Darrelle Revis: Not Enough Done to Support Mark Sanchez

[sec.101row23]

Originally Posted by PatsFanTX

Thanks, I didn't know the details of the extension.

So after 2013, the Jets would not be on the hook for a large cap hit?

Zero cap hit.

[JStokes]

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

For a guy who supposedly follows football and does draft "analysis", your understanding of how rookie salaries, especially those in top 5 picks, work. You have been complaining how much money Mark makes for 2 years now, and when confronted with the fact that his salary was based on his draft slot and position he plays, you have nothing to say.

LOL, he sounds like Maganus.

Yet, he'll still defend the picks and massive $$ paid to Robertson and Gholston.

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[sec.101row23]

Originally Posted by JStokes

LOL, he sounds like Maganus.

Yet, he'll still defend the picks and massive $$ paid to Robertson and Gholston.

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He makes it seem like he was a 7th round draft pick and the Jets gave him all that money for no reason.

[JStokes]

Originally Posted by sec.101row23

He makes it seem like he was a 7th round draft pick and the Jets gave him all that money for no reason.

It's like he's purposefully being naive.

Mr. Draft-Know-It-All understands EXACTLY how slotting works--both pre and post Rookie cap--he just likes sh*tting on Sanchez.


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[Jordy]

Originally Posted by JStokes

It's like he's purposefully being naive.

Mr. Draft-Know-It-All understands EXACTLY how slotting works--both pre and post Rookie cap--he just likes sh*tting on Sanchez.


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A Dirty Sanchez?

[bitonti]

Originally Posted by JStokes

It's like he's purposefully being naive.

Mr. Draft-Know-It-All understands EXACTLY how slotting works--both pre and post Rookie cap--he just likes sh*tting on Sanchez.

it's easier to attack me than it is to defend Mark Sanchez.

i don't care if he got the money because of slotting. when is he gonna EARN it?

this is not a 10 million dollar player. more like a 2 dollar player.

[sdJETSetter]

Originally Posted by bitonti

it's easier to attack me than it is to defend Mark Sanchez.

i don't care if he got the money because of slotting. when is he gonna EARN it?

this is not a 10 million dollar player. more like a 2 dollar player.

Its impossible to state you dont think he is good without getting attacked, and labeled at the least a sojf.

[kennedy fried Toon]

Originally Posted by sdJETSetter

Its impossible to state you dont think he is good without getting attacked, and labeled at the least a sojf.

Exactly. And with all this cap talk people forget that other players amongst the core are making big time dollars this year. Unfortunately the offense is going to have to make due with the players on the roster as we cant go out and spend to bring in big time FA's every year.

The FO is hoping that Sanchez takes the next steps as am I. Tebow is an insurance policy to fill the seats in case things go south this season IMHO.

[patman]

Originally Posted by kennedy fried Toon

Revisionist history. No one was saying those things about Holmes when they signed him to that big deal.

Bit's point is a valid one. Sure the Jets offense isnt full of world beaters but no offense in the NFL is full of elite talent. Sanchez NEEDS to elevate his game this season to make up for the "lack" of talent on the offensive side of the ball. To date, he has been paid to do that. Time for him to man up and show us he is a legitimate top 10 QB in this league. If he cannot do that its high time to start searching for another QB who can.

Yes they were. As a matter of fact a good portion of the fanbase wanted Braylon over Holmes. It was only a little over a year ago, and for a month 25% of the posts concerned it.

[sec.101row23]

Originally Posted by bitonti

it's easier to attack me than it is to defend Mark Sanchez.

i don't care if he got the money because of slotting. when is he gonna EARN it?

this is not a 10 million dollar player. more like a 2 dollar player.

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What an ignorant statement. You complain for years about the money as if the Jets had a choice as to how much they were going to pay him. Funny, we didnt see any of your complaints when he signed the contract. Yet you go on and on about the money. You can say he hasnt progressed as you would have liked, or he continues to make the same mistakes, but to bring up the money is a moot point. The money was the money based on where they drafted him.

[patman]

Sanchez earned every dollar of his contract. The reason he is getting paid more than Stafford is that Tanny structured the contract based on team incentives, the team made the playoffs 2 years in a row and it kicked in all the incentives.
Sanchez took a chance with a little less guarantee for a bigger return on the high side. he won.

