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JetSouth · 08-19-2012, 01:36 AM

This is NOT a start Austin Howard thread. He was getting bullrushed and beat by the Giants scrubs. We are screwed.

10PennyToColes87 · 08-19-2012, 01:39 AM

wat

JetSouth · 08-19-2012, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 10PennyToColes87

wat

Everybody is going to keep saying "start Austin Howard" over the course of the next week. The majority of Jets fans have this complex where the unknown is always better than the proven inadequate. Hunter sucks but Howard won't be any better.

We have not developed talent and we whiffed BADLY on Vlad. We are in trouble.

positive · 08-19-2012, 03:09 AM

Vlad played very well yesterday from the guard position. He's just not a tackle.

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 08-19-2012, 03:33 AM

Hunter gave up 4 sacks, you think he's the answer?

There is quite a difference between getting bull-rushed and letting the QB get pummeled.

That being said, I am not very comfortable with either of them. The front office needs to bring in another veteran O-Lineman capable of starting. Make a trade, whatever, but they need to do something.

Standing PAT on the O-line will kill this season before it even gets started.

I can't believe this is 2 pre-seasons in a row that I am wishing for the same thing.

FijiJet · 08-19-2012, 04:16 AM

Alarm bells are deafening right now. Hunter has been a collossal disappointment

chrisjets23 · 08-19-2012, 04:34 AM

Our FO needs to make a trade, even if it's a mid-round pick for someone decent. There HAS to be backups on other teams who are better than Hunter. This guy should not even be in the NFL he's that bad. Sure, we could just give Howard a chance, but I don't even feel comfortable with having Hunter as a backup. One injury and it'll be Wayne's world again.

ARodFLKeysJetsFan · 08-19-2012, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisjets23

Our FO needs to make a trade, even if it's a mid-round pick for someone decent. There HAS to be backups on other teams who are better than Hunter. This guy should not even be in the NFL he's that bad. Sure, we could just give Howard a chance, but I don't even feel comfortable with having Hunter as a backup. One injury and it'll be Wayne's world again.

Absolutely correct....Hunter HAS TO GO!!!

Gastineau99 · 08-19-2012, 08:16 AM

I agree. Can't just stand pay on this guy. They should have went after Winston, now they just need an average player, or even slightly below average, to replace Hunter. I have never seen a Tackle get consistently abused like Hunter has.

Iceman · 08-19-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JetSouth

Everybody is going to keep saying "start Austin Howard" over the course of the next week. The majority of Jets fans have this complex where the unknown is always better than the proven inadequate. Hunter sucks but Howard won't be any better.

We have not developed talent and we whiffed BADLY on Vlad. We are in trouble.

How do you know Howard won't be any better?

Kentucky Jet · 08-19-2012, 08:21 AM

Hunter has had a fair chance to improve. he hasn't. time too go! Howard needs to play with the ones before we push the panic button. If he fails as well, we must trade for a RT or pick one up somewhere! Next year we must draft OL talent. BRICK is not exactly imposing his will at LT either!

VERMONT JET · 08-19-2012, 08:31 AM

I know he didn't play great last year either but it could be time to call Kareem Mckenzie. Not saying he's the answer but we need to do something before Sanchez gets killed.

Kentucky Jet · 08-19-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VERMONT JET

I know he didn't play great last year either but it could be time to call Kareem Mckenzie. Not saying he's the answer but we need to do something before Sanchez gets killed.

Sanchez adds to his own troubles. The guy still holds the ball too long and can not sense trouble when the pocket is collapsing! I refuse to blame only the OL. Conner is no TRICH. KILLER-KELLER is inadequate as a blocker! Cumberland is a joke! BUT a great QB is supposed to elevate the play of those around him. Our guy does not do that!

rextilleon · 08-19-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by VERMONT JET

I know he didn't play great last year either but it could be time to call Kareem Mckenzie. Not saying he's the answer but we need to do something before Sanchez gets killed.

What about Winston Hill.

Scoop24 · 08-19-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet

Sanchez adds to his own troubles. The guy still holds the ball too long and can not sense trouble when the pocket is collapsing! I refuse to blame only the OL. Conner is no TRICH. KILLER-KELLER is inadequate as a blocker! Cumberland is a joke! BUT a great QB is supposed to elevate the play of those around him. Our guy does not do that!

It doesn't not matter how great your qb is if you hit the qb he will get rattled and they are hitting ours on regular basis. So if Brady and Manning can be rattled by hitting them what makes u think Sanchez who is not in the same league as them dudes won't struggle?

HoustonJET · 08-19-2012, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet

Sanchez adds to his own troubles. The guy still holds the ball too long and can not sense trouble when the pocket is collapsing! I refuse to blame only the OL.

