Where do we go after this year? I am panicking - Page 3 - Jets Insider.com Forums

EM31 · 08-20-2012, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JETFAN1

If the Jets are in the top 3 draft slots they have to draft Berkley or listen to trades for multiple 1st round picks if he's there when picking. I say this assuming Sanchez gets seriously injured or just overall sucks this year for them to be picking in the top 3 slots.

I'm a Sanchez fan and seriously only see this happening if the former occurs.

Jets fans plans to move down in any draft and pick up a boatload of picks never actually seem to materialize. Weak draft, lack of a dance partner and so on and so forth.

Sigh... If that happens it will mean that it will have been tough to have to have looked up in the standings at both the Bills and the Dolphins in addition to the Pats.

But then again this could be the most talented Jets team in thirty years and/or the greatest Jets defense in history.

History is like thousands and thousands of years long

All time is even longer.

lageman4ever · 08-20-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerfish

People are panicking because it appears this years offense is little different than last years. Bad oline, especially RT. Check down passing. QB who is jittery pass rush or not. Passes being dropped when we get it right. Mediocre running game. No blocking TE's.

I've gotta agree with Beerfish. It's not like the Jets had a strong season last year and have looked bad only in 2 preseason games. It's that no substantial changes were made on offense AND fans are seeing the whole terrible 2011 season again this preseason: disaster RT, poor QB play, no great skill players, etc. It's the continuity of last year's bad play with no hope for change that has gotten people so (rightfully) depressed.

Lets hope Tannenbaum earns his salary for a change and brings a competent RT in here to shore up the OL (and the offense as a whole).

lageman4ever · 08-20-2012, 01:48 PM

What is the cap hit for cutting Sanchez ? I'd assume it's horrendous.

Is any of his huge salary guaranteed ?

ColonelForbin · 08-20-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Toooon

No, the mistake has been keeping Tanny for 2 regimes when the personnel is his responsibility. If we are rebuilding again, it has to be with a new GM. Chances are, he will pick a new coach anyway. If it's Bill Cowher (dream scenario) you get 2 for the price of 1.

If I recall, Cowher turned our asses down for Rex's job when Woody dissed him in favor of some whale watching trip, aand Cowher and others like Payton Manning don't care much for the non nonsensical way the Jets like to do business.

Bob Crable · 08-20-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lageman4ever

What is the cap hit for cutting Sanchez ?

$24,506,250

http://nyjetscap.com/marksanchez.html

lageman4ever · 08-20-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Crable

$24,506,250

http://nyjetscap.com/marksanchez.html

What a stupid contract !

I guess we're stuck with him until 2014.

GreenWave · 08-20-2012, 03:01 PM

Wow - some bleak stuff in here.

Hope the supporters of paying Revis see how this thread reflects the state of this team. Unless the Jets surprise us all and have a great year, rebuilding might be around the corner.

The only way the Jets can plug holes if they end up having to purge the roster is to turn our one superstar into several (hopefully) good players.

If the season ends with 6 wins or less, then putting Revis on the trade block HAS to be a consideration for the (possibly new) FO.

Untouchable · 08-20-2012, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lageman4ever

What a stupid contract !

I guess we're stuck with him until 2014.

Stupid doesn't even begin to describe it.

I used to be a big fan of Tannenbaum but he's made some god awful decisions over the past year or so.

southparkcpa · 08-20-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenWave

Wow - some bleak stuff in here.

Hope the supporters of paying Revis see how this thread reflects the state of this team. Unless the Jets surprise us all and have a great year, rebuilding might be around the corner.

The only way the Jets can plug holes if they end up having to purge the roster is to turn our one superstar into several (hopefully) good players.

If the season ends with 6 wins or less, then putting Revis on the trade block HAS to be a consideration for the (possibly new) FO.

Thats the TABU subject here. Revis threatening to hold us hostage while under contract... reality check is that we allowed it previously. BUT I heard that a team without Revis won a SB? Is that true?

lageman4ever · 08-20-2012, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Untouchable

Stupid doesn't even begin to describe it.

I used to be a big fan of Tannenbaum but he's made some god awful decisions over the past year or so.

I've seen the same thing. He used to make good football and cap-wise decisions in years past. But lately it's been really poor on both fronts.

JamesR · 08-20-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by srobjets

We have a few more seasons of sub par play and dreaming of glory. The big money tide up with many of these players is amazing. Many of these guys could not start on 99% of the nfl teams. Face the facts Tanny is not as good as we think. He attempted to win now and mortgaged this team future.

The big money is tied up with these players for 2013 :

1. David Harris- 13,000,000
2. Sanchez- 12,853,125
3. Holmes 12,500,000
4. Cromartie 10,750,000
5. Brick 10,716,666
6. Mangold 9,117,100
7. Revis 9,000,000
8. Pouha 6,166,666
9. Tebow 2,586,875
10. Wilson 2,010,400
11. Coples 2,000,635
12. Wilkerson 1,875,000
13. Hill 1,070,988

Everyone else is <$1m.

Tell me which of these couldn't start on 99% of NFL teams?

JetSouth · 08-20-2012, 03:14 PM

Cutting Sanchez after this year will be 17,153,125 in dead money. He's with us through next year

Warfish · 08-20-2012, 03:15 PM

Aug. 20th, 2012.

