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Jmat321 · 08-20-2012, 10:32 AM

This is going to be far worse than I had thought. We're not looking at 7-9. We're looking at a top 5 draft pick come next April. Cowher wants total control if he is to ever come back. If we axe Tanny & Rex, do we have a shot? He's a proven winner who'd have no problem kicking this team in the balls....

Ray Ray19 · 08-20-2012, 10:36 AM

So let's go after the guy who needed 4 years to get to his first Super bowl, and needed 13 years to win his first SB...

32green · 08-20-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmat321

This is going to be far worse than I had thought. We're not looking at 7-9. We're looking at a top 5 draft pick come next April. Cowher wants total control if he is to ever come back. If we axe Tanny & Rex, do we have a shot? He's a proven winner who'd have no problem kicking this team in the balls....

Can we play one regular season game first?

Can we?

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Jet Life · 08-20-2012, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmat321

This is going to be far worse than I had thought. We're not looking at 7-9. We're looking at a top 5 draft pick come next April. Cowher wants total control if he is to ever come back. If we axe Tanny & Rex, do we have a shot? He's a proven winner who'd have no problem kicking this team in the balls....

Top 5 draft pick?! Pump the breaks a bit and let them play a real game with everyone healthy first.

sg3 · 08-20-2012, 10:39 AM

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Can we play one regular season game first?

Can we?

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Ray Ray19 · 08-20-2012, 10:42 AM

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Can we play one regular season game first?

Can we?

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jetlifer · 08-20-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 32green

Can we play one regular season game first?

Can we?

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Thank you for some perspective

chirorob · 08-20-2012, 10:43 AM

Do the players play hard for Rex?

If that answer is yes, then you keep Rex. If The Jaw was here, do you really think the RT problem would be fixed? Let's learn something from the Steelers, it's called continuity. The players KNOW the coach isn't going anywhere, so they respect him more. In Pitt, that's what they had. Rex should not go anywhere, he has multiple times gotten this team to over acheive. Remember, Cowher didn't win until he had a SB quality QB on his roster, we don't have that yet. I still like Sanchez, but he needs some protection. 2 decent OG and an awful RT are not protection. That's a recipe for a beating.

Who are the best two QB's in the league? Manning and Brady. And what did we always say? "They don't like defensive guys around them, they don't like to be hit." Why would sanchez be any different? You have to protect him somewhat. It can't be a jailbreak every play. If you hit any QB 10 times in the first half of a game, he will be jittery in the second half. And that's on the talent level, not on the coach being unable to coach up the worst RT in the NFL.

southparkcpa · 08-20-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 32green

Can we play one regular season game first?

Can we?

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32green · 08-20-2012, 10:48 AM

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Bizarro world sg3

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SMC · 08-20-2012, 10:50 AM

Things are kinda bleak right now, but at least let Rex & Co. play out the season first.

DDNYjets · 08-20-2012, 10:50 AM

LOL. Cowher sucks.

For the sake of the question (even though it is silly) the only coach that is not currently coaching a team that I would take is John Gruden. IF Rex fails, which I don't think he will, the next coach must be an offensive minded coach.

LockeJET · 08-20-2012, 10:50 AM

I'd love Cowher the coach but not the GM. He's never been a GM. If we were to make a change let us please go after somoene that has done it before. I'm so sick of 1st time head coaches and 1st time GM's.

SO PASS!!!

drsamuel84 · 08-20-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chirorob

Do the players play hard for Rex?

If that answer is yes, then you keep Rex. If The Jaw was here, do you really think the RT problem would be fixed? Let's learn something from the Steelers, it's called continuity. The players KNOW the coach isn't going anywhere, so they respect him more. In Pitt, that's what they had. Rex should not go anywhere, he has multiple times gotten this team to over acheive. Remember, Cowher didn't win until he had a SB quality QB on his roster, we don't have that yet. I still like Sanchez, but he needs some protection. 2 decent OG and an awful RT are not protection. That's a recipe for a beating.

Who are the best two QB's in the league? Manning and Brady. And what did we always say? "They don't like defensive guys around them, they don't like to be hit." Why would sanchez be any different? You have to protect him somewhat. It can't be a jailbreak every play. If you hit any QB 10 times in the first half of a game, he will be jittery in the second half. And that's on the talent level, not on the coach being unable to coach up the worst RT in the NFL.