[kennedy fried Toon]

Originally Posted by patman

Yes they were. As a matter of fact a good portion of the fanbase wanted Braylon over Holmes. It was only a little over a year ago, and for a month 25% of the posts concerned it.

Did they? The fans also didnt want Tebow here but that doesnt change managements philosophy. There were discussions internally over who should be brought back and I would like to think that Sanchez was involved. Holmes is a good receiver who brings a lot to the table skill wise. It's Sanchezs responsibilty to get him the ball.

[kennedy fried Toon]

Originally Posted by patman

Sanchez earned every dollar of his contract. The reason he is getting paid more than Stafford is that Tanny structured the contract based on team incentives, the team made the playoffs 2 years in a row and it kicked in all the incentives.
Sanchez took a chance with a little less guarantee for a bigger return on the high side. he won.

He did, did he? With a #1 running game and a top flight defense. He still has the top flight defense but not a #1 running game. Sanchez needed to play up to his contract last year and failed to do so. I have my fingers crossed that he will, just not buying into the excuses being made in regards to the talent around him.

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by sdJETSetter

Its impossible to state you dont think he is good without getting attacked, and labeled at the least a sojf.

It's not officlial until Ray Ray, sg3 and Kentucky Jet call it.

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by bitonti

it's easier to attack me than it is to defend Mark Sanchez.

i don't care if he got the money because of slotting. when is he gonna EARN it?

this is not a 10 million dollar player. more like a 2 dollar player.

What about the performances of guys like Bart Scott and Santonio Holmes?

Scott was brought in because Rex HAD to have him. He was going to be the Jets version of Ray Lewis. Instead we now realize that Ray Lewis MADE him and he's marginal without Ray Lewis.

Have they earned their big salaries? Salaries which, by the way, weren't slotted and were negotiated by Tannenbaum.

[Funaz]

Originally Posted by Jordy

What about the performances of guys like Bart Scott and Santonio Holmes?

Scott was brought in because Rex HAD to have him. He was going to be the Jets version of Ray Lewis. Instead we now realize that Ray Lewis MADE him and he's marginal without Ray Lewis.

Have they earned their big salaries? Salaries which, by the way, weren't slotted and were negotiated by Tannenbaum.

+1000. These were decisions that they had a choice in. They didn't have to pay Holmes like a top 5 WR in the league yet they did. His production is more of a 40-50 type player.

Scott had a few good years for us but we paid him like a top flight LB, he's not. These are the types of salaries you can have a problem with.

A rookie QB that got his slotted salary a few years before the wage scale was implemented is nothing something you should complain about. You can attack Mark Sanchez's play on the field, but constantly spewing he gets paid too much is asinine and its getting really old.

[bitonti]

Originally Posted by Jordy

What about the performances of guys like Bart Scott and Santonio Holmes?

this is the "two wrongs don't make a right" defense. I say Sanchez isn't good you say Bart Scott isn't good. WE might both be right.

Look at that video clip again. Protection was great. Jets down by 6 points even tho Hunter gave up 3 or 4 sacks to that point. Mark stares down his target, makes a bad mistake and it's basically game over.

There's no problem with this team Mark Sanchez can't fix. And he doesn't need to be surrounded by All-Pro's to make a decent and quick decision.

[bitonti]

Originally Posted by Funaz

+1000. These were decisions that they had a choice in.

the Jets chose to draft Mark Sanchez, did they not?

[Funaz]

Originally Posted by bitonti

the Jets chose to draft Mark Sanchez, did they not?

Attack Sanchez's play all you want. There is a lot to attack. Getting pissed off about his salary is not something we need to hear in EVERY SINGLE THREAD YOU POST IN.

[Jordy]

Originally Posted by bitonti

this is the "two wrongs don't make a right" defense. I say Sanchez isn't good you say Bart Scott isn't good. WE might both be right.

This isn't about two wrongs making a right.

This is about you constantly harping on Sanchez' salary, which was slotted, and ignoring the performances of other players who are being grossly overpayed, based on their play, with contracts that were negotiated by the same GM who drafted Sanchez.