Ten shot, 2 dead near New York's Empire State Building

[LockeJET]

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/24...tate-building/


A gunman believed to be responsible in the shooting of at least five people in front of the Empire State Building in New York was shot and killed by police, New York police said.

Authorities converged on the building around 9 a.m. after reports of gunfire.

A witness told CNN's Rose Arce that the gunman ran after and shot a man in the head. An unarmed guard chased the gunman away, the witness told Arce.

[RaoulDuke]

Originally Posted by LockeJET

A witness told CNN's Rose Arce .

Must have been fun for her growing up.

[freestater]

nah... couldn't be. there's no guns in NYC. They have gun control there.

[Dimitri_0515]

This shlt has to stop.

[Timmy®]

This guy should have gone on a rampage in Norway. That crazy dude that shot up a kids summer camp got 21 years with a minimum of ten. And I thought Vermont was run by suckers.

[crasherino]

Originally Posted by freestater

nah... couldn't be. there's no guns in NYC. They have gun control there.

Its too bad you couldn't have been there to stop it. After you put your joint down, you could have picked off the bad guys with your .38.

Why don't we save the snide political comments for the proper forum, as opposed to in a thread about people being killed?

[jetstream23]

I heard he was looking for Lance Armstrong.

[loluchka80]

Originally Posted by Timmy®

This guy should have gone on a rampage in Norway. That crazy dude that shot up a kids summer camp got 21 years with a minimum of ten. And I thought Vermont was run by suckers.

i couldn't believe it when i read this guy who killed 77 got 10-21 years. but then i read that in norway when your sentence is up they review your status and can just keep adding on to your sentence if they feel you are still a threat. so, i hope this guy never is released.

[Warfish]

In other news:

19 People Shot in Overnight Shootings Across Chicago

By Peter Nickeas

Chicago Tribune reporter

4:06 a.m. CDT, August 24, 2012
Nineteen people were shot across the South and West sides from Thursday evening through early Friday morning -- 13 of them wounded over a 30-minute period, authorities say.

In Chicago, they call this a normal Thursday.

[Apache 51]

People have to start treating people better.

[PlumberKhan]

Originally Posted by Warfish

In other news:



In Chicago, they call this a normal Thursday.

That's insightful. Danke.

[Brooklyn Jet]

If we all attempt to shape and conduct ourselves in a productive and a courtious way towards our fellow man, every day, we create our own reality
as heaven on Earth....

[DDNYjets]

Ten shot, 2 dead near New York's Empire State Building

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...87N0M220120824

One of the dead was the shooter, the source said, adding there was no apparent link to terrorism.

A white tarp covered what was believed to be a body in front of the entrance to the office building but police declined to confirm if it was the shooter.

A police source said the assailant, who worked nearby, was believed to be a disgruntled employee who fired at a person against whom he had a grievance. The nature of the grievance was not known.

"I heard the gunshots. It was like pop, pop, pop. It was definitely in a bunch," said Dahlia Anister, 33, who works at an office near the 102-story Empire State Building.

The shooting started shortly after 9 a.m. on the busy sidewalk on Fifth Avenue outside the Midtown Manhattan building.

It came at the height of the tourist season outside one of New York City's most popular attractions. Police cordoned off the area around the building, one of the most recognizable in the world.

The Empire State Building is two blocks from Pennsylvania Station and eight blocks from Grand Central Terminal, two of New York City's main transportation hubs.

Mail courier James Bolden, 31, said he saw a "guy laying on the (sidewalk), bleeding from the neck and barely breathing."

"Everybody was crowded around him taking pictures and video, and security guys were yelling everybody to get back, and give him space. He was barely breathing," Bolden said.

One witness said she saw a woman who was shot in the foot and another woman being taken away in an ambulance.

"I was walking down 33rd (Street) and there's a dead guy. I just saw pools of blood. He was laying down and the was blood pooling (around him)," Justin Kellis, 35, who works nearby.

The United States has had two other mass shooting cases this summer. On July 20, a gunman opened fire at a midnight screening of the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises" in Aurora, Colorado, killing 12 people and wounding 58.

On August 5, a gunman killed six people and critically wounded three at a Sikh temple outside Milwaukee before police shot him dead in an attack authorities treated as an act of domestic terrorism.

This was the second high-profile shooting incident in two weeks in New York's tourist-heavy midtown Manhattan. On August 12 New York City police shot and killed a knife-wielding suspect as he sought to evade them through Saturday afternoon traffic and pedestrians in Times Square.

The Empire State Building was the world's tallest building for 40 years from its completion in 1931 until construction of the World Trade Center. Following the September 11, 2001, attacks, it was again the tallest building in the city, though was recently surpassed by a new tower under construction at the World Trade Center.

[freestater]

Originally Posted by crasherino

Its too bad you couldn't have been there to stop it. After you put your joint down, you could have picked off the bad guys with your .38.

Why don't we save the snide political comments for the proper forum, as opposed to in a thread about people being killed?

got it. I'll stop.

unlike threads that go on for pages about ZOMG WE GOT TO BAN ALL GUNS!!!!!

of course, no bats an eye to that.

[John_0515]

Originally Posted by Dimitri_0515

This shlt has to stop.

It won't. These people are mentally disturbed.

Expect more. I hope I'm wrong, but I believe this is just the beginning.

[crasherino]

Originally Posted by freestater

got it. I'll stop.

unlike threads that go on for pages about ZOMG WE GOT TO BAN ALL GUNS!!!!!

of course, no bats an eye to that.

to be fair, I usually try to stop those too. but if I jumped the gun (which I perhaps did), I apologize.

If I can throw you back some sh!t, I should probably refrain from the lecture.


So you get one more....

[freestater]

Originally Posted by crasherino

to be fair, I usually try to stop those too. but if I jumped the gun (which I perhaps did), I apologize.

If I can throw you back some sh!t, I should probably refrain from the lecture.


So you get one more....

fair enough. I'll hold my peace.

for the record though, my .38 is to save my own ass, not be Mr. Superhero.

I actually refer to it as "my five extra chances".

[Warfish]

Originally Posted by PlumberKhan

That's insightful. Danke.

Bitte.

I aim to please.

Or troll.

Either way.

[CraigFL]

Originally Posted by crasherino

to be fair, I usually try to stop those too. but if I jumped the gun (which I perhaps did), I apologize.

If I can throw you back some sh!t, I should probably refrain from the lecture.


So you get one more....

I'm not sure of the rules regarding this, so for future reference how is this handled?
1) wait for the (inevitable in most cases) gun control diatribe to post.
2) Refrain from pro 2nd amendment views all together.
3) start another thread using this situation as the basis for opening the discussions.
4) Any statement is fine if not rude, snide or condescending.
I'm not trying to be a pain, but I often have gut reactions such as this, and I don't want to get in trouble.

[Warfish]

Originally Posted by CraigFL

I'm not sure of the rules regarding this, so for future reference how is this handled?
1) wait for the (inevitable in most cases) gun control diatribe to post.
2) Refrain from pro 2nd amendment views all together.
3) start another thread using this situation as the basis for opening the discussions.
4) Any statement is fine if not rude, snide or condescending.
I'm not trying to be a pain, but I often have gut reactions such as this, and I don't want to get in trouble.

Honestly, these thread don't belong in the Hamper. There is simply noc hance they would remain apolitical for long.

They should be created in Poli-Sci IMO.