Don't disagree with most of what you said and I'm in no way saying that Rex should be fired and even thought about being fired at this point. But would a more established coach allow the Jets to go into the season with Hunter as the starting RT? I think Rex's biggest downfall is he believes in his coaching staff too much. I'm sure Sparano said he could fix Hunter but Rex as the HC should've put his foot down. That's where I see a more established coach making a difference.

Gibby · 08-20-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmat321

This is going to be far worse than I had thought. We're not looking at 7-9. We're looking at a top 5 draft pick come next April. Cowher wants total control if he is to ever come back. If we axe Tanny & Rex, do we have a shot? He's a proven winner who'd have no problem kicking this team in the balls....

MAJOR FAIL DUDE !!!!!!

FlagmanL11 · 08-20-2012, 11:06 AM

Dumb thread as we have not played a real game yet. Give the team a chance to execute the plays they are keeping under wraps... All they showed was a vanilla off.

chirorob · 08-20-2012, 11:24 AM

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Don't disagree with most of what you said and I'm in no way saying that Rex should be fired and even thought about being fired at this point. But would a more established coach allow the Jets to go into the season with Hunter as the starting RT? I think Rex's biggest downfall is he believes in his coaching staff too much. I'm sure Sparano said he could fix Hunter but Rex as the HC should've put his foot down. That's where I see a more established coach making a difference.

That falls on Tanny as much as Rex. At the end of the day, the GM should be making the personel decisions. Too many coaches think they can fix a player. You can only do so much with a player. A great coach can take a "B Grade" player and make him into an A- or even an A. But if you have a player who is an "F Grade", he can't be coached up to a "C". Especially a veteran guy. A rookie can learn alot and really improve. A veteran of 6 years, he usually is what he is unless he was in a bad system.

08-20-2012, 10:32 AM	#1
Jmat321 Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Lawn Guyland Posts: 126	Do We Have Any Chance of Landing Cowher in 2013?? This is going to be far worse than I had thought. We're not looking at 7-9. We're looking at a top 5 draft pick come next April. Cowher wants total control if he is to ever come back. If we axe Tanny & Rex, do we have a shot? He's a proven winner who'd have no problem kicking this team in the balls....

08-20-2012, 10:36 AM	#2
Ray Ray19 Not a SOJF Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,814	So let's go after the guy who needed 4 years to get to his first Super bowl, and needed 13 years to win his first SB...

08-20-2012, 10:43 AM	#8
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,803	Do the players play hard for Rex? If that answer is yes, then you keep Rex. If The Jaw was here, do you really think the RT problem would be fixed? Let's learn something from the Steelers, it's called continuity. The players KNOW the coach isn't going anywhere, so they respect him more. In Pitt, that's what they had. Rex should not go anywhere, he has multiple times gotten this team to over acheive. Remember, Cowher didn't win until he had a SB quality QB on his roster, we don't have that yet. I still like Sanchez, but he needs some protection. 2 decent OG and an awful RT are not protection. That's a recipe for a beating. Who are the best two QB's in the league? Manning and Brady. And what did we always say? "They don't like defensive guys around them, they don't like to be hit." Why would sanchez be any different? You have to protect him somewhat. It can't be a jailbreak every play. If you hit any QB 10 times in the first half of a game, he will be jittery in the second half. And that's on the talent level, not on the coach being unable to coach up the worst RT in the NFL.

08-20-2012, 10:50 AM	#11
SMC Day-to-day Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 22,032	Things are kinda bleak right now, but at least let Rex & Co. play out the season first.

08-20-2012, 10:50 AM	#12
DDNYjets Bye week buh bye Rex Hall Of Fame Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: New York Posts: 12,257	LOL. Cowher sucks. For the sake of the question (even though it is silly) the only coach that is not currently coaching a team that I would take is John Gruden. IF Rex fails, which I don't think he will, the next coach must be an offensive minded coach.

08-20-2012, 10:50 AM	#13
LockeJET pooping, but thinking of you! Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 15,957	I'd love Cowher the coach but not the GM. He's never been a GM. If we were to make a change let us please go after somoene that has done it before. I'm so sick of 1st time head coaches and 1st time GM's. SO PASS!!!

08-20-2012, 11:06 AM	#16
FlagmanL11 4 months until the first home tailgate!! Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Jersey Posts: 3,064	Dumb thread as we have not played a real game yet. Give the team a chance to execute the plays they are keeping under wraps... All they showed was a vanilla off.