Jets waiving-injured TE Josh Baker

[mrcoops]

Originally Posted by lageman4ever

So if a player had a 3M contract base salary he'd get the whole thing ? I thought maybe they'd just be paid the vet minimum and give him access to the club doctors & training staff.

How common are split contracts ?

Yup, I think they usually get their full base on IR unless a reduction is written into their contract. Split contracts not too common - usually for higher salaried players with an injury history, to lessen financial risk to the club. I doubt Baker has a split contract.

[sg3]

Too bad for Baker

Hopefully he gets another chance next summer

[DDNYjets]

Originally Posted by sg3

Too bad for Baker

Hopefully he gets another chance next summer

Welcome back.

[Dirtstar]

Originally Posted by mrcoops

Procedural move. You can't put a non-vested player with fewer than 4 years experience on IR in preseason without passing him through waivers first. Hopefully, he clears waivers and reverts to IR for the year to rehab while getting paid.

Sucks for him, he was looking good late last year and so far this preseason.

thanks for clearing that up, i didn't really know what "he'll revert to IR" meant.

[sg3]

Sorry posted in wrong thread and deleted

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[ozu]

His agent put out that he's heading for Jets IR once he clears waivers, assuming he does. Tough break but he'll be back in TC next year.

[C Mart]

Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet

what is wrong with EPPS? Lloyd?

KJ, What has Lloyd done? Epps, by default, last night got a long look..He had a couple of catches and a dropped pass.

[Dirtstar]

Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet

what is wrong with EPPS? Lloyd?

is this a rhetorical question?

[C Mart]

Jake Steinberg ‏@Steiny31
Here's the deal with Josh Baker. He was not cut. He was waived-injured. That means if nobody claims him he goes on the #Jets IR.

[SCITSCAT]

Originally Posted by RazorJet

He has busted his butt for us for the last two years. Sad how the nfl machine REALLY works.
Good luck Josh and I hope you ha e a quick recovery.

true, Get healthy quick!

[IM3]

Originally Posted by C Mart

Jake Steinberg ‏@Steiny31
Here's the deal with Josh Baker. He was not cut. He was waived-injured. That means if nobody claims him he goes on the #Jets IR.

Didn't the Giants try doing that with Ballard and then the Pats* claimed him?

[LockeJET]

Originally Posted by IM3

Didn't the Giants try doing that with Ballard and then the Pats* claimed him?

Yes

[C Mart]

Brian Costello ‏@BrianCoz
MRI exam confirmed Jets fears on Baker - torn ACL in right knee

[tfine350z]

That panther put an unnecessary hit on him...we should've tried to take his knees out after that...

[Kentucky Jet]

Originally Posted by C Mart

KJ, What has Lloyd done? Epps, by default, last night got a long look..He had a couple of catches and a dropped pass.

He will get to show what he has Thursday night. Epps did not look too bad at all.

[Kentucky Jet]

Originally Posted by Dirtstar

is this a rhetorical question?

If you'd like to talk football , no problem. If you want to be a bb go away!

[Dirtstar]

Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet

If you'd like to talk football , no problem. If you want to be a bb go away!

OK, let's talk football.

who are Epps and Lloyd and what have they done to generate any form of optimism that one of them could be the answer to our TE problems?

[JetsfanfromtheBURGH]

Originally Posted by Dirtstar

OK, let's talk football.

who are Epps and Lloyd and what have they done to generate any form of optimism that one of them could be the answer to our TE problems?

I thought epps looked lost last night on a few plays. Didn't see much from Lloyd either.

[Jason423]

Originally Posted by eaglenj

Wow, does he get any money from an injury settlement? What a complete and utter shame for him.

The way the process works is that the player is waived and then he reverts to IR. The reason for this is because if you put the player direct on IR he counts towards your roster limit and if he clears waivers he does not. This is why the Giants waived Ballard never thinking a team would pick him up and its why New England wont put him on IR until the season begins. Once the year begins all these non-vested guys can go straight to IR without issue.

Players like Baker all have split salaries. He will earn $288K of his $465K base while on IR. Typically all low draft picks (I think rounds 3 thru 7) all carry a split at some point. Definitely all UDFAs do. There are different characteristics of the split that typically have to do with where drafted, but its common.

An injury settlement is paid out based on the full salary for games expected to be missed. So if a player is going to be out for 16 games it would be very rare for the team to have an injury settlement, especially if the player has a split since (as far as I know) the settlement is based on regular salary.

While it stinks for someone like Baker who was probably going to make the team for others it can actually be a blessing in disguise. It maintains a players position on the roster and they can show the team how hard they are working on rehab, learning in team meetings, and doing other things around the facility. Danny Woodhead might not be in the NFL today if he didnt land on IR a few years back. It kept him on the team and made them take notice enough to get him on the PS the next year and a contract the year thereafter.

[batman10023]

Originally Posted by tfine350z

That panther put an unnecessary hit on him...we should've tried to take his knees out after that...

cheap shot by a trash talking rookie.