Tebow in any respect--but when they asked him about the Jets and the whole Sanchez-Tebow thing, he said after going to their practices yesterday it appeared to him that--in his opinion--McElroy looks like more of the typical back-up type QB than Tebow. Said Tebow is going to do all his crazy (may have said whacky) stuff in the Wildcat and on special teams, but if Sanchez went down and you needed someone to come in and finish a game efficiently, he thought it more likely that McElroy would be the one they would use. And he wasn't suggesting that McElroy IS the back-up or that he's taking the back-up snaps, just his perception of how the Jet offense would work if Sanchez went down. Personlly, I'm not sure McElroy has the arm to play for long stretches in this league, but is he better equipped to play the traditional QB role with Tebow continuing to come in for his special packages? For instance, in the presesaon games, is Tebow going to take ALL the traditional 2nd string snaps or is he still going to be taking his WC/spread option plays and McElroy the traditional offense? _

08-09-2012, 06:52 PM	#2
BamaJets Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,777	really if Sanchez wasn't available and they needed to air it out for a bit, they might have to go to Mac ... or Simms. But adding them into the mix and getting practice reps? sure they would be limited, but they'd still be reps taken from Sanchez, who will already be losing some to Tebow. But if you are in pass mode, things kind of get hectic, plays get broken and you just kind of throw it around. so i guess you don't really need that much rapport with your WRs. hope it doesn't come to it!!!

08-09-2012, 06:56 PM	#3
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,369	simms appears to be having a better camp than mcelroy from all reports and a quieter mouth

08-09-2012, 07:01 PM	#4
simijet All League Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 4,184	While I agree McElroy might be the more effective QB should Sanchez go down, I really have a hard time believing Rex wouldn't go with Tebow in that situation.

08-09-2012, 07:16 PM	#6
Joe W. Namath Darrell Bevell for HC in 2014. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boynton Beach, FL Posts: 7,819	Someone needs to tell Peter King that fat, drunk and stupid is no way to through life.

08-09-2012, 07:35 PM	#8
JonEJet Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 11,370	Maybe he can put a good word in with Bellipuke.....McElroy probably will be looking for a job soon, and I hear Mallet is The SUCK!!

08-09-2012, 08:23 PM	#10
TheMikeIsHot All Pro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 7,043	I really can't read or watch NFL analysis anymore. It's all bad... written with an agenda or just flat out wrong, sometimes both. I refuse to watch ESPN unless there's a good game on. There are very few people out there worth watching or reading anymore.

08-09-2012, 08:27 PM	#11
jzelada121 We need more DL!!! All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,142	Peter should stick to backwood/small town sports reporting

08-09-2012, 09:08 PM	#14
jetrider Where are the Jets? Veteran Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,907	I heard Tebow is playing 2 quarters.

08-09-2012, 09:11 PM	#15
Demosthenes9 PimpAssedAvatar Thanks McGinley :) Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,291	If McElroy was going to be the backup, then he'd be the one getting most the 2nd string snaps, instead of carrying a clipboard around and Tebow would be off honing his passing skills with some camp body and working on WC plays.

08-09-2012, 11:09 PM	#17
JETFAN1 Bored Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,782	Interesting King brought this up. I like Tebow as a backup for that exact reason. Let me preface that Tebow's effectiveness will diminish the longer he plays but can probably get by 2-3 games before defenses figure him out in the Jets offense. I mentioned this on here before, he's like a changeup. Defenses are going to get frustrated when they have to suddenly defend a different type of QB after they just game planned and played a traditional drop back QB. Remember slash from the Steelers? He was much more effective as a back up than a starter...

08-09-2012, 11:39 PM	#18
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,148	McElroy speaking out last year was actually a profile in courage IMO. He said what needed to be said and was later proved to be correct when LT said the same thing. He also looked pretty good in limited action last preseason and I think Simms is a real long shot here.

08-10-2012, 01:24 AM	#20
jxc All League Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,990	All jokes aside, there's a very good chance that McElroy is the most accurate quarterback on the roster.