1. Jets Fans abandoning all hope for season, check.

2. Jets Fans pining for firing coach, check.

3. Jets Fans discussing Draft 2013, check.

4. Jets Fans calling for all QB's to be cut, check.

Yep, SOJF never changes.

Is it really asking too much to see a game that counts before we all toss in the towel? Isn't the purpose of preseason evaluation and correction and roster management?

I agree, we havn't looked impressive. But does that mean, without fail, that we won't look impressive all season long, from opening day to the end of the 16th game of a 15 loss season?

Does hysteria have to be so ingrained, so early?

JetSouth · 08-20-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesR

The big money is tied up with these players for 2013 :

1. David Harris- 13,000,000
2. Sanchez- 12,853,125
3. Holmes 12,500,000
4. Cromartie 10,750,000
5. Brick 10,716,666
6. Mangold 9,117,100
7. Revis 9,000,000
8. Pouha 6,166,666
9. Tebow 2,586,875
10. Wilson 2,010,400
11. Coples 2,000,635
12. Wilkerson 1,875,000
13. Hill 1,070,988

Everyone else is <$1m.

Tell me which of these couldn't start on 99% of NFL teams?

Only one's worth close to or worth their money are Ferguson, Mangold, Pouha (if healthy), Revis, Wilkerson, Coples, Wilson.

JetSouth · 08-20-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

Aug. 20th, 2012.

1. Jets Fans abandoning all hope for season, check.

2. Jets Fans pining for firing coach, check.

3. Jets Fans discussing Draft 2013, check.

Yep, SOJF never changes.

Is it really asking too much to see a game that counts before we all toss in the towel? Isn't the purpose of preseason evaluation and correction and roster management?

I agree, we havn't looked impressive. But does that mean, without fail, that we won't look impressive all season long, from opening day to the end of the 16th game of a 15 loss season?

Does hysteria have to be so ingrained, so early?

This isn't the Heat. We don't have LBJ, Wade and Bosh and it's just a matter of waiting until they click. The talent is not there and we are a Mangold injury away from possibly having one of the worst offenses ever.

Warfish · 08-20-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JetSouth

This isn't the Heat. We don't have LBJ, Wade and Bosh and it's just a matter of waiting until they click. The talent is not there and we are a Mangold injury away from possibly having one of the worst offenses ever.

So I keep hearing.

Before we've played a single snap that counts.

I know I could predict, with startling accuracy, the entire 2012 Baseball Season based on the first 2 innings of the Washington Nats first Spring Training game too....

lageman4ever · 08-20-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesR

The big money is tied up with these players for 2013 :

1. David Harris- 13,000,000
2. Sanchez- 12,853,125
3. Holmes 12,500,000
4. Cromartie 10,750,000
5. Brick 10,716,666
6. Mangold 9,117,100
7. Revis 9,000,000
8. Pouha 6,166,666
9. Tebow 2,586,875
10. Wilson 2,010,400
11. Coples 2,000,635
12. Wilkerson 1,875,000
13. Hill 1,070,988

Everyone else is <$1m.

Tell me which of these couldn't start on 99% of NFL teams?

Tebow definitely

Sanchez could maybe beat out 5 or 6 starting QB on existing rosters.

JetSouth · 08-20-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

So I keep hearing.

Before we've played a single snap that counts.

I know I could predict, with startling accuracy, the entire 2012 Baseball Season based on the first 2 innings of the Washington Nats first Spring Training game too....

Apples and oranges my friend lol.

Warfish · 08-20-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JetSouth

Apples and oranges my friend lol.

Of course it is.

Really.

Anyway, I prefer Bananas.

JetSouth · 08-20-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Warfish

Of course it is.

Really.

Anyway, I prefer Bananas.

08-20-2012, 03:15 PM	#53
Warfish JetsInsider.com Legend Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 35,000	Aug. 20th, 2012. 1. Jets Fans abandoning all hope for season, check. 2. Jets Fans pining for firing coach, check. 3. Jets Fans discussing Draft 2013, check. 4. Jets Fans calling for all QB's to be cut, check. Yep, SOJF never changes. Is it really asking too much to see a game that counts before we all toss in the towel? Isn't the purpose of preseason evaluation and correction and roster management? I agree, we havn't looked impressive. But does that mean, without fail, that we won't look impressive all season long, from opening day to the end of the 16th game of a 15 loss season? Does hysteria have to be so ingrained, so early? Last edited by Warfish; 08-20-2012 at 03:18 PM.

08-20-2012, 01:48 PM	#43
lageman4ever Hall Of Fame Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,153	What is the cap hit for cutting Sanchez ? I'd assume it's horrendous. Is any of his huge salary guaranteed ?

08-20-2012, 03:01 PM	#47
GreenWave Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,468	Wow - some bleak stuff in here. Hope the supporters of paying Revis see how this thread reflects the state of this team. Unless the Jets surprise us all and have a great year, rebuilding might be around the corner. The only way the Jets can plug holes if they end up having to purge the roster is to turn our one superstar into several (hopefully) good players. If the season ends with 6 wins or less, then putting Revis on the trade block HAS to be a consideration for the (possibly new) FO.

08-20-2012, 03:14 PM	#52
JetSouth Veteran Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 130	Cutting Sanchez after this year will be 17,153,125 in dead money. He's with us through next year