Did you not see Sanchez shuffle in the pocket a few times only for the line to collapse around him... The problem is not Sanchez or tebow(at the moment), its the right side of the OL 1st and 2nd team...

We all agree that Hunter is terrible, beyond that actually... it was hard to watch dude get beat at the line repeatedly... The one play that sticks out to me is that failed 4 & 1 play... Instead of shifting to the left to pick up the DE he shoots forward, completely missing his blocking assignment... I noticed after that play Shonn ran to the left side of the line the remainder of half... With that being said I don't think Howard is the answer either, because he was beat on a few plays as well and he protects tebow blindside... If you allow blindside sacks no telling what he will do on the 1st team OL facing better talent...

augustiniak · 08-19-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HoustonJET

Did you not see Sanchez shuffle in the pocket a few times only for the line to collapse around him... The problem is not Sanchez or tebow(at the moment), its the right side of the OL 1st and 2nd team...

We all agree that Hunter is terrible, beyond that actually... it was hard to watch dude get beat at the line repeatedly... The one play that sticks out to me is that failed 4 & 1 play... Instead of shifting to the left to pick up the DE he shoots forward, completely missing his blocking assignment... I noticed after that play Shonn ran to the left side of the line the remainder of half... With that being said I don't think Howard is the answer either, because he was beat on a few plays as well and he protects tebow blindside... If you allow blindside sacks no telling what he will do on the 1st team OL facing better talent...

at this point the jets should start whichever RT can be a factor in the running game, since pass blocking doesn't seem to be possible.

Gibby · 08-19-2012, 11:21 AM

I would take Austin Powers at this point.

Beerfish · 08-19-2012, 11:22 AM

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I would take Austin Powers at this point.

I would take Tracy Austen.

augustiniak · 08-19-2012, 11:28 AM

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I would take Tracy Austen.

i'd rather have steve austin. maybe the bionic man could block jpp.

08-19-2012, 01:36 AM	#1
JetSouth Veteran Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 130	Start Austin Howard This is NOT a start Austin Howard thread. He was getting bullrushed and beat by the Giants scrubs. We are screwed.

08-19-2012, 03:33 AM	#5
ARodFLKeysJetsFan Jets GM John Idzik is handling business.... Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Currently Norfolk, VA.... Posts: 18,325	Hunter gave up 4 sacks, you think he's the answer? There is quite a difference between getting bull-rushed and letting the QB get pummeled. That being said, I am not very comfortable with either of them. The front office needs to bring in another veteran O-Lineman capable of starting. Make a trade, whatever, but they need to do something. Standing PAT on the O-line will kill this season before it even gets started. I can't believe this is 2 pre-seasons in a row that I am wishing for the same thing. Last edited by ARodFLKeysJetsFan; 08-19-2012 at 03:35 AM.

08-19-2012, 01:39 AM	#2
10PennyToColes87 Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2005 Location: SoFla Posts: 15,377	wat

08-19-2012, 03:09 AM	#4
positive Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 147	Vlad played very well yesterday from the guard position. He's just not a tackle.

08-19-2012, 04:16 AM	#6
FijiJet waiting for our pass rush thunderbolt All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,439	Alarm bells are deafening right now. Hunter has been a collossal disappointment

08-19-2012, 04:34 AM	#7
chrisjets23 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 723	Our FO needs to make a trade, even if it's a mid-round pick for someone decent. There HAS to be backups on other teams who are better than Hunter. This guy should not even be in the NFL he's that bad. Sure, we could just give Howard a chance, but I don't even feel comfortable with having Hunter as a backup. One injury and it'll be Wayne's world again.

08-19-2012, 08:16 AM	#9
Gastineau99 Section 135 All Pro Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,344	I agree. Can't just stand pay on this guy. They should have went after Winston, now they just need an average player, or even slightly below average, to replace Hunter. I have never seen a Tackle get consistently abused like Hunter has.

08-19-2012, 08:21 AM	#11
Kentucky Jet A NY JETS fan! Go Jets! Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ormond Beach, Florida Posts: 10,879	Hunter has had a fair chance to improve. he hasn't. time too go! Howard needs to play with the ones before we push the panic button. If he fails as well, we must trade for a RT or pick one up somewhere! Next year we must draft OL talent. BRICK is not exactly imposing his will at LT either!

08-19-2012, 08:31 AM	#12
VERMONT JET BY DEMONS BE DRIVEN !! Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: BURLINGTON, VERMONT Posts: 1,000	I know he didn't play great last year either but it could be time to call Kareem Mckenzie. Not saying he's the answer but we need to do something before Sanchez gets killed.

08-19-2012, 11:21 AM	#18
Gibby Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,993	I would take Austin Powers at